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Re: is corn to blame?
[Re: hawglips]
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07/07/15 10:55 AM
07/07/15 10:55 AM
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alabama
BhamFred
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alabama
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not to worry Daniel, I don't listen to him anyway......
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: is corn to blame?
[Re: BhamFred]
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07/07/15 11:13 AM
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NC
hawglips
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NC
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Maybe if states rights stuff ever comes to a head we can at least make PCP the turkey czar of Alabama or maybe even the southeast.
But I am concerned that he'd make me shooting a fall hen a hanging offense.... Charles Kelly would send a MOSAD hit team after you.... Maybe if I could talk PCP into appointing me as his deputy czar I could convince him to go easy on the hen killers....
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Re: is corn to blame?
[Re: hawglips]
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07/07/15 12:20 PM
07/07/15 12:20 PM
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N. Bama
257wbymag
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When we have a crop failure it's usually several things that culminate to cause the disaster. With turkeys decline in areas I feel it's the same. There's no one point source of impact. Likely weather, habitat, hunting, predators and natural selection causes ebbs and flows in populations. But this may seem too logical for the state dummies to process.
Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!!
My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty
I'm the paterfamilias
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Re: is corn to blame?
[Re: BhamFred]
#1385400
07/07/15 12:57 PM
07/07/15 12:57 PM
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Posts: 8,180
Coffee Co, AL
jlccoffee
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not to worry Daniel, I don't listen to him anyway...... If you don't listen, why did you reply to my post?
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Re: is corn to blame?
[Re: BhamFred]
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07/07/15 01:04 PM
07/07/15 01:04 PM
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Coffee Co, AL
jlccoffee
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if aflatoxins killed the snot out of turkeys there wouldn't be a turkey left in Texas...... Texas was at least recently still restocking in east Texas which would be more comparable to Alabama. West Texas is dry and wouldn't compare to Alabama. The molds that make aflatoxins like hot and humid. I don't think it is all of the problem, but feeding wildlife definitely is a problem in many cases. lots of Texas gets plenty of rain, you must not watch the news lately. I do watch the news, I know about the flooding, and I have forgotten more about aflatoxins than a retired game warden will ever know. no need to get butt hurt...... I'm pretty sure you have forgotten more about any subject than everybody on here combined.....at least in yer mind. 1. I'm not butthurt. 2. We aren't talking about other topics or other members. We are talking about aflatoxin and you and I stand by my statement.
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Re: is corn to blame?
[Re: 257wbymag]
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07/07/15 01:52 PM
07/07/15 01:52 PM
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Posts: 7,780
central ala,
centralala
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When we have a crop failure it's usually several things that culminate to cause the disaster. With turkeys decline in areas I feel it's the same. There's no one point source of impact. Likely weather, habitat, hunting, predators and natural selection causes ebbs and flows in populations. But this may seem too logical for the state dummies to process. That very well could be true but I blame everything on coyotes. I HATE THEM!!! They cause global warming and got Obama elected!!
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Re: is corn to blame?
[Re: hawglips]
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07/08/15 12:07 AM
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Locust Fork, Alabama
BC
Freak of Nature
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Locust Fork, Alabama
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Maybe if states rights stuff ever comes to a head we can at least make PCP the turkey czar of Alabama or maybe even the southeast.
But I am concerned that he'd make me shooting a fall hen a hanging offense.... Charles Kelly would send a MOSAD hit team after you.... Maybe if I could talk PCP into appointing me as his deputy czar I could convince him to go easy on the hen killers.... That office already belongs to me when PCP is appointed. 
"Some men are mere hunters; others are turkey hunters."
-- Archibald Rutledge
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Re: is corn to blame?
[Re: hawglips]
#1385646
07/08/15 02:20 AM
07/08/15 02:20 AM
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South of 20/North of 10
North40R
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I believe that in my area it's been a combination of everything already mentioned!
Hunting pressure has gone from very low to extremely high, timber management is exactly what it says, "timber management" not "turkey management", chicken litter (from the chicken house straight to the field) and predators!
I just hope PCP gets appointed soon so I can retire from this chemical plant and get rich trapping!...
Adopt the pace of nature, her secret is patience. Emerson
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Re: is corn to blame?
[Re: BC]
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07/08/15 05:56 AM
07/08/15 05:56 AM
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Posts: 12,409
Sylacauga, AL
poorcountrypreacher
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Maybe if states rights stuff ever comes to a head we can at least make PCP the turkey czar of Alabama or maybe even the southeast.
But I am concerned that he'd make me shooting a fall hen a hanging offense.... Charles Kelly would send a MOSAD hit team after you.... Maybe if I could talk PCP into appointing me as his deputy czar I could convince him to go easy on the hen killers.... That office already belongs to me when PCP is appointed. I believe I put a stipulation on that appointment - you have to convert to an Auburn man first. Once you do that, the job is yours! Hal, sorry, but your public confessions of henkilling will make you ineligible. Even though a Czar doesn't have to worry about public opinion, it still would just look bad. But I'm convinced all your TSS work has saved many gobblers from a terrible death by coyotes, so I will make sure you are spared from the hanging. >>>I just hope PCP gets appointed soon so I can retire from this chemical plant and get rich trapping!...<<< I will indeed make you a rich man at $100 per varmint. I may have to put a higher bounty on coyotes or all the trappers will focus on the easier critters. I'm gonna have an army of trappers out in the woods eliminating turkey eaters. A coon is gonna be as scarce as a black panther. Dang, this place sure does get slow in the off-season. 
