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Re: dog shot [Re: coonhunter89] #1563202
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And it ain't just dogs. If YOU own the animal, YOU need to keep it on your property. I shot 2 cows and a jackass whose owner allowed them to graze my plots down to the dirt.


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Re: dog shot [Re: coonhunter89] #1563206
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And if you're in the left lane, and I'm passing you on your right side, YOU ARE THE TRAFFIC PROBLEM!

Re: dog shot [Re: Wiley Coyote] #1563208
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I shot 2 cows and a jackass whose owner allowed them to graze my plots down to the dirt.

Hope you got some good steaks out of that deal.


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Re: dog shot [Re: 300Ruger] #1563214
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And if you're in the left lane, and I'm passing you on your right side, YOU ARE THE TRAFFIC PROBLEM!


Same for the morons who don't know how to use a median


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Re: dog shot [Re: 87dixieboy] #1563216
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Originally Posted By: 87dixieboy
And if you're in the left lane, and I'm passing you on your right side, YOU ARE THE TRAFFIC PROBLEM!


Same for the morons who don't know how to use a median


and the ones that think it`s called a "medium".

Re: dog shot [Re: JDawg] #1563217
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Originally Posted By: JDawg
Originally Posted By: outdoorobsession
Originally Posted By: JDawg
Originally Posted By: BC
Originally Posted By: IDOT
Originally Posted By: JDawg
I know of a few guys that were still hunters that got lucky cause the neighboring club ran dogs. The dog club ran the deer right by the still hunters. I seen a nice 12 pt killed off our land one time that ran a little over 7 miles from our club land and a still hunter shot it. I think that hunter was tickled to death. Maybe those that want to shoot dogs that run big deer by them should just let those big bucks run right on by them as well!!


You just don't get it do you? rolleyes



No...... he's lost.


No I guess I don't, why don't you 2 enlighten me??


Sorry to interject...but I will enlighten you.

You state that this DEER ran SEVEN MILES From your club and a still hunter shot it on his club..7 miles away???

Really? You see no problem with any of that!

How many other clubs and peoples property did your dogs run through from YOUR club to there? Wow...you think you have a right for your dogs to go all that way through others lands?

Dude...sounds like a really selfish, immature, entitled way of looking at things. Wow!
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Well outdoor first of all they weren't my dogs. Secondly this 160" 12 point was using on our 2000 acre club moving only at night. This club was so thick we barely had any still hunting places at all. The only option we pretty much had was to dog hunt here!! To me if we were selfish we would have still hunted this place hoping that we eventually killed this and the other big bucks that were killed by hopefully crossing one of our roads. But rather our club decided to bring these dog hunting guys in over Christmas break and get the deer moving!! We were extremely happy that the guy 7 miles away killed that big buck, just as happy as he was. Without those dogs that deer would more than likely died of old age. So no I don't see how we were Selfish. The neighboring clubs around us, in which we had talked to them about bringing the dogs down were all happy that the dogs got the deer moving! There were several nice bucks killed during that Christmas vacation that in my opinion would have died of old age or spotlighters may have gotten at night. I love seeing deer taken by hunters rather than seeing them found dead in the woods by disease or old age. I guess I am really selfish and immature! Anyone that knows me can attest that statement isn't true!! Lol congrats on your big buck by the way!!


Thanks on my buck. Appreciate it.

Dont get me wrong. I dont shoot dogs...but they dont dog hunt around here either. I have hunted where dogs were on us every weekend and it was not enjoyable for us.

They show up at camp..hungry and miserable mid week sometimes. Had been out there all that time. Then Id have to round them up, even feed them, contact their owners etc.

I didnt like doing that..I was there to hunt.

people hunting these days..period... have got to have more respect for their neighbors and fellow hunters and get along in my opinion.

Its all about just shooting a dang deer and having fun. Not drama and stress. Dang..that crap takes the fun right outta hunting.

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Re: dog shot [Re: BC] #1563233
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Originally Posted By: BC
Originally Posted By: JDawg
Originally Posted By: outdoorobsession
Originally Posted By: JDawg
Originally Posted By: BC
Originally Posted By: IDOT
Originally Posted By: JDawg
I know of a few guys that were still hunters that got lucky cause the neighboring club ran dogs. The dog club ran the deer right by the still hunters. I seen a nice 12 pt killed off our land one time that ran a little over 7 miles from our club land and a still hunter shot it. I think that hunter was tickled to death. Maybe those that want to shoot dogs that run big deer by them should just let those big bucks run right on by them as well!!


