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Re: Anybody have a similar experience ?? [Re: JWC] #1501378
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Who is the judge in the original case that handed down the conviction?



Get the F out of the BATFE. The F is guaranteed by the US Constitution. Those other letters are not.


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Re: Anybody have a similar experience ?? [Re: JWC] #1501389
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Wiley, unfortunately I think he is a regular contributor on here {but not positive].

also as a side note I'd like to thank JWC for driving me to the hospital on Monday. Guys I had a Gout attack as my heel essentially exploded. Just got out of hospital after 4 days and was excited to here that JWC's son is now officially innocent. GREAT NEWS!

Re: Anybody have a similar experience ?? [Re: JWC] #1501396
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Doe killer is the GW liable ? Can he be sued ? clearing up is not going to cheap.


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Re: Anybody have a similar experience ?? [Re: 2Dogs] #1501403
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Originally Posted By: 2Dogs
Originally Posted By: 300Ruger
Might be time for a Civil suite against said retired game warden.


I'd dang sure want all my legal fees back, if not more.


Me too. I've never sued anyone and I am not in favor of many lawsuits that I hear about but this is one time that one is warranted.


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Re: Anybody have a similar experience ?? [Re: jallencrockett] #1501430
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Originally Posted By: jallencrockett
Wiley, unfortunately I think he is a regular contributor on here {but not positive].



Judges are public officials. Post his name.



Get the F out of the BATFE. The F is guaranteed by the US Constitution. Those other letters are not.


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Re: Anybody have a similar experience ?? [Re: jallencrockett] #1501431
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Originally Posted By: jallencrockett
Wiley, unfortunately I think he is a regular contributor on here {but not positive].


I don't think so. The judge was a she, not a he. Terri Lovell.

Re: Anybody have a similar experience ?? [Re: JWC] #1501466
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Centrala....GREAT. I hoped it wasn't someone from here!

Re: Anybody have a similar experience ?? [Re: centralala] #1501474
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Originally Posted By: centralala
Originally Posted By: jallencrockett
Wiley, unfortunately I think he is a regular contributor on here {but not positive].


I don't think so. The judge was a she, not a he. Terri Lovell.


She's in Circuit Court. Did Adrian D. Johnson not hear the case when it was in District court?

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Get the F out of the BATFE. The F is guaranteed by the US Constitution. Those other letters are not.


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Re: Anybody have a similar experience ?? [Re: Wiley Coyote] #1501479
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Originally Posted By: Wiley Coyote
Originally Posted By: centralala
Originally Posted By: jallencrockett
Wiley, unfortunately I think he is a regular contributor on here {but not positive].


I don't think so. The judge was a she, not a he. Terri Lovell.


She's in Circuit Court. Did Adrian D. Johnson not hear the case when it was appealed to District court?


I don't know. I read one that said "Hon. Terri ???? Lovell.

Re: Anybody have a similar experience ?? [Re: augustus_65] #1501500
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Still a Douchebag move

Re: Anybody have a similar experience ?? [Re: JWC] #1501501
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Why did the Supreme Court reverse the convictions?

Re: Anybody have a similar experience ?? [Re: augustus_65] #1501510
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Originally Posted By: augustus_65
I haven't read the opinion yet. It was released this afternoon and I was at a bull sale on a friends farm. From what I understand it was reversed on the sufficiency of the evidence in a 5-4 opinion with four justices dissenting.


Bull sale on a Friday?


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Originally Posted By: augustus_65
Originally Posted By: daniel white

Originally Posted By: augustus_65
I haven't read the opinion yet. It was released this afternoon and I was at a bull sale on a friends farm. From what I understand it was reversed on the sufficiency of the evidence in a 5-4 opinion with four justices dissenting.


Bull sale on a Friday?


Yep. CK Cattle in Hope Hull had their first ever on the farm sale. They sold 88 angus and chiangus bulls and about 40 bred heifers. They had a great sale.


10-4. Why anyone would ever want a ounce of Chi blood in cattle I'll never under stand. grin


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Re: Anybody have a similar experience ?? [Re: augustus_65] #1501516
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Originally Posted By: augustus_65
Now that the matter is final, I am at liberty to comment. I was precluded by the cannon of judicial ethics from commenting until the matter was concluded. As most of you know I am the district judge in Lowndes County. I heard this matter at the district court level and found all three defendants guilty of hunting at night, shooting from a public road and hunting by aid of a motor vehicle. At the trial, the state presented testimony from the retired game warden and the sheriffs deputies that responded to the call. Counsel for the defendants cross examined the witnesses for the state and attacked the former wardens ability to issue the warrants. He testified that he did not sign the warrants in his capacity as an officer but as someone who witnessed a misdemeanor committed in his presence, which is legally correct. After the conclusion of the states case in chief, the defendants had an opportunity to present their case, but instead of presenting any testimony they rested. The defendants did not testify or present any evidence in their defense. The state made a prima facie claim meeting all the elements of each of the charges proving their case beyond a reasonable doubt so I found all three defendants guilty of all three charges and assessed the statutorily prescribed fines. The case was appealed to circuit court where the defendants waived their right to a jury trail and tried the case as a bench trial before the circuit judge. She convicted them as well. The case was the appealed to the Alabama Court of Criminal Appeals which affirmed the convictions. The Supreme Court has now reversed the convictions and rendered the matter meaning that it is final.

I will say that there is still no doubt in my mind that one of the boys fired a rifle from that truck. Had the one who fired the shot accepted responsibility, I would have dismissed all charges against the other two defendants and allowed him to plead to shooting from a public road and dismissed the other two charges. He would have had a $1000 fine and costs to pay and that would have been the end of it.
why not just charge all 3 with shooting from the road instead of all this :

Code of Alabama 9-11-235. Hunting after dark
  Code of Alabama 9-11-257 Hunting from a public road
  Code of Alabama 220-2-11. Hunting fom a vehicle

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Re: Anybody have a similar experience ?? [Re: JWC] #1501523
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beyond a reasonable doubt? I have my doubts on that.

Re: Anybody have a similar experience ?? [Re: JWC] #1501530
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Re: Anybody have a similar experience ?? [Re: hallb] #1501560
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Originally Posted By: hallb
beyond a reasonable doubt? I have my doubts on that.


They don't know who shot so they charged them all? Why not just put their names on a dart board and just charge which ever one the dart lands on? That doesn't sound as much like justice as it does good ol boy revenue generating politics.


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Re: Anybody have a similar experience ?? [Re: bill] #1501573
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Originally Posted By: bill

Originally Posted By: hallb
beyond a reasonable doubt? I have my doubts on that.


They don't know who shot so they charged them all? Why not just put their names on a dart board and just charge which ever one the dart lands on? That doesn't sound as much like justice as it does good ol boy revenue generating politics.


Exactly what I was about to post. Damn shameful way to run a court.



Get the F out of the BATFE. The F is guaranteed by the US Constitution. Those other letters are not.


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Re: Anybody have a similar experience ?? [Re: ridgestalker] #1501577
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Interesting read popcorn

Re: Anybody have a similar experience ?? [Re: JWC] #1501592
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Seems like many mistakes were made along the way. Probably mistakes that were first made at the election booth.

Augustus...you should admit now, like a good man, that you made a mistake and find an honest way to make it up to these boys. Considering that you put them through several years of difficulty...you got a lot of making up to do.


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