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Re: Throw n' Mow Tutorial [Re: CNC] #1362768 06/04/15 12:36 PM 06/04/15 12:36 PM
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Turkeymaster 8 point T Joined: Jan 2014 Posts: 1,911 huntin the big lease	Originally Posted By: CNC Originally Posted By: Turkeymaster will 1 bag of the 0-0-60 be enough for 1/2 acre plots? To know exactly how much you need we would have to know your CEC value and your base saturation rates......but adding 1 bag will put you in a lot better place than you are now. Is this really sandy soil? Yes it's really sandy, I'll have to look at my soil samples tomorrow "All is fair in love, War and Turkey Hunting"

Re: Throw n' Mow Tutorial [Re: Turkeymaster] #1362790 06/04/15 01:16 PM 06/04/15 01:16 PM
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CNC OP Dances With Weeds Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 25,285 Awbarn, AL	Originally Posted By: Turkeymaster Yes it's really sandy, I'll have to look at my soil samples tomorrow If its really sandy then you have a low CEC.....or low nutrient holding capacity. Just go with the one bag right now. Once you start building more organic matter in the soil then your holding capacity will increase. Test this field at the end of the summer and lets see how things look then. It would be good to do after the lime you added anyways. Last edited by CNC; 06/04/15 01:17 PM. “Buy the ticket, take the ride...And if it occasionally gets a little heavier than what you had in mind….well, maybe chalk it up to forced consciousness expansion…..Tune in, freak out, get beaten”....Hunter S. Thompson

Re: Throw n' Mow Tutorial [Re: CNC] #1362839 06/04/15 03:10 PM 06/04/15 03:10 PM
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CNC OP Dances With Weeds Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 25,285 Awbarn, AL	Joe.... Here�s another good video that's only a couple minutes long. Notice the diverse cover crop that he�s growing in the background. This is the same thing that I�m replicating in my test field you see here in this thread. Here�s something to think about too�.We as food plotters have an advantage over the farmer in this type of system. The reason being is that the farmer actually has to grow a cash crop with one of his rotations. We as food plotters can simply grow one diverse cover crop after another�summer, winter�.summer, winter�..So where as they may fuel a field of corn off their diverse winter cover crop to sell at market�.we can simply fuel a diverse summer cover crop which will then fuels the winter cover crop and so on. First though you have to get things turned around and your soil up and running properly. This takes some time and patience. Its like taking a piece of property that�s had the hell shot out of it and implementing mature buck management goals. It takes time to change but with patience and proper management you�ll see things gradually get better and better. Short Cover Crop Video Last edited by CNC; 06/04/15 03:13 PM. “Buy the ticket, take the ride...And if it occasionally gets a little heavier than what you had in mind….well, maybe chalk it up to forced consciousness expansion…..Tune in, freak out, get beaten”....Hunter S. Thompson

Re: Throw n' Mow Tutorial [Re: RiverWood] #1362923 06/04/15 04:41 PM 06/04/15 04:41 PM
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Joe4majors 14 point Joined: Jan 2014 Posts: 6,850 Lake View, AL	Originally Posted By: RiverWood Grant drills everything no-till. Know him well and have been to his place several times. Never heard him speak of the ole mow & throw method. He convinced me to start no-till drilling Then you need to tell him someone has hacked into his videos and inserted his twin using a hand spreader to broadcast seed. He ain't even mowin'....just throwin'

Re: Throw n' Mow Tutorial [Re: CNC] #1362931 06/04/15 04:53 PM 06/04/15 04:53 PM
Joined: Jan 2014 Posts: 6,850 Lake View, AL Joe4majors 14 point
Joe4majors 14 point Joined: Jan 2014 Posts: 6,850 Lake View, AL	Originally Posted By: CNC Joe.... Here�s another good video that's only a couple minutes long. Notice the diverse cover crop that he�s growing in the background. This is the same thing that I�m replicating in my test field you see here in this thread. Here�s something to think about too�.We as food plotters have an advantage over the farmer in this type of system. The reason being is that the farmer actually has to grow a cash crop with one of his rotations. We as food plotters can simply grow one diverse cover crop after another�summer, winter�.summer, winter�..So where as they may fuel a field of corn off their diverse winter cover crop to sell at market�.we can simply fuel a diverse summer cover crop which will then fuels the winter cover crop and so on. First though you have to get things turned around and your soil up and running properly. This takes some time and patience. Its like taking a piece of property that�s had the hell shot out of it and implementing mature buck management goals. It takes time to change but with patience and proper management you�ll see things gradually get better and better. Short Cover Crop Video

Re: Throw n' Mow Tutorial [Re: CNC] #1362941 06/04/15 05:13 PM 06/04/15 05:13 PM
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257wbymag Boo Boo Head Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 38,489 N. Bama	He could be putting a 50# bag of 0-0-60 per acre!!! Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias

Re: Throw n' Mow Tutorial [Re: CNC] #1362987 06/05/15 01:17 AM 06/05/15 01:17 AM
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Turkey_neck Booner Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 14,972 Clanton	With all my plants up 8-12" and having done my first round of fertilizer two weeks ago would y'all throw the second round down now? I won't be able to do it next weekend so I was gonna go ahead and hit them now. Would walk over a naked woman to get to a gobblin turkey!