You just don't get it do you? rolleyes



No...... he's lost.


No I guess I don't, why don't you 2 enlighten me??


Sorry to interject...but I will enlighten you.

You state that this DEER ran SEVEN MILES From your club and a still hunter shot it on his club..7 miles away???

Really? You see no problem with any of that!

How many other clubs and peoples property did your dogs run through from YOUR club to there? Wow...you think you have a right for your dogs to go all that way through others lands?

Dude...sounds like a really selfish, immature, entitled way of looking at things. Wow!
slap

Well outdoor first of all they weren't my dogs. Secondly this 160" 12 point was using on our 2000 acre club moving only at night. This club was so thick we barely had any still hunting places at all. The only option we pretty much had was to dog hunt here!! To me if we were selfish we would have still hunted this place hoping that we eventually killed this and the other big bucks that were killed by hopefully crossing one of our roads. But rather our club decided to bring these dog hunting guys in over Christmas break and get the deer moving!! We were extremely happy that the guy 7 miles away killed that big buck, just as happy as he was. Without those dogs that deer would more than likely died of old age. So no I don't see how we were Selfish. The neighboring clubs around us, in which we had talked to them about bringing the dogs down were all happy that the dogs got the deer moving! There were several nice bucks killed during that Christmas vacation that in my opinion would have died of old age or spotlighters may have gotten at night. I love seeing deer taken by hunters rather than seeing them found dead in the woods by disease or old age. I guess I am really selfish and immature! Anyone that knows me can attest that statement isn't true!! Lol congrats on your big buck by the way!!


Your state of mind should be to not let the dogs get off of the land you are allowed to hunt. That is the problem dude.


It doesn't matter if it's 5 feet over your line or 7 miles, you are in the wrong. To sit here and argue why you are dog hunting is asinine.... nobody cares why you are dog hunting. Do you understand? If you had killed the monster 12 point within your boundaries we would all slap you on the back and tell you good job.

Well I guess my state of mind is how awesome that a fellow sportsman tagged a nice buck for the day!!! You guys are assuming that I am a dog deer hunter!! I never have or will own a deer dog. Hell I prefer to still hunt myself!! But that tract of land we was so thick that was the only way we seen as a club to be hunt able!! As did our neighboring clubs that we talked to prior to bringing those dogs down there!! I do however have 2 mountain curs that's 6 months old that I am trying to train to squirrel and coon hunt!!! Being a sport dog hunter I do feel for the guy that started this post as I know how much time and money is invested in sport dog hunting!!! We as sportsmen should support all of our brothers and sisters that are sportsmen even if they do hunt a different way! Because one day there may be some group trying to take away all our hunting privileges! Just think if no hunting was allowed Obama would say no weapons are needed at all!!! DUDE!!

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I hate dog hunting for many reasons, but the last one really got me. I caught a man's dog that was hanging around my house, driving my dogs insane, and I took it up to the road where I knew they would be looking for it and affixed it to my fence with MY dog chain so they could easily find it next to the road. He/they found it and took dog, CHAIN, and all!!! Pissed me OFF!!!


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Originally Posted By: outdoorobsession
Originally Posted By: JDawg
Originally Posted By: outdoorobsession
Originally Posted By: JDawg
Originally Posted By: BC
Originally Posted By: IDOT
[quote=JDawg]I know of a few guys that were still hunters that got lucky cause the neighboring club ran dogs. The dog club ran the deer right by the still hunters. I seen a nice 12 pt killed off our land one time that ran a little over 7 miles from our club land and a still hunter shot it. I think that hunter was tickled to death. Maybe those that want to shoot dogs that run big deer by them should just let those big bucks run right on by them as well!!


You just don't get it do you? rolleyes



No...... he's lost.


No I guess I don't, why don't you 2 enlighten me??


Sorry to interject...but I will enlighten you.

You state that this DEER ran SEVEN MILES From your club and a still hunter shot it on his club..7 miles away???

Really? You see no problem with any of that!

How many other clubs and peoples property did your dogs run through from YOUR club to there? Wow...you think you have a right for your dogs to go all that way through others lands?