All the labor of man is for his mouth, and yet the appetite is not filled.
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Re: is corn to blame?
[Re: 257wbymag]
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07/08/15 06:53 AM
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Matt Brock
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When we have a crop failure it's usually several things that culminate to cause the disaster. With turkeys decline in areas I feel it's the same. There's no one point source of impact. Likely weather, habitat, hunting, predators and natural selection causes ebbs and flows in populations. But this may seem too logical for the state dummies to process. Referring to us as state dummies and not thinking logically is a great way to communicate your concerns. Science has already proven over and over that congregating animals in an area in an unnatural way(feeding) assists with the spread of highly infectious diseases. I don't understand for te life of me why some people don't understand that. It's no different than a person with E. Choli on their hands visiting a buffet line. Guess what? Nearly everybody else that goes down the buffet line will either transfer or contract E. Choli. Come on people. As for that being a primary cause for declines, I'm not of the opinion it's high on the list, but it might very well be a contributor on local levels where diseased turkeys have been collected.
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Re: is corn to blame?
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07/08/15 06:59 AM
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Montgomery / Luverne
crenshawco
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When we have a crop failure it's usually several things that culminate to cause the disaster. With turkeys decline in areas I feel it's the same. There's no one point source of impact. Likely weather, habitat, hunting, predators and natural selection causes ebbs and flows in populations. But this may seem too logical for the state dummies to process. Science has already proven over and over that congregating animals in an area in an unnatural way(feeding) assists with the spread of highly infectious diseases. I don't understand for te life of me why some people don't understand that. It's no different than a person with E. Choli on their hands visiting a buffet line. Guess what? Nearly everybody else that goes down the buffet line will either transfer or contract E. Choli. Come on people. So why did the state legalize feeding?
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Re: is corn to blame?
[Re: hawglips]
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07/08/15 07:19 AM
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257wbymag
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Well Matt I was pointing that more at the paper pushing desk jockeys in Montgomery not field guys like you. I'm in the same boat I got some assholes in Washington trying to tell me and my customers how to farm our Wheeler refuge here. That schit don't fly with me
Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!!
My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty
I'm the paterfamilias
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Re: is corn to blame?
[Re: poorcountrypreacher]
#1385865
07/08/15 07:31 AM
07/08/15 07:31 AM
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NC
hawglips
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NC
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Hal, sorry, but your public confessions of henkilling will make you ineligible. Even though a Czar doesn't have to worry about public opinion, it still would just look bad. But I'm convinced all your TSS work has saved many gobblers from a terrible death by coyotes, so I will make sure you are spared from the hanging.
Thank you... I think...
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Re: is corn to blame?
[Re: crenshawco]
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07/08/15 07:31 AM
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Matt Brock
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When we have a crop failure it's usually several things that culminate to cause the disaster. With turkeys decline in areas I feel it's the same. There's no one point source of impact. Likely weather, habitat, hunting, predators and natural selection causes ebbs and flows in populations. But this may seem too logical for the state dummies to process. Science has already proven over and over that congregating animals in an area in an unnatural way(feeding) assists with the spread of highly infectious diseases. I don't understand for te life of me why some people don't understand that. It's no different than a person with E. Choli on their hands visiting a buffet line. Guess what? Nearly everybody else that goes down the buffet line will either transfer or contract E. Choli. Come on people. So why did the state legalize feeding? It's always been legal to "feed".
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Re: is corn to blame?
[Re: crenshawco]
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07/08/15 09:14 AM
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Sylacauga, AL
poorcountrypreacher
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Ok, let me rephrase it for you. Why did the state pass a law that encourages hunters to feed? Try again. Nobody passed a law; the state just defined "area", which was in the law, but vague. Now its still vague.
All the labor of man is for his mouth, and yet the appetite is not filled.
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Re: is corn to blame?
[Re: hawglips]
#1385998
07/08/15 10:25 AM
07/08/15 10:25 AM
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North40R
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PCP for President!... We'll just skip the Czar or scar or whatever! Lol!
And what is this "off" season you speak of? I'm just too busy planting and trapping to have internet time except during hunting season!
Last edited by North40R; 07/08/15 10:26 AM.
Adopt the pace of nature, her secret is patience. Emerson
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Re: is corn to blame?
[Re: 257wbymag]
#1386016
07/08/15 10:50 AM
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Posts: 6,999
Holly Pond, AL
NightHunter
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Posts: 6,999
Holly Pond, AL
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When we have a crop failure it's usually several things that culminate to cause the disaster. With turkeys decline in areas I feel it's the same. There's no one point source of impact. Likely weather, habitat, hunting, predators and natural selection causes ebbs and flows in populations. But this may seem too logical for the state dummies to process. Better watch who you call a dummie 
Last edited by NightHunter; 07/08/15 10:51 AM.
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Re: is corn to blame?
[Re: hawglips]
#1386026
07/08/15 11:11 AM
07/08/15 11:11 AM
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257wbymag
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Damnit I said it was the city folks at the state level not yall.
Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!!
My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty
I'm the paterfamilias
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