True. It was called Columbine.


Also agree. At Columbine, there was an officer engaged in a gunfight with the shooters within 5 minutes of the first shots. If he wouldn�t have been attempting to shoot 60 yards with a service pistol, several lives may have been saved.

BUT� to what limit? You have to draw the line somewhere. What if the people in your scenario aren�t carrying guns, what if they have Oklahoma City sized bomb? What about a nuke? At what point do you pass the threshold of �necessary� and become �excessive?�

Never seen a police department with a belt fed 50cal or an armed chopper so you tell me?

For some, it would seem the answer is anytime the bad guy may have a belt fed .50

seeing how the president said Grenade launchers, bayonets, tracked armored vehicles, weaponized aircraft and vehicles, firearms and ammunition of .50-caliber or higher will no longer be provided to state and local police agencies by the federal government. It kinda led me to believe that some possessed these things. might wanna try knowing what your talking about before actually opening that mouth.

Hey phuck nutts crack baby, reading comprehension is important. I'll say it again since you are learning disabled.


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Bill, what you are calling for is profiling. What happens in 20 years when we are the minority and the government decides white males are the problem and set these swat teams on us? What am I talking about, we are already deemed a problem. Has anyone read the 3rd amendment yet and what our founding fathers thought about it? Or did they just get that one wrong not realizing how dangerous our world would be and how we all needed the police to protect us? If schools are in danger have armed guards, if neighborhoods are in danger increase the police presence. We already have several branches of military just as out constitution allows for. We don't need police forces trying to become another branch of the military.

Bill, race is only part of the demographics. I'm not referring to JUST race, you have to take population and all other scenarios into consideration. It's done every day to help make judgments on many issues. You're stretching on this one.

You might ought to do a little digging around on the site I post below. There are several of counties here in AL alone that have acquired helicopters, MRAPs, 50 cal's ect over the last few years. This was posted several months back, but shows what excess military equipment has been received by county.

http://bridge.caspio.net/dp.asp?AppKey=36701000b255adcfe6ca4b13a8a4

I don't know how any of y'all don't consider this excessive. I mean what in the world would Chilton county need a $658,000 mine resistant vehicle for? Have the peach farmers been planting mines with their peach trees?

I think Limestone Co. got a chopper. If not them, someone else over in the NW corner did.

Oh, it doesn't matter. The police would never use it for anything but the good of the people. I feel safer knowing they are armed for war, don't you?

Marshall County has had a chopper for years.

I urged everyone to go to there local sheriff's office or police dept and sign up for some ride along's and y'all see what we have to deal with on a daily bases. We live in a corrupt world and its only getting worse. This incident below happened in the county I work in this past week. After being caught the two went on a crime spree from north Carolina to Heflin, ranging from robbery to thefts.

[img:center]http://www.abc3340.com/story/29072922/manhunt-for-suspect-accused-of-assaulting-heflin-officer[/img]

Did they have better training and equipment than law enforcement? If not , why do you need MRAP's and RPG'S to handle them? Would you like for me to post some youtube videos of police swat teams abusing innocent private citizens? I mean as long as we are trying to convince the public that they can't be protected without police being armed with military equipment we should at least show them the dangers some of those same police pose to the public, right?

That sounds like poor police work to me. I hate it happened and don't wish harm to any police officers, but how did they let them get away? Do they need a mine resistant vehicle and grenade launchers to subdue them?

Ain't no more awkward site in the world then rolling through downtown Clanton and seeing 2 MRAP's parked in front of the police department. It's the equivalent of giving Barney Fife an AR15.

These are some of the people who need more power and military weapons?

I don't know of any department that has RPGs. Most people posting here act like departments are fully equipped with surplus gear. That's far from the truth. We don't have hardly anything. I don't argue with people who don't have a clue what their talking about, but believe everything they read in the paper.

Well I appreciate that. I volunteered several hours of my time to help catch this guy. I'm just a power hungry guy that wants a bunch of RPGs and missiles though.

Tell me why any department needs an armored troop carrier or assualt vehicle.