Re: Throw n' Mow Tutorial [Re: Turkey_neck] #1363005 06/05/15 02:29 AM 06/05/15 02:29 AM
Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 25,285 Awbarn, AL CNC OP Dances With Weeds
CNC OP Dances With Weeds Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 25,285 Awbarn, AL	Originally Posted By: Turkey_neck With all my plants up 8-12" and having done my first round of fertilizer two weeks ago would y'all throw the second round down now? I won't be able to do it next weekend so I was gonna go ahead and hit them now. That's what I'm about to do. Looks like we may have some better rain chances coming back in to the forecast next week. I'm going to wait until Sunday just to make sure the weather guessers still feel the same and then hit it with some N.... “Buy the ticket, take the ride...And if it occasionally gets a little heavier than what you had in mind….well, maybe chalk it up to forced consciousness expansion…..Tune in, freak out, get beaten”....Hunter S. Thompson

Re: Throw n' Mow Tutorial [Re: CNC] #1363416 06/05/15 01:29 PM 06/05/15 01:29 PM
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CNC OP Dances With Weeds Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 25,285 Awbarn, AL	Another short video��.. “Buy the ticket, take the ride...And if it occasionally gets a little heavier than what you had in mind….well, maybe chalk it up to forced consciousness expansion…..Tune in, freak out, get beaten”....Hunter S. Thompson

Re: Throw n' Mow Tutorial [Re: CNC] #1363445 06/05/15 02:28 PM 06/05/15 02:28 PM
Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 25,285 Awbarn, AL CNC OP Dances With Weeds
CNC OP Dances With Weeds Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 25,285 Awbarn, AL	All kinds of diversity showing up in the field. I didn�t expect to see any of these guys show back up. I threw out some seeds last year but all of the vines were eaten and didn�t produce any melons that I know of. Must be coming back from some seeds that were still hanging around in the seed bank. Cool! Last edited by CNC; 06/05/15 02:28 PM. “Buy the ticket, take the ride...And if it occasionally gets a little heavier than what you had in mind….well, maybe chalk it up to forced consciousness expansion…..Tune in, freak out, get beaten”....Hunter S. Thompson

Re: Throw n' Mow Tutorial [Re: CNC] #1363459 06/05/15 02:44 PM 06/05/15 02:44 PM
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daniel white Booner Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 10,979 wedowee	Originally Posted By: CNC All kinds of diversity showing up in the field. I didn�t expect to see any of these guys show back up. I threw out some seeds last year but all of the vines were eaten and didn�t produce any melons that I know of. Must be coming back from some seeds that were still hanging around in the seed bank. Cool! Looks a little thin to me.... "You do and it will be the biggest mistake you ever made, you Texas brush popper" John Wayne

Re: Throw n' Mow Tutorial [Re: CNC] #1363477 06/05/15 03:12 PM 06/05/15 03:12 PM
Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 25,285 Awbarn, AL CNC OP Dances With Weeds
CNC OP Dances With Weeds Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 25,285 Awbarn, AL	This was only 2 lbs per acre of turnips but it looks like we�re going to have about 30-35% of the field occupied by areas like these. There is some clover mixed in there in the middle of this patch. This is a good reason to keep your brassica rates down low. Too much of it and all you get is brassica. Once you get your soil turned around then 1 lb per acre is probably plenty in a mix. More room in areas like these for the milo and other plants to come in. A really important thing to notice is the plant color. In the last video I posted the speaker was talking about how building organic matter over time would begin to feed your plants organic nitrogen. I believe I have now started doing that even if I�m still in the initial stages of taking advantage of such process. We�ll continue to keep nudging it forward toward being more and more fertile. “Buy the ticket, take the ride...And if it occasionally gets a little heavier than what you had in mind….well, maybe chalk it up to forced consciousness expansion…..Tune in, freak out, get beaten”....Hunter S. Thompson

Re: Throw n' Mow Tutorial [Re: CNC] #1363481 06/05/15 03:16 PM 06/05/15 03:16 PM
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Turkey_neck Booner Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 14,972 Clanton	I planted some watermelons in my cutover two years ago. The deer didn't let them get big enough to do chit. Would walk over a naked woman to get to a gobblin turkey!

