There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games.

Ernest Hemingway

Depends. Hunting in alabama = NO, elk hunting at 12000' = yes

And to those that don't think golfers are athletes I disagree completely. When I playing in college, we practiced 7 days a week, which included 3-5 18 hole rounds while carrying a golf bag and walking up to 7 miles per day. On top of that I hit up to a 1000 range balls per day.

Now at 36 I have 4 herniated disc because of it.

Not athletes IMO,I heard the finebaum caller and agreed with him on every aspect,some peoples jobs are way harder than driving a car for a few hours,that doesn't make a hard worker an athlete,it takes balls, mental focus and stamina but not much athletic ability to drive a car

Considering it takes hours and hours of physical training to do it, yes. Some NASCAR drivers workout really hard, some don't at all. Nobody shows up and places or wins a powerlifting meet without putting in hours of physical training. To me, the physical preparation is what sets athletes apart from competitors. If you can show up to an event, competition, game, match without preparing yourself physically then you're not an athlete.

Which brings me back to my statement. If you don't think archers are athletes, go out and give it a try. To be competitive and stay competitive , it take hours and hours of training, both mentally and physically. Since my treestand accident, I've had to give it up because I can't hold out physically to train like I used to. Which in turn, caused my performance to suffer.

You can also get tired and sore from cutting grass, laying flooring, cutting trees, painting, etc

So what your really saying is that Bama players are not athlete.

I should've known better than to waste my time responding to you.

Good one!! You've got jokes!! But no talent unfortunately

Good ones are.......

I've got $172.50 on shaw being a better archer athlete than fhil.

Only $172.50? You cheap bastard.

hand/eye coordination and endurance make them world-class athletes.
let's see: 43 at nascar's highest level; 25 or so at indycar; 40 or so in F1; no idea of how many many top rally drivers, maybe 40 or so; maybe 100 motorcycle/motocross riders. 250 or so worldwide at the highest level.
i would reckon a good percentage could be word class tennis or baseball players with that kind of hand/eye coordination and wrist quickness/strength ...

Wtf? Who of the current 43 drivers would be "world class baseball players"?


It's too early to be drinking.

How many baseball players or tennis players could be a NASCAR driver? I would guess 0.

I bet you a lot more than the other way around. I love nascar guys, but it is not an athletic sport.

Having a job or hobby that requires you to be in good physical shape and practice time does not make you an athlete...

Here is how I qualify an athlete. If it is a sport, where you must be abnormally gifted physically, you are an athlete. If it is a sport, where you can bust your azz, work hard, and earn your abilities, then you are a professional.

Football, not everybody can be a nfl caliber player, no matter how much effort they put in.

Nascar, a huge chunk of it, is how much time and effort you put in, along with your connections.

“There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games.”

Ernest Hemingway

You don't have to be abnormally gifted to be an athlete, and busting your ass doesn't make you a professional.