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Re: dog shot
[Re: jallencrockett]
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12/15/15 07:21 AM
12/15/15 07:21 AM
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Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 8,377 Gulfcrest
bigt
14 point
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With that said I still cant understand any hunter WHINING about dogs. Coyotes hunt 24 / 7.
Interesting logic you have there.....would you rather the whining or them treating the dogs like coyotes and shooting everyone they see.
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Re: dog shot
[Re: bigt]
#1562953
12/15/15 07:29 AM
12/15/15 07:29 AM
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jallencrockett
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With that said I still cant understand any hunter WHINING about dogs. Coyotes hunt 24 / 7.
Interesting logic you have there.....would you rather the whining or them treating the dogs like coyotes and shooting everyone they see. I'd rather a grown man quit whining about dogs and know enough about hunting not to worry about a dog. I honestly believe that if a "hunter" is griping about a dog then he just isn't very much of a hunter!!!! Also, shooting a dog with a collar on should be prosecuted to the full extent of law unless a person is genuinely threatened by the dog.
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Re: dog shot
[Re: Hogwild]
#1562977
12/15/15 07:42 AM
12/15/15 07:42 AM
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Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 1,575 Lee county Bama
RonBuck
8 point
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Give the dog hunters a special season like they did the bowhunters. Then, let them hunt the WMA's anytime they want to, like the bowhunters.
We already show preferential treatment for one group. Why not another? This makes sense .
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Re: dog shot
[Re: IDOT]
#1562981
12/15/15 07:43 AM
12/15/15 07:43 AM
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Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 26,235 Locust Fork, Alabama
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Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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I know of a few guys that were still hunters that got lucky cause the neighboring club ran dogs. The dog club ran the deer right by the still hunters. I seen a nice 12 pt killed off our land one time that ran a little over 7 miles from our club land and a still hunter shot it. I think that hunter was tickled to death. Maybe those that want to shoot dogs that run big deer by them should just let those big bucks run right on by them as well!! You just don't get it do you? No...... he's lost.
"Some men are mere hunters; others are turkey hunters."
-- Archibald Rutledge
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Re: dog shot
[Re: jallencrockett]
#1562989
12/15/15 07:50 AM
12/15/15 07:50 AM
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Posts: 3,800 Smith Lake
300Ruger
10 point
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With that said I still cant understand any hunter WHINING about dogs. Coyotes hunt 24 / 7.
Interesting logic you have there.....would you rather the whining or them treating the dogs like coyotes and shooting everyone they see. I'd rather a grown man quit whining about dogs and know enough about hunting not to worry about a dog. I honestly believe that if a "hunter" is griping about a dog then he just isn't very much of a hunter!!!! Also, shooting a dog with a collar on should be prosecuted to the full extent of law unless a person is genuinely threatened by the dog. Maybe if dog hunters knew a little more about real hunting, they wouldn't need to use a pack of dogs to find a deer to shoot.
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Re: dog shot
[Re: jallencrockett]
#1562991
12/15/15 07:51 AM
12/15/15 07:51 AM
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Posts: 26,235 Locust Fork, Alabama
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Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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I'd rather a grown man quit whining about dogs and know enough about hunting not to worry about a dog. You don't get it. Some (or should I say most) hunters don't want to pay whatever they have to pay to get in a club and then have a dog from the neighboring club run across their stand at 4:30. I really don't see how people can't understand this. I honestly believe that if a "hunter" is griping about a dog then he just isn't very much of a hunter!!!!. Well....... that's just a load of horse manure. Also, shooting a dog with a collar on should be prosecuted to the full extent of law unless a person is genuinely threatened by the dog. Agreed I'm going to take a walk out on a limb and say that you are a dog hunter. Am I right?
"Some men are mere hunters; others are turkey hunters."
-- Archibald Rutledge
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Re: dog shot
[Re: 300Ruger]
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12/15/15 07:59 AM
12/15/15 07:59 AM
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Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 864 Cantonment,Fl
hyco
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Cantonment,Fl
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With that said I still cant understand any hunter WHINING about dogs. Coyotes hunt 24 / 7.
