Went to Bent Creek several years ago on a bowhunt. I know its hunting, but when Will Primos and his crew are in the same lodge. And most of them tag out on nice bucks. And the stands you hunt looks like they have been hunted twice a day for a month. With trash left around them and cig butts on the ground under them. With so many foot tracks in the road leading to the stands that a blind man could follow them. The only sit I seen deer, the stand was in a pine not much bigger than a coke can. Everytime you moved the whole tree shook. Then when the deer stepped out on the other end of the field, about 300 yards away. They all looked right at the stand. I have never been back. I havent had much luck with outfitters. The couple that I have hunted with, I dont feel like I got my moneys worth.