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Rut Map #1466359
09/30/15 06:25 AM
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If we could somehow map up the dates of peak rut for deer in Alabama, do you think the map would have distinct zones, or be random pockets, or a hybrid of the two? I give the example map below of what I mean by zones, but I am not trying to relate this air temp map to rut so no need to comment on that.

I don't know of a rut-timing map for the state (correct me if I'm wrong). Personally, I'm curious what patterns emerge, if any.

For you mapping experts, do you think ALDEER could generate enough data to put a map together?




Re: Rut Map [Re: Joe4majors] #1466372
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Not sure about bama but it is pretty close on the areas I hunt in Mississippi.

Re: Rut Map [Re: Joe4majors] #1466376
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Georgia DNR has a rut map: http://www.georgiawildlife.com/rut-map



Blong, is that MS-LA map from one of their DNR's?


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Re: Rut Map [Re: Joe4majors] #1466382
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What would you base the idea of 'rut' on? Black tarsal glands? Chasing? I would assume at least one of the rutting signs/signals/activities would have to be present to consider it a rut map in relation to the date the deer was killed or observed. I believe it can be done though. Accuracy would solely be based on participation rate and the 'rut' credentials in which the data and map would be based on.


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Originally Posted By: Clem

Georgia DNR has a rut map: http://www.georgiawildlife.com/rut-map



Blong, is that MS-LA map from one of their DNR's?

Originally Posted By: Clem

Georgia DNR has a rut map: http://www.georgiawildlife.com/rut-map



Not sure, I pulled it up on google.



Blong, is that MS-LA map from one of their DNR's?

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I think what he means is "peak rut" with top activity, chasing, breeding, etc., that hunters look for as the prime time, since the "rut" is basically from the time the velvet comes off until the antlers drop.


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Re: Rut Map [Re: Clem] #1466408
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Originally Posted By: Clem

I think what he means is "peak rut" with top activity, chasing, breeding, etc., that hunters look for as the prime time, since the "rut" is basically from the time the velvet comes off until the antlers drop.




Yes, I just mean when the hunting gets good and the bucks let does get them killed. Obviously it is a time span rather than a single day, but thought it might be easier to map if specific as possible.

Re: Rut Map [Re: Joe4majors] #1466414
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This one put out by the mdwfp was determined by peak breeding dates. I believe they pulled fetus' from road kill, late season does and dated from that.

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Re: Rut Map [Re: Blong] #1466422
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Originally Posted By: Blong
Not sure about bama but it is pretty close on the areas I hunt in Mississippi.


That's what I was looking for. Thanks. There must be a significant difference in the amount or quality of data used for the maps when comparing MS to AL though. It's not like they stop breeding on particular dates when deer cross the state line! smile

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Originally Posted By: Clem

Georgia DNR has a rut map: http://www.georgiawildlife.com/rut-map



Blong, is that MS-LA map from one of their DNR's?


That's a nice map!

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Re: Rut Map [Re: Joe4majors] #1466439
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Those are incorrect from my data.

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The most accurate one I've seen for my areas

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Originally Posted By: Blong
Not sure about bama but it is pretty close on the areas I hunt in Mississippi.


I'm real sure about Bama, not even close. And to the OP's question, it would be a patch work in much of the state. Someone post up the fetal study conception date map. Waaaaay different than the map shown here.



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Re: Rut Map [Re: Joe4majors] #1466540
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I found the DCNR conception date map but its in PDF format and Photobucket won't upload that format. Don't know how to change it, if its possible.

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copy and paste the link to the pdf

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Re: Rut Map [Re: Joe4majors] #1466553
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MS collects does from WMAs, other public lands, and private cooperators to gather their breeding data. We do the same thing every year. We have decades worth of breeding data that led to the map Mr. Clif posted a picture of. We are also trying to fill in gaps where breeding data is lacking. When AL publishes a map with breeding data it will be full of random breeding and pockets that do not fall in line with areas surrounding those pockets. AL probably has one of the most confusing breeding seasons as any state in the country, with the exception of FL. Breeding dates for the southern half of the state are pretty consistent across the board, except along the AL/GA state line. Most breeding in south AL is late January and early February. Along the state line it's November and December. North AL is a mess. It ranges from peak breeding dates in early November to mid February. Even in areas of close proximity, separated by no major land features, deer can range more than 60 days in less than 60 miles. A map for north AL would be all over the dang place. The one Clif posted is as close as has been put together to date.

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Originally Posted By: 40Bucks
I found the DCNR conception date map but its in PDF format and Photobucket won't upload that format. Don't know how to change it, if its possible.


You can save it as a jpeg file, then load to PB.

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Re: Rut Map [Re: ] #1466610
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Originally Posted By: Matt Brock
MS collects does from WMAs, other public lands, and private cooperators to gather their breeding data. We do the same thing every year. We have decades worth of breeding data that led to the map Mr. Clif posted a picture of. We are also trying to fill in gaps where breeding data is lacking. When AL publishes a map with breeding data it will be full of random breeding and pockets that do not fall in line with areas surrounding those pockets. AL probably has one of the most confusing breeding seasons as any state in the country, with the exception of FL. Breeding dates for the southern half of the state are pretty consistent across the board, except along the AL/GA state line. Most breeding in south AL is late January and early February. Along the state line it's November and December. North AL is a mess. It ranges from peak breeding dates in early November to mid February. Even in areas of close proximity, separated by no major land features, deer can range more than 60 days in less than 60 miles. A map for north AL would be all over the dang place. The one Clif posted is as close as has been put together to date.


Thanks Matt.

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