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Re: People are obviously becoming educated...... [Re: Johnal3] #1579467
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Re: People are obviously becoming educated...... [Re: Clem] #1579712
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Bet the Paint Rock River is out and the creeks are rolling in the upper end of PRV , big and little coon. eek



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Re: People are obviously becoming educated...... [Re: Johnal3] #1580241
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I start running cameras in July. I pick out my biggest what I call resident deer for the year. These are my shooters, This year I had 3 on the list that I would have pulled the trigger on. 3 years ago I had a down year and I didnt have one deer that I would have been excited about shooting. Some years I have had 5. My area doesn't have a lot of agriculture so my expectations are not as high as some. I have went 3 years between bucks before and it is what it is. I have been lucky enough the last two years to kill the biggest I had on camera. One was a 130 inch 8 point, the other a 140 inch 10 point. It changes from year to year, but these type of deer are usually 3.5 or 4.5 years old in my area. I have a few good neighbors and some that shoot whatever moves. I checked cameras today and one of my shooters is back and is now off limits for me after killing the ten this year. Unless my kids get a shot at him. This is just what I do and it has worked for me. I would call myself a trophy hunter in my area. I just don't get any excitement out of killing small ones. If I had a shot at a deer I call that hunt successful. I don't have to pull the trigger.

Re: People are obviously becoming educated...... [Re: ] #1581057
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Originally Posted by outdoorobsession
Im in the same school of thought as Squeaky, Matt Brock, 2dogs and others.

Heck...well y'all know I AM a trophy hunter. And Im not ashamed to admit it.

I pass on a TON of bucks every year, many that are 3 yr olds and over 120 inches....but that is MY choice.
Heck, I even pass on 130 inch bucks in other states. Again, it is my choice.

However I also ONLY eat wild game I harvest....so If the season starts rolling down, Ill shoot a 3 yr 8 that scores 100 pretty quick before I go hungry.

With just my wife and I at home, 1 good buck or possibly 2 is all I need to eat. Since I only really need 1, then I CHOOSE to be really picky about that 1.

Luckily I also get A HUGE amount of time off during the season as I run my own businesses and would rather work long days before the season to bank time off. And luckily I own my own land.

So my choice is to WATCH deer...and not shoot them.

Sometimes I see 20 + deer a day..heck sometimes a sit..but dont shoot any. Some so close I can spit on em. Again, thats my choice.

Im usually just looking for that one good buck over 4 1/2 , usually one that I know and have watched grow or have pictures of. Thats the game I personally have liked to play. It is a hard game TO play...and pushes me to hunt better, harder, smarter.
It also provides me with A LOT more knowledge on deer, especially bigger bucks as I WATCH deer all the time, and really try to study and figure out big ones.

Im sorry, but young bucks do NOTHING for me. And I just dont shoot does PERIOD. Ive only shot 2 ever since I was 16. But again, that is my choice. It doesnt make me "better" than anyone else...It just means I dont like shooting does. Why is that bad?

But in the same regard I dont condemn others that have their own opinions and choices.
If people want to shoot young bucks or does..that THEIR CHOICE. Not mine.

I dont condemn them for it either. They may not get much time to hunt, or hunt tough hunting land without seeing many deer, or may have to feed a family of 8!

I dont know, and I really dont CARE.

However, what I dont get is why people CARE that I only want to shoot 1 or 2, and want them to be mature 4 1/2 year old or older.

Why does that make ME a bad guy? Why must I be condemned for being a "Trophy Hunter"?? Like its a bad word?

And why do so called "Meat hunters " even care??? I just leave more deer for them?

So my feeling is "to each their own".

Though I do like management minded neighbors and luckily have them, you "meat Hunters" go and enjoy yourselves. Yall dont bother me at all.

But please dont condemn us so called "Trophy Hunters" because we like to do things our way.

We all need to get a long and respect EACH OTHERS ways, without condemning each for theirs. Just my opinion.








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Re: People are obviously becoming educated...... [Re: Johnal3] #1581181
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Re: People are obviously becoming educated...... [Re: ] #1581224
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Originally Posted by outdoorobsession

And why do so called "Meat hunters " even care??? I just leave more deer for them?

I absolutely agree with all you said but I found this particular statement true and very funny!


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Re: People are obviously becoming educated...... [Re: cartervj] #1581278
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Originally Posted by cartervj



I second that! That article was very true.

Re: People are obviously becoming educated...... [Re: Bamabucks14] #1581280
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Originally Posted by Bamabucks14
Originally Posted by outdoorobsession

And why do so called "Meat hunters " even care??? I just leave more deer for them?

