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Re: AL DCNR Survey
[Re: Tru-Talker]
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04/24/15 02:59 AM
04/24/15 02:59 AM
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Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 26,219 Locust Fork, Alabama
BC
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 26,219
Locust Fork, Alabama
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Yup... I got it an email this morning... Me too.
"Some men are mere hunters; others are turkey hunters."
-- Archibald Rutledge
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Re: AL DCNR Survey
[Re: Solo]
#1336247
04/24/15 03:09 AM
04/24/15 03:09 AM
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Joined: May 2009
Posts: 2,836 Hayden, Alabama
HHSyelper
10 point
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10 point
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 2,836
Hayden, Alabama
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I have been filling it out all year, but can't put in any harvest. My computer will not show the last couple of categories on the screen.
To God Be The Glory!
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Re: AL DCNR Survey
[Re: Solo]
#1336248
04/24/15 03:10 AM
04/24/15 03:10 AM
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Joined: May 2009
Posts: 2,836 Hayden, Alabama
HHSyelper
10 point
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10 point
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 2,836
Hayden, Alabama
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I have been filling it out all year, but can't put in any harvest. My computer will not show the last couple of categories on the screen.
To God Be The Glory!
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Re: AL DCNR Survey
[Re: Solo]
#1336265
04/24/15 03:37 AM
04/24/15 03:37 AM
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Joined: May 2010
Posts: 6,074 Cullman
CKyleC
(Can't Keep It Up...)
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(Can't Keep It Up...)
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 6,074
Cullman
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I just completed the survey. I'm interested in hearing everyone's responses. I haven't been turkey hunting for 10 years so I don't know if things are better or worse.
I know on our property there are more turkeys than when we bought it five years ago. I've really tried hard to improve the holding capacity for turkeys. I really don't know if there are more than there were five years ago or if we've just drawn them in.
This is south Cullman co. where there aren't a lot of turkeys to start with.
"In Alabama, we prefer to kill small bucks on big properties"-Turkey247
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Re: AL DCNR Survey
[Re: Solo]
#1336322
04/24/15 04:46 AM
04/24/15 04:46 AM
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Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 5,059 Covington County
Squeaky
12 point
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12 point
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 5,059
Covington County
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I got mine as well. Filled it out with some additional comments at the end. The state needs to address a lot more issues before adjusting a unenforceable bag limit. It's the least of the issues in my opinion.
"Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes to us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday."
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Re: AL DCNR Survey
[Re: arKic]
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04/24/15 05:20 AM
04/24/15 05:20 AM
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Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 12,409 Sylacauga, AL
poorcountrypreacher
Booner
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Booner
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 12,409
Sylacauga, AL
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These statistic are from the turkey's reported on the game check system... Granted, this is not a requirement so I know the number is skewed, but I guarantee it will have a direct reflection to determining bag limits. You may will be right; our generous limit is not politically correct with the women that run the nwtf, and I think they are putting pressure on our state people. But of course, the voluntary game check system is less than worthless from a scientific view of measuring the harvest. The hunter survey, which is science-based, has shown no decline in harvest numbers. I'm doubting that science wins on this one, but maybe I'm wrong. One good sign was that they set this past season to start on the 14th because the 15th was a Sunday. In past years, they have started the season on Monday in this situation. That extra weekend probably killed at least 5000 turkeys. Doesn't seem they would have done that if an immediate cut in the limit was about to happen.
All the labor of man is for his mouth, and yet the appetite is not filled.
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Re: AL DCNR Survey
[Re: Solo]
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04/24/15 05:51 AM
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Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 5,703 Lincoln, Alabama
blumsden
12 point
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12 point
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 5,703
Lincoln, Alabama
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Got the e-mail today and filled it out. Not sure what good it will do, cause just like with deer hunting, sitings are a poor indicator of populations. They didn't even ask how many turkeys i had harvested, but i told them anyway in the comments section.
Last edited by blumsden; 04/24/15 05:52 AM.
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Re: AL DCNR Survey
[Re: Solo]
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04/24/15 01:16 PM
04/24/15 01:16 PM
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Matt Brock
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Matt Brock
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I can tell you folks with very much certainty, since I'm on the turkey committee, that one or two seasons worth of hunter data collection is NOT going to result in a reduced bag limit. There are multiple scenarios being looked at including different bag limits and season structures that are all possibilities. It's not very likely any major changes to anything are expected in the very near future. We are conducting large scale radio telemetry and gps studies statewide to help us understand the role hunter mortality plays on a population level. This study will last a decade. So don't get your panties in a wad and start the government conspiracy stuff prematurely.
Keep in mind. Every one on the turkey committee is deeply passionate about what is best for the resource, because we like to smoke turkeys in the face just as much as y'all do. Balancing hunter expectations, satisfaction, and sound biology is not as easy as y'all try to make it.
Last edited by Matt Brock; 04/24/15 01:28 PM.
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Re: AL DCNR Survey
[Re: Solo]
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04/24/15 01:19 PM
04/24/15 01:19 PM
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Matt Brock
Unregistered
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Matt Brock
Unregistered
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Also, this years data is not representative of a normal or average year. Turkeys are nuts this season. Gobbling is way down. Observations are way down. Harvest is way down. It is not due to predators. Something that I'm not going to even try to explain has caused a tremendous change in turkey habits and behavior, and we know the data we collect is not going to be what we would see on average.
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Re: AL DCNR Survey
[Re: Solo]
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04/24/15 01:19 PM
04/24/15 01:19 PM
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Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 10,708 Past Ol’ man Finley’s plac...
Southwood7
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Booner
Joined: Nov 2010
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Thanks for getting us up to speed matt. Please continue to keep us informed. In your opinion why have many hunters experienced a "down" year this year?
The Spirit of God has made me; the breath of the Almighty gives me life. Job 33:4
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