Dude...sounds like a really selfish, immature, entitled way of looking at things. Wow!
slap

Well outdoor first of all they weren't my dogs. Secondly this 160" 12 point was using on our 2000 acre club moving only at night. This club was so thick we barely had any still hunting places at all. The only option we pretty much had was to dog hunt here!! To me if we were selfish we would have still hunted this place hoping that we eventually killed this and the other big bucks that were killed by hopefully crossing one of our roads. But rather our club decided to bring these dog hunting guys in over Christmas break and get the deer moving!! We were extremely happy that the guy 7 miles away killed that big buck, just as happy as he was. Without those dogs that deer would more than likely died of old age. So no I don't see how we were Selfish. The neighboring clubs around us, in which we had talked to them about bringing the dogs down were all happy that the dogs got the deer moving! There were several nice bucks killed during that Christmas vacation that in my opinion would have died of old age or spotlighters may have gotten at night. I love seeing deer taken by hunters rather than seeing them found dead in the woods by disease or old age. I guess I am really selfish and immature! Anyone that knows me can attest that statement isn't true!! Lol congrats on your big buck by the way!!


Thanks on my buck. Appreciate it.

Dont get me wrong. I dont shoot dogs...but they dont dog hunt around here either. I have hunted where dogs were on us every weekend and it was not enjoyable for us.

They show up at camp..hungry and miserable mid week sometimes. Had been out there all that time. Then Id have to round them up, even feed them, contact their owners etc.

I didnt like doing that..I was there to hunt.

people hunting these days..period... have got to have more respect for their neighbors and fellow hunters and get along in my opinion.

Its all about just shooting a dang deer and having fun. Not drama and stress. Dang..that crap takes the fun right outta hunting. [/quot

Oh I agree outdoor there has been plenty of guys I've seen drive up to other folks land and turn their dogs loose at the gate which I agree is totally wrong!!!! And that's what ruined the dog deer sport hunting!! And I totally agree with the one guy that stated beagles should be used! But that's his and my opinion!! Heck I wished those guys that brought dogs down to our club would have brought beagles down!! Maybe one of our own members would have gotten the monster buck!! Lol but it didn't happen that way and all I can say is congrats to the guy that got him!!

Re: dog shot [Re: coonhunter89] #1563252
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BigT it ain't about the kill. We do carry guns and try to kill one but its ok if they get away. They will be around to run tomorrow . We can't kill does in most places I hunt so it ain't just see deer and shoot. If it was just about the kill why would I spend all the time and money running every week that ain't turkey season. Why would anybody own a foxdog. It's about the chase. The only thing I like to hunt without a dog is turkeys. If it involves a dog , I'm down for it. I've carried a bunch of still hunters and they just don't get it. They want to kill something. If you want to kill a buck deer then dog hunting ain't for you. 10 will get away for every 1 that you kill. Fox hunting- there is no gun involved at all


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Re: dog shot [Re: hyco] #1563258
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Originally Posted By: hyco
BigT it ain't about the kill. We do carry guns and try to kill one but its ok if they get away. They will be around to run tomorrow . We can't kill does in most places I hunt so it ain't just see deer and shoot. If it was just about the kill why would I spend all the time and money running every week that ain't turkey season. Why would anybody own a foxdog. It's about the chase. The only thing I like to hunt without a dog is turkeys. If it involves a dog , I'm down for it. I've carried a bunch of still hunters and they just don't get it. They want to kill something. If you want to kill a buck deer then dog hunting ain't for you. 10 will get away for every 1 that you kill. Fox hunting- there is no gun involved at all


100's get away for every one I kill bow hunting. I don't get your point

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Well try bow hunting with dogs. There would never be one killed. The point is/was out of every 10 bucks that have been seen/confirmed before or during . 9 still manage to live another day. Still hunting I'd bet that less that 1 escape death during a hunting senerio.


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I ain't trying to argue which is harder. I usually kill 5 or 6 deer a year and 1 maybe 2 will be dog hunting. We're starting to get off topic. The point of this whole thread is some jackleg let his dog cross a property line and some other jackleg went and shot it. I'm tired of lazy ass dog hunters making it harder on me and folks like me that love to hear a dog bark. I spent way to much of my life doing this , not to say anything. I've spent way to much money on dogs and things that make them handle. Way to much time getting them to handle. Just so some lazy ass dog Hunter can ruin it for me. Folks we got this attitude that I use to hear the old timers talk about. It use to be about black folk. They'd say if the good black folk would stop sticking up for the sorry ones then they'd have to learn to do better. I ain't sticking up for sorry dog hunters anymore. Just ain't gonna do it. There's tools available to teach your dogs how to handle. I know within 10 feet of where mine are at any given time. I can see property lines on my GPS screen. There is no excuse anymore other than I just don't care.


