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Re: Throw n' Mow Tutorial [Re: CNC] #1368674
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Yes. Fall tillage with a chisel plow works wonders.


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Re: Throw n' Mow Tutorial [Re: CNC] #1368741
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I've actually got a no-till sub-soiler. Neat implement. I'll figure out photo bucket one day

Re: Throw n' Mow Tutorial [Re: Turkey_neck] #1368743
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Originally Posted By: Turkey_neck
They're pretty green.except last year I had peas in this field that did great. It's a pretty hard field I think I may have to keep disking it pretty hard. I'll post pics in the morn I don't have enough service to get photobucket to work at the house.


The likely cause of it being "hard" is because its high clay content with very little organic matter in the topsoil. It'll take getting some OM over the surface and giving it some time before that will ever change. It'll also take more than just one or two crops of biomass. Its something that has to be changed over the time period of a few years. Continuing hard tillage will insure that you will always be doing so. You'll have to be willing to devote a couple summer crops to growing biomass instead of beans if you want to make a change in this manner on soil like you're dealing with.

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Re: Throw n' Mow Tutorial [Re: RiverWood] #1368745
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Originally Posted By: RiverWood
I've actually got a no-till sub-soiler. Neat implement. I'll figure out photo bucket one day


Do you have an account set up already on photbucket? What are you having trouble with?


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Re: Throw n' Mow Tutorial [Re: CNC] #1368746
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Case IH and DMI make zone builders similar to what a para till did. We actually ran some this year and I'm very impressed. It's like strip till but a bit better in my opinion.


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Re: Throw n' Mow Tutorial [Re: CNC] #1368747
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Like this.



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Re: Throw n' Mow Tutorial [Re: CNC] #1368760
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I'm using an IPad and the app gives warning that my device my not achieve optimum experience. Next step takes me to a page that says select a theme??? Then I'm at a dead-end

Re: Throw n' Mow Tutorial [Re: 257wbymag] #1368762
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All I see now in no-till cotton is para-tills. But with all of them, you better have a helluva tractor and a close by fuel supply. Gonna need both!!

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That is same implement I have except mine is green. Renovated several former Bermuda cow pastures to nwsg. Pull it with a 150 hp John Deere. When I would cross a cow path it either stops the tractor or breaks the shear pins. Tractor burns about 18 gallons per hour

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Originally Posted By: RiverWood
That is same implement I have except mine is green. Renovated several former Bermuda cow pastures to nwsg. Pull it with a 150 hp John Deere. When I would cross a cow path it either stops the tractor or breaks the shear pins. Tractor burns about 18 gallons per hour


With new ground I use a riper behind my dozer. Do you not have a ripper? Your root rakes wouldn't be better to start with?

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This implement is very similar to a ripper with coulters positioned just in front of the rippers. It slices the sod and allows shanks to sub-soil without disturbing the thatch layer. Then I used chemicals to kill Bermuda grass & no-tilled in nwsg

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I bet it is a load on a 150HP tractor. We're running them on no less than 275 HP and its a load. But we had way less sidewall compaction on corn this cold wet spring where we ran them. Where we didn't corn is still struggling. And after this upcoming week it may be toast.


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Re: Throw n' Mow Tutorial [Re: CNC] #1368806
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All of that is way out of the realm of the average food plotter. Just being able to use a drill alone is never going to be a feasible solution for the vast majority of folks....much less anything beyond that.


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My tractor is under sized but it will pull it

Re: Throw n' Mow Tutorial [Re: 257wbymag] #1368811
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Originally Posted By: 257wbymag
I bet it is a load on a 150HP tractor. We're running them on no less than 275 HP and its a load. But we had way less sidewall compaction on corn this cold wet spring where we ran them. Where we didn't corn is still struggling. And after this upcoming week it may be toast.


What are those sub-soiler things called that are about 1" steel shanks that are about 36" long. They turn with a large radius out to 90 degrees and the rear is tilted up? They create like a earth quake effect under ground. When you look across a field it's been used in you only see little lines, it does it's damage deep. Takes a BIG tractor to pull about 7 shanks. Know what that is?



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Re: Throw n' Mow Tutorial [Re: CNC] #1368814
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V ripper or sub moisture plow?


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Re: Throw n' Mow Tutorial [Re: 257wbymag] #1368819
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I guess , but it's not a V at the bottom, more like a big hook.



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This?


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Re: Throw n' Mow Tutorial [Re: CNC] #1368825
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I think you talking about a para till

Re: Throw n' Mow Tutorial [Re: 257wbymag] #1368896
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Originally Posted By: 257wbymag


This?


Nope, however, that little unit would make the black smoke roll too.



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