Re: Throw n' Mow Tutorial [Re: CNC] #1363484 06/05/15 03:17 PM 06/05/15 03:17 PM
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257wbymag Boo Boo Head Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 38,489 N. Bama	Idk DW I can lay down and make clover look like an oak tree too if I really wanted to! Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias

Re: Throw n' Mow Tutorial [Re: Turkey_neck] #1363513 06/05/15 03:58 PM 06/05/15 03:58 PM
Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 25,285 Awbarn, AL CNC OP Dances With Weeds
CNC OP Dances With Weeds Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 25,285 Awbarn, AL	Originally Posted By: Turkey_neck I planted some watermelons in my cutover two years ago. The deer didn't let them get big enough to do chit. Deer will eat dang near anything. They really are just about like a goat. I had some okra in my mix last year as well and it got hammered just the same. I�m starting to build up some false hope that I might be able to get out ahead of the browsing pressure this year but it usually seems to happen over night so I�m not going to hold my breathe just yet. If we get some rain next week though and I get this dusting of N down�.look out, we may have something. “Buy the ticket, take the ride...And if it occasionally gets a little heavier than what you had in mind….well, maybe chalk it up to forced consciousness expansion…..Tune in, freak out, get beaten”....Hunter S. Thompson

Re: Throw n' Mow Tutorial [Re: 257wbymag] #1364131 06/07/15 04:29 AM 06/07/15 04:29 AM
Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 25,285 Awbarn, AL CNC OP Dances With Weeds
CNC OP Dances With Weeds Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 25,285 Awbarn, AL	Originally Posted By: 257wbymag Idk DW I can lay down and make clover look like an oak tree too if I really wanted to! The buckwheat is dam near waist high today�.. “Buy the ticket, take the ride...And if it occasionally gets a little heavier than what you had in mind….well, maybe chalk it up to forced consciousness expansion…..Tune in, freak out, get beaten”....Hunter S. Thompson

Re: Throw n' Mow Tutorial [Re: CNC] #1364234 06/07/15 09:13 AM 06/07/15 09:13 AM
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257wbymag Boo Boo Head Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 38,489 N. Bama	Haha yea waist high to a grass hopper! In all seriousness it looks like it's getting going. Need some rain this week though. Got dry fast again. Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias

Re: Throw n' Mow Tutorial [Re: 257wbymag] #1364288 06/07/15 11:14 AM 06/07/15 11:14 AM
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CNC OP Dances With Weeds Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 25,285 Awbarn, AL	Originally Posted By: 257wbymag Haha yea waist high to a grass hopper! In all seriousness it looks like it's getting going. Need some rain this week though. Got dry fast again. Still holding pretty good soil moisture here but I'll take the rain for sure. Today is 3 weeks to the day since planting and some of the first buckwheat plants to jump out of the ground are actually starting to send out some blooms already. That stuff grows fast! “Buy the ticket, take the ride...And if it occasionally gets a little heavier than what you had in mind….well, maybe chalk it up to forced consciousness expansion…..Tune in, freak out, get beaten”....Hunter S. Thompson

Re: Throw n' Mow Tutorial [Re: CNC] #1364289 06/07/15 11:14 AM 06/07/15 11:14 AM
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CNC OP Dances With Weeds Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 25,285 Awbarn, AL	My test field is 2 acres�I�m now adding 17 units of N to the field or 50 lbs/ac of 34-0-0 in order to give a little gas to my engine. My K levels are 155 right now and even though the test is not calling for any�.I�m going to be a little proactive and mix in 25 lbs/ac of 0-0-60 anyways. Very small amounts of fert. I�ve decided to do a little experiment over the next year with my Ca additions. Last year I brought in 4,000 lbs of Ca per acre like the soil test recommended. After one year my Ca has went up 700 lbs per acre on the soil test. To me that seems like some very inefficient chit going on there. Over the next year I�m going to add Ca in much smaller doses and see what happens comparatively. Bring on the next round of H2O��.. “Buy the ticket, take the ride...And if it occasionally gets a little heavier than what you had in mind….well, maybe chalk it up to forced consciousness expansion…..Tune in, freak out, get beaten”....Hunter S. Thompson

Re: Throw n' Mow Tutorial [Re: CNC] #1364295 06/07/15 11:41 AM 06/07/15 11:41 AM
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257wbymag Boo Boo Head Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 38,489 N. Bama	I put 80 units of 46-0-0 on my corn today. Sunflowers and grain sorghum each got 60 units. Let it rain now! Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias

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