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Re: dog shot [Re: hyco] #1563320
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Originally Posted By: hyco
BigT it ain't about the kill. We do carry guns and try to kill one but its ok if they get away. They will be around to run tomorrow . We can't kill does in most places I hunt so it ain't just see deer and shoot. If it was just about the kill why would I spend all the time and money running every week that ain't turkey season. Why would anybody own a foxdog. It's about the chase. The only thing I like to hunt without a dog is turkeys. If it involves a dog , I'm down for it. I've carried a bunch of still hunters and they just don't get it. They want to kill something. If you want to kill a buck deer then dog hunting ain't for you. 10 will get away for every 1 that you kill. Fox hunting- there is no gun involved at all

I grew up dog hunting and my wife's family was also into fox hunting so I do get the fun of the chase part. Also when I did dog hunt we didn't shoot does either and if the majority of dog hunters are still following that rule then that is a good thing. We also dog hunted as a club on the lease I have now until our landowner mandated that we stop in the early 90's, but I can tell we killed a lot more bucks dog hunting that we ever have still hunting. The main difference between then and now is that in most places the parcels of land is just not large enough to dog hunt properly anymore and instead of the majority of dog hunters pooling their money together and paying what it takes to lease large tracts of land they have tried dog hunting on smaller tracts and basically refusing to acknowledge that they themselves are part of the problem. Until dog hunters quit with the victim mentality and actively police their own rank and file instead of blindly defending every dog hunter in the State I believe it is just a matter of time before more and more places will be off limits to dog hunting. I do not want to see any legal form of hunt outlawed, but it is really the dog hunters job to do a better job of being good neighbors and denouncing those are not to keep this form of hunting alive.

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Re: dog shot [Re: hyco] #1563323
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Originally Posted By: hyco
Well try bow hunting with dogs. There would never be one killed. The point is/was out of every 10 bucks that have been seen/confirmed before or during . 9 still manage to live another day. Still hunting I'd bet that less that 1 escape death during a hunting senerio.

I would take that bet wink


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Re: dog shot [Re: hyco] #1563325
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Originally Posted By: hyco
I ain't trying to argue which is harder. I usually kill 5 or 6 deer a year and 1 maybe 2 will be dog hunting. We're starting to get off topic. The point of this whole thread is some jackleg let his dog cross a property line and some other jackleg went and shot it. I'm tired of lazy ass dog hunters making it harder on me and folks like me that love to hear a dog bark. I spent way to much of my life doing this , not to say anything. I've spent way to much money on dogs and things that make them handle. Way to much time getting them to handle. Just so some lazy ass dog Hunter can ruin it for me. Folks we got this attitude that I use to hear the old timers talk about. It use to be about black folk. They'd say if the good black folk would stop sticking up for the sorry ones then they'd have to learn to do better. I ain't sticking up for sorry dog hunters anymore. Just ain't gonna do it. There's tools available to teach your dogs how to handle. I know within 10 feet of where mine are at any given time. I can see property lines on my GPS screen. There is no excuse anymore other than I just don't care.


If the majority of dog hunters thought like you I would bet there would be very few disputes between stalk hunters and dog hunters. I hope your influence spreads smile


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Re: dog shot [Re: coonhunter89] #1563332
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I would highly recommend checking out the Gamin Alpha units. It’s an awesome little setup and its made to where you can run multiple dogs off of one handheld GPS unit. You have the ability to watch every dog and stop any of them any time you need to. I know some dogs react differently than others but the dogs that I’ve seen worked on the unit don’t even question it. You hit the beeper and they stop. I ain’t gonna lie though, your gonna have to come out of your wallet a little to get setup with it but it sure does change the ballgame concerning keeping up with dogs. The unit with one collar is $800. I’m not sure how much the individual collars cost but I’d imagine its $150-$200 maybe. You’re probably looking at $1000-$1500 depending on how many dogs you run. I know that’s a pretty good little chunk to invest but it would solve a lot of these issues with dog hunting.

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Actually, the collars are about $300 each. I keep 5 all the time. And, my dogs do not get turned out unless they have one on.

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We have but that's the thing most people don't realizes. You can turn the collar on and off. If they made it where the collar could not be turned off it would work. We are having people steal the collars to sorry

Re: dog shot [Re: hyco] #1563380
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Originally Posted By: hyco
Well try bow hunting with dogs. There would never be one killed. The point is/was out of every 10 bucks that have been seen/confirmed before or during . 9 still manage to live another day. Still hunting I'd bet that less that 1 escape death during a hunting senerio.


I'd rather not

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