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Re: Trump calls for total shut down on Muslims entering the USA !
[Re: Flyway]
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12/09/15 09:49 AM
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That's my point. You sound like you're willing to potentially give up 1st Amendment rights for safety. Banning immigration of certain countries - as in complete banning, is not religous discrimination. What do you call Obama refusing to allow Middle East and North African Christians into the country?
"The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
" Chuck Sykes is a dictator control freak like Vladimir Putin " WmHunter
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Re: Trump calls for total shut down on Muslims entering the USA !
[Re: WmHunter]
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12/09/15 09:52 AM
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doekiller
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Stopping further immigration of Muslims into the U.S is NOT "religious persecution"!!
But it is a literal matter of national and civilizational SURVIVAL. It's not religious persecution, it's religious discrimination. No it's not. Islam is not a real religion. It is a totalitarian Nazi-like political ideology masquerading as religion that seeks complete total *physical* conquest and domination of the entire world - just like the German Nazis and Russian Communists sought. To be in favor of Muslim immigration is an act of Treason. Says you. It is a recognized religion in every country in the world. Because you don't like its tenets doesn't mean it isn't a religion.
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Re: Trump calls for total shut down on Muslims entering the USA !
[Re: doekiller]
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12/09/15 09:54 AM
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Technically from a purely legal standpoint you are right Doekiller. And it is that thinking that will allow Muslims to cause more and more conflict and terrorism in this country - and Europe, and all over the world.
Real men with backbone don't believe in capitulating to evil. They fight it and oppose it.
"The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
" Chuck Sykes is a dictator control freak like Vladimir Putin " WmHunter
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Re: Trump calls for total shut down on Muslims entering the USA !
[Re: perchjerker]
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12/09/15 09:54 AM
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I agree with you in this instance. But I'm telling you, when you start defining what is a real religion and what isn't you've lost. Marriage used to be defined as a union between a man and a woman. Definitions change. The minute that definition needs to be changed to advance an agenda it will be changed. It won't be today or next month...might not even be in your lifetime, but it'll eventually be used against Christians.
Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death! - Patrick Henry
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Re: Trump calls for total shut down on Muslims entering the USA !
[Re: perchjerker]
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12/09/15 09:59 AM
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it suit me to just close the borders off period except for citizens entering and exiting
"A moment of realization is worth a thousand prayers"
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Re: Trump calls for total shut down on Muslims entering the USA !
[Re: goodman_hunter]
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12/09/15 10:47 AM
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it suit me to just close the borders off period except for citizens entering and exiting +1
"The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
" Chuck Sykes is a dictator control freak like Vladimir Putin " WmHunter
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Re: Trump calls for total shut down on Muslims entering the USA !
[Re: perchjerker]
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12/09/15 10:47 AM
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Map of the Muslim world of countries to be banned: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_world
"The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
" Chuck Sykes is a dictator control freak like Vladimir Putin " WmHunter
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Re: Trump calls for total shut down on Muslims entering the USA !
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12/09/15 10:52 AM
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See there, you'd stop Muslim terrorism and Ebola in the US with one stroke of the pen. Why hasn't someone thought of this sooner!
Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death! - Patrick Henry
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Re: Trump calls for total shut down on Muslims entering the USA !
[Re: goodman_hunter]
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12/09/15 10:57 AM
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Reloader79
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it suit me to just close the borders off period except for citizens entering and exiting Key word there being CITIZENS.
If I agreed with you, we'd both be wrong.
Bluetick serpentines around green fields and rock spit a lease
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Re: Trump calls for total shut down on Muslims entering the USA !
[Re: Reloader79]
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12/10/15 08:51 AM
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And such exclusion would be totally constitutional: http://www.wnd.com/2015/12/experts-trump-muslim-ban-likely-constitutional/Good to see those pointy headed legal scholars agree with the ole WmHunter from Mungumry.
"The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
" Chuck Sykes is a dictator control freak like Vladimir Putin " WmHunter
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Re: Trump calls for total shut down on Muslims entering the USA !
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12/10/15 09:18 AM
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Trump is a blowhard that will stoke the publics fears to keep his name in the news. What would you call someone who was just saying what we all want said?
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Re: Trump calls for total shut down on Muslims entering the USA !
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12/10/15 09:34 AM
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speaking of blowhards....
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: Trump calls for total shut down on Muslims entering the USA !
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12/10/15 09:47 AM
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There was a time when we refused refuge to a large group of Jews fleeing the impending Holocaust... http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005267"...Public opinion in the United States, although ostensibly sympathetic to the plight of refugees and critical of Hitler's policies, continued to favor immigration restrictions. The Great Depression had left millions of people in the United States unemployed and fearful of competition for the scarce few jobs available. It also fueled antisemitism, xenophobia, nativism, and isolationism. A Fortune Magazine poll at the time indicated that 83 percent of Americans opposed relaxing restrictions on immigration. President Roosevelt could have issued an executive order to admit the St. Louis refugees, but this general hostility to immigrants, the gains of isolationist Republicans in the Congressional elections of 1938, and Roosevelt's consideration of running for an unprecedented third term as president were among the political considerations that militated against taking this extraordinary step in an unpopular cause...."Interesting...
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Re: Trump calls for total shut down on Muslims entering the USA !
[Re: ikillbux]
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12/10/15 09:50 AM
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Trump is not my candidate, but I agree with him on this one. It is a Muslim problem. This is the Trojan Horse of our time. If the "Moderate" Muslims would pull the leash back on these dogs within their ranks, then there may be a chance to stop the terrorism. But they won't. So until then we will just have to profile. YES! I said the EXACT same thing yesterday on Facebook...two words: Trojan Horse!!!!!!!!! You know what the only difference between a radical Muslim and a moderate Muslim is? It's the distance between them and the bomb.
"Some men are mere hunters; others are turkey hunters."
-- Archibald Rutledge
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Re: Trump calls for total shut down on Muslims entering the USA !
[Re: perchjerker]
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12/10/15 11:39 AM
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According to some of yall, since the fundamental Muslims have figured out a loophole in our constitution we should just let them on in to kill us all. Where does the constitution take away my unalienable right to life?? These people want to kill me and you in the name of their god. Their is nothing unconstitutional about putting a stop to people who want to kill me FOR their religion. As long as Islam has a political ideology embedded in its religion then it is open to debate. We can put a stop on any Muslim until we are able to know without a shadow of doubt what ideology they subscribe to. Do you really think our founders would have written the words in the first amendment giving a religion free reigns to kill them and establish an oppressive power that would go against what they were creating?? We have to use what has been lost in this world, common sense.
The country was founded because "We hold these truths to be SELF-EVIDENT, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are LIFE, liberty and the PURSUIT of happiness". At the time your religion takes precedence over my unaliable right to life then you lose your first amendment. My 2cts And FYI, im for Cruz not trump
"Hell with them fellows, buzzard got to eat same as a worm" Josey Wales
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Re: Trump calls for total shut down on Muslims entering the USA !
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12/10/15 11:40 AM
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Why do people care about these bastages Constitutional rights ??? They are they enemy, this is not about religion. Its about the security of this nation. once they get in here and start a bunch of bombings. Its too late." An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure", surely you guys have heard this all your lives.Why can't you understand this ?
Thomas Jefferson. The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
Life is too short to only hunt and fish on weekends!
If being a dumbass was fatal some of you would be on your death bed!
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