Originally Posted by WmHunter
Originally Posted by TensawRiver
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Most live and believe whole heartedly in a "performance based religion" where they have to "do" or not "do" to aid in their salvation and to keep that angry God appeased.
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Yep, some folks and even some denominations (not saying COC as I have heard it both ways from COC members) add performance/works to the Salvation formula - and some add being a member of their denomination also (as the Roman CC church and the Eastern Orthodox church does).

And all of the pagan demon made and man made false religions are works/performance based, and with no certainty or guarantee of any eternal outcome. Which is sad.


Amen! sadly I know this all to well. Being raised Pentecostal I was actually miserable and regretted that I had even gave in to an alter call one Sunday night at an old fashion alter. No I don't mean that literally but kind of sorta so if you know what I mean. Jesus was so sweet and so loving and unforgiving that one night but by next Sunday He was a whole other God! My Pastor would preach in that Holiness preacher voice " you gotta walk right!, talk right! and spit white!" (meaning no chewing or dipping, lol!) You gotta quit sinning and get busy serving God! places you can't go and places you gotta go. You gotta dress this way and not dress that way. If you ain't read your Bible this week then you must not of "truly" got saved. I mean I could run this thread with crap and yes that's exactly what it was crap! I growled up and de dang if I didn't start preaching myself the same old crap and was miserable. I came to Jesus not because I genuienly wanted to have a relationship with Him and get to know Him but I got "saved" cause I was scared of going to hell. That Sunday night was way back March 1994 and up until 5yrs ago and had many ups and downs and in's and outs of going to church and "serving" God.

Amazingly though by the Graciousness of my Father(Heavenly) I allowed and yeildied to that soft sweet voice of the Holy Spirit to speak to my heart and WOW! what a journey these last 5 yrs has been. Little by little and I mean that, it was with a great struggle that little by little those grave clothes of religion began to fall off and I was no longer miserable, no longer was I afraid and finally after all those years I began to actually start a relationship with Jesus and I was no longer doing the "sepulture shuffle" (trying to walk by faith with all those grave clothes and wrappings of religion on)

Man! I guess I could write for days but it is a deer hunting forum I guess, lol!


Romans 8:1-2
"There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, for the law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of Sin and Death"