Interesting logic you have there.....would you rather the whining or them treating the dogs like coyotes and shooting everyone they see. I'd rather a grown man quit whining about dogs and know enough about hunting not to worry about a dog. I honestly believe that if a "hunter" is griping about a dog then he just isn't very much of a hunter!!!! Also, shooting a dog with a collar on should be prosecuted to the full extent of law unless a person is genuinely threatened by the dog. Maybe if dog hunters knew a little more about real hunting, they wouldn't need to use a pack of dogs to find a deer to shoot. that's where you lost. It ain't about the kill. When I want just to go kill a deer I still hunt . It's about the dogs , the race, picking at your buddy for getting outrun or getting picked at for the samething. We kill plenty of bucks as a group but it's not just about killing deer.
take your kids hunting and you won't be hunting your kids
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Re: dog shot
[Re: jallencrockett]
#1563029
12/15/15 08:08 AM
12/15/15 08:08 AM
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Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 26,235 Locust Fork, Alabama
BC
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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BC nope Im a still hunting landowner and one of those biologist dudes. I have neighbor dogs on my property all the time. I have watched MANY MANY times deer feeding 70 yards away from dogs. I have watched deer being run by a dog as other deer just bed down for a moment till the dog passes and then get back up 30 seconds later after a dog passes and start feeding again. Copy..... good to know. That's not the point though. Those hunters don't want them there for any reason whatsoever. They don't care if it runs a booner by them every single time. They don't care if the deer doesn't pay them attention...... they just simply don't want them there. I saw a 6 point come into a field last year two minutes after 6 house dogs came across the field making all kind of racket. FWIW.... I've killed bucks being pushed by dogs across my property in Chambers Co. I've killed bucks backtrailing dogs that ran a doe by me 15 minutes earlier. Despite that if I was sitting in a nice hardwood bottom relaxed and just enjoying Gods creation I don't want dogs running by me. I don't care how many deer they are pushing.
"Some men are mere hunters; others are turkey hunters."
-- Archibald Rutledge
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Re: dog shot
[Re: jallencrockett]
#1563032
12/15/15 08:11 AM
12/15/15 08:11 AM
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Posts: 20,005 Pelham
Ben2
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I'd rather a grown man quit whining about dogs and know enough about hunting not to worry about a dog. I honestly believe that if a "hunter" is griping about a dog then he just isn't very much of a hunter!!!! Also, shooting a dog with a collar on should be prosecuted to the full extent of law unless a person is genuinely threatened by the dog.
Why should I be put in a position to have to whine about someone else's dog? If I wanted to dog hunt I would take my dog or join a dog club. If a dog with a collar is trespassing and I take the time to catch it I think I should be able to file trespassing charges against the owner. I have caught a pile of dogs and returned them to their owners. 1 time the owner thanked me the other times they just looked at me like I was dumb. I just don't get having an attitude when someone catches your dog's and wastes opening afternoon driving all over the county trying to bring them back to you.
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Re: dog shot
[Re: BC]
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12/15/15 08:13 AM
12/15/15 08:13 AM
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Joined: May 2008
Posts: 943 Danville, Al
JDawg
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6 point
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Danville, Al
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I know of a few guys that were still hunters that got lucky cause the neighboring club ran dogs. The dog club ran the deer right by the still hunters. I seen a nice 12 pt killed off our land one time that ran a little over 7 miles from our club land and a still hunter shot it. I think that hunter was tickled to death. Maybe those that want to shoot dogs that run big deer by them should just let those big bucks run right on by them as well!! You just don't get it do you? No...... he's lost. No I guess I don't, why don't you 2 enlighten me??
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Re: dog shot
[Re: Smells]
#1563035
12/15/15 08:15 AM
12/15/15 08:15 AM
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Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 12,788 Thomasville, AL
Hogwild
Booner
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Booner
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Thomasville, AL
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Give the dog hunters a special season like they did the bowhunters. Then, let them hunt the WMA's anytime they want to, like the bowhunters.
