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Re: Anybody have a similar experience ??
[Re: Hogwild]
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11/01/15 03:58 PM
11/01/15 03:58 PM
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Gee's Bend/At The Hog Pen
James
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They were granted youthful offenders.....teenagers! U have until 20 I think?
Do not regret growing older, it's a privilege denied to many!
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Re: Anybody have a similar experience ??
[Re: James]
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11/01/15 04:00 PM
11/01/15 04:00 PM
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BhamFred
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They were granted youthful offenders.....teenagers! U have until 20 I think? depends on the court/judge in real life....
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
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Re: Anybody have a similar experience ??
[Re: JWC]
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11/01/15 04:03 PM
11/01/15 04:03 PM
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Fayetteville TN Via Selma
jawbone
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I don't know of a statutory limit, although there may be one. I've heard of over 21s getting YO before. Like Fred says, it mostly depends on the judge.
Edit: it is 21. The case I thought of, the kid was 20 when the act was committed. he was caught later so he still qualified.
Last edited by jawbone; 11/01/15 04:13 PM.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Re: Anybody have a similar experience ??
[Re: Hogwild]
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11/01/15 04:33 PM
11/01/15 04:33 PM
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Fayetteville TN Via Selma
jawbone
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Maybe I am just getting old......but, still a 'youngun' to me! Only in responsible families. Too many of todays kids are sadly "grown" and dangerous before they are old enough to drive.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Re: Anybody have a similar experience ??
[Re: Bamabucks14]
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11/01/15 05:19 PM
11/01/15 05:19 PM
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Just keep in mind there is a very broad law in Alabama called Harassing Communications and Mr. Morrow does know how to sign a warrant.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Re: Anybody have a similar experience ??
[Re: M48scout]
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11/01/15 06:22 PM
11/01/15 06:22 PM
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[quote=M48scout]A little off topic, but what would have happened to the youth, in theory, had they forcfully resisted being detained by this retired officer? Say, had they told him to move his truck from in front of the gate, and after his refusal, they rammed his truck out of the way, whipped his azz/got the keys/moved it themselves, etc?
In other words, what obligation are we under as average citizens to submit to an attempted physical detention by a person who is not acting in official capacity as an LEO? Would these youth have been within their right to have physically resisted being detained? If any hypothethical efforts to avoid forceful detention had ended up resulting in property damage or injury to this retired officer, a) what theorectical legal consequences lied in store for them, and b) what in practice normally happens? (I suspect I know).
My point being, since retired officers may view their employment history as a lifetime appointment with privileges of physically dealing with the public ... are we average citizens simply at their mercy as stroll through society deciding on a whim when to capture their fellow citizens? I agree with you, that's why I posted the question (not because I necessarily think escalating the situation is always the wisest course of action). Fundamentally ... If I decide I don't feel like being held in one spot and I'm going to leave, I'm I compelled to continue being held hostage if a non-LEO physically stands in my way? What is the fallout I legally face if I decide "by God I'm about to be on my way ... and you better not try and stop me"? To me, what angers me most about this case is that potentially innocent youth were physically detained by someone who had zero right to do so. That seems clear based on what I understand so far. What isn't clear is what options they legally had to do something about it at that very moment? What if one of us is faced with a similar situation when attempting to drive away from our hunting lease one night and some kook decides you shot past dark/messed with his dogs/don't have rights to hunt his granddaddy's old place/etc etc etc.? What if you think he's an old kook and act accordingly and it turns out he's some old codger retired sherif type who is turkey hunting buddies with the DA? Exactly! Or what if you actually have a deer in the back of the truck after dark which probably almost everybody on here has had at one time or another? As for the media, by all means give it a shot, but I really don't see the media coming to the defense (even after the fact) of a gun owner. It's been said before but bears repeating, "power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely". That applies to all sorts of people from the meter maid to the leader of the free world. It's funny how the people who should be in authority don't much seek it and those who shouldn't be allowed anywhere near it have a burning lust for it. Are there required qualifications to become a judge or do you just have to get enough votes? Man I don't envy righteous law enforcement they are being hammered from every side, people who spend their time trying to provoke them on one side and knuckleheaded bullies on the inside tarnishing their rep, and oh yeah the public who just wants to be protected from lawlessness. Tough job. Glad they're still a lot of good people trying to do the best they can with it.
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Re: Anybody have a similar experience ??
[Re: mw2015]
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11/02/15 04:48 AM
11/02/15 04:48 AM
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Panhandle Florida
PaschalBD
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Perhaps the retired GW has let a judge/judges/judges friends skirt the game laws on occasion. Judge feels obligated to do as GW asks.
Just a thought...
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Re: Anybody have a similar experience ??
[Re: odocoileus]
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11/02/15 05:58 AM
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Mayberry
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Well essentially a former GW decided he wanted to come out of retirement and get his jollies off harassing some kids. A judge made a bad decision and allowed some BS charges to stand in his court because of who the accuser was. I'm not calling the kids liars, but I was 18-19 years old at one point and know you can make some poor decisions. However they damn sure shouldn't have been charged with what they were charged with whether they fired a shot or not. It's the states burden to prove they did something wrong and they couldn't. Glad it worked out. And the judge is/was a member on here. He made some posts on this thread showing his arrogance then deleted them. Thankfully, we still have them in case it's ever needed. 
"How in the hell did you get to be a moderator?"...Skinny
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Re: Anybody have a similar experience ??
[Re: JWC]
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11/02/15 07:08 AM
11/02/15 07:08 AM
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Mayberry
Brent
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Haha. I'm not getting involved in it. Those posts are just in case aldeer gets brought up when the teevee stations interview the folks involved.
"How in the hell did you get to be a moderator?"...Skinny
God Bless Nick Saban!
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Re: Anybody have a similar experience ??
[Re: JWC]
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11/02/15 07:20 AM
11/02/15 07:20 AM
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Clarksville, TN /Greenville, ...
bill
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Below is a quote(on another thread) from the same judge that railroaded these boys. I guess this logic doesn't apply to those not part of the Lowndes County lynch mob. Never forget that the infringment of anyone's rights is an erosion of everyone's rights. Under our legal system, the presumption of innocence extends to even those charged with the most heinous crimes. I see circumstances every day where someone has been convicted in the Court of public opinion by simply being charged with a crime. The worse the crime, the more easily people are willing to circumvent a persons right to due process. Thankfully, we have legal protections that secure the rights of all citizens. When we begin to allow the rights of those charged with dispicable acts to be eroded based solely upon the crime for which they are charged, all of our rights are in jeopardy.
" I do view Jim Waltz as a really good Presidential candidate"
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