We already show preferential treatment for one group. Why not another? ??? I'm virtually certain no bow hunter ever interfered in any way with any of your hunts unless he was poaching on your land. Regarding "preferential treatment for one group" no one is excluding you from the group. If it chaps your ass that bad that bow hunters start in Oct., then I suggest you go get a bow and join us. That's exactly why I bought a bow to begin with, I realized I could hunt for roughly 5 or so more weeks if I did so. And oh yeah, want to hunt the WMA? It's open to all, just pay the $18 or whatever it is and knock yourself out. What does anything you said have to do with dog hunters allowing their dogs to trespass? Well, as a matter of fact, I buy a WMA license EVERY year. And, I have killed a truckload of deer with a bow. Big deal.... BUT, I did not expect the State to provide me with my own personal archery Club. If they are gonna cater to one group almost exclusively, that is their business. But, don't expect the rest of us to pay for it.
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Re: dog shot
[Re: Hogwild]
#1563044
12/15/15 08:20 AM
12/15/15 08:20 AM
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Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 26,235 Locust Fork, Alabama
BC
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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And, fwiw, I was offering up an alternative solution that would be legal. Unlike the Aldeer approved SSS....... Not approved by me..... The next one I shoot will be the first one. I would kick a man out of any club I was running for shooting another mans hunting dog. There are better solutions.
"Some men are mere hunters; others are turkey hunters."
-- Archibald Rutledge
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Re: dog shot
[Re: BC]
#1563050
12/15/15 08:23 AM
12/15/15 08:23 AM
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Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 26,235 Locust Fork, Alabama
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Freak of Nature
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Locust Fork, Alabama
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I'm sorry I've posted so much in this thread. I have been on both sides of the fence and I firmly support a mans right to dog deer hunt, and I fully support a man who doesn't want them on his lease.
I've had trouble with outlaw doggers on a few leases I've been involved with and I guess that's why I feel so strongly about it.
"Some men are mere hunters; others are turkey hunters."
-- Archibald Rutledge
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Re: dog shot
[Re: JDawg]
#1563053
12/15/15 08:25 AM
12/15/15 08:25 AM
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outdoorobsession
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outdoorobsession
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I know of a few guys that were still hunters that got lucky cause the neighboring club ran dogs. The dog club ran the deer right by the still hunters. I seen a nice 12 pt killed off our land one time that ran a little over 7 miles from our club land and a still hunter shot it. I think that hunter was tickled to death. Maybe those that want to shoot dogs that run big deer by them should just let those big bucks run right on by them as well!! You just don't get it do you? No...... he's lost. No I guess I don't, why don't you 2 enlighten me?? Sorry to interject...but I will enlighten you. You state that this DEER ran SEVEN MILES From your club and a still hunter shot it on his club..7 miles away??? Really? You see no problem with any of that! How many other clubs and peoples property did your dogs run through from YOUR club to there? Wow...you think you have a right for your dogs to go all that way through others lands? Dude...sounds like a really selfish, immature, entitled way of looking at things. Wow!
Last edited by outdoorobsession; 12/15/15 08:25 AM.
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Re: dog shot
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#1563058
12/15/15 08:28 AM
12/15/15 08:28 AM
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Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 26,235 Locust Fork, Alabama
BC
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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Locust Fork, Alabama
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I know of a few guys that were still hunters that got lucky cause the neighboring club ran dogs. The dog club ran the deer right by the still hunters. I seen a nice 12 pt killed off our land one time that ran a little over 7 miles from our club land and a still hunter shot it. I think that hunter was tickled to death. Maybe those that want to shoot dogs that run big deer by them should just let those big bucks run right on by them as well!! You just don't get it do you? No...... he's lost. No I guess I don't, why don't you 2 enlighten me?? Sorry to interject...but I will enlighten you. You state that this DEER ran SEVEN MILES From your club and a still hunter shot it on his club..7 miles away??? Really? You see no problem with any of that! How many other clubs and peoples property did your dogs run through from YOUR club to there? Wow...you think you have a right for your dogs to go all that way through others lands? Dude...sounds like a really selfish, immature, entitled way of looking at things. Wow! lol...... probably crossed what, at least 4 hunting clubs along the way? You my friend, are part of the problem.
"Some men are mere hunters; others are turkey hunters."
-- Archibald Rutledge
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