I absolutely agree with all you said but I found this particular statement true and very funny!


I've never seen a meat hunter truly bothered by a trophy hunter. We may think it's stupid but we don't have a fit when we hear a gunshot across the line either.


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Re: People are obviously becoming educated...... [Re: Beadlescomb] #1581291
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Originally Posted by Beadlescomb

Originally Posted by Bamabucks14
Originally Posted by outdoorobsession

And why do so called "Meat hunters " even care??? I just leave more deer for them?

I absolutely agree with all you said but I found this particular statement true and very funny!


I've never seen a meat hunter truly bothered by a trophy hunter. We may think it's stupid but we don't have a fit when we hear a gunshot across the line either.



I don't get pissed about a shot but when your neighbor shoots every day of gun season and he is hunting on less that 100acres. That's a problem. They are not eating all of that. They shoot them and take them to the processor and say " I would like to donate this deer". That's what I refer to as a "killer". Hunters for the hungry program is a great charity. It's has been an excuse for many to shoot the hell out of everything that looks like a deer.

Re: People are obviously becoming educated...... [Re: Beadlescomb] #1581399
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Originally Posted by Beadlescomb

. We may think it's stupid


What's stupid about trying to kill older deer instead of dinks?

Re: People are obviously becoming educated...... [Re: Beadlescomb] #1581448
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Originally Posted by Beadlescomb



I've never seen a meat hunter truly bothered by a trophy hunter. We may think it's stupid but we don't have a fit when we hear a gunshot across the line either.


You don't know the meat guys I know. Some of them, "trophy hunters" bug the hell out of. I'd like to have a dollar for each time I've heard one say " well if I could hunt there I'd kill big uns too." No they wouldn't . Only way they kill a big/old buck is if they see it before a spike or doe. Many of them it's not for meat, they just like to kill.



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Re: People are obviously becoming educated...... [Re: Beadlescomb] #1581449
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Originally Posted by Beadlescomb

Originally Posted by Bamabucks14
Originally Posted by outdoorobsession

And why do so called "Meat hunters " even care??? I just leave more deer for them?

I absolutely agree with all you said but I found this particular statement true and very funny!


I've never seen a meat hunter truly bothered by a trophy hunter. We may think it's stupid but we don't have a fit when we hear a gunshot across the line either.


You shouldn't have a fit when you're hunting public ground


Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!!
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Re: People are obviously becoming educated...... [Re: Beadlescomb] #1581556
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Originally Posted by Beadlescomb

Originally Posted by Bamabucks14
Originally Posted by outdoorobsession

And why do so called "Meat hunters " even care??? I just leave more deer for them?

I absolutely agree with all you said but I found this particular statement true and very funny!


I've never seen a meat hunter truly bothered by a trophy hunter. We may think it's stupid but we don't have a fit when we hear a gunshot across the line either.

And I don't either, and I also don't care how someone hunts. I got 3 does in the freezer right now so I'm good on meat, I focus on mature bucks now. Food comes first and I don't have any problem with that. But as stated above I do have one when guy goes out and shoot everyday and just uses the charity as a excuse to kill. Shoot blackbirds if that's all you want to do


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Re: People are obviously becoming educated...... [Re: March15] #1581598
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Originally Posted by March15
I think I'll shoot a spike for yelkca this year.


While you are at it go ahead and kill a few jakes and a hen or two this spring while your killing.

Re: People are obviously becoming educated...... [Re: gobbler] #1581603
12/27/15 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by gobbler
Originally Posted by outdoorobsession
Im in the same school of thought as Squeaky, Matt Brock, 2dogs and others.

Heck...well y'all know I AM a trophy hunter. And Im not ashamed to admit it.

I pass on a TON of bucks every year, many that are 3 yr olds and over 120 inches....but that is MY choice.
Heck, I even pass on 130 inch bucks in other states. Again, it is my choice.

However I also ONLY eat wild game I harvest....so If the season starts rolling down, Ill shoot a 3 yr 8 that scores 100 pretty quick before I go hungry.

With just my wife and I at home, 1 good buck or possibly 2 is all I need to eat. Since I only really need 1, then I CHOOSE to be really picky about that 1.

Luckily I also get A HUGE amount of time off during the season as I run my own businesses and would rather work long days before the season to bank time off. And luckily I own my own land.

So my choice is to WATCH deer...and not shoot them.

Sometimes I see 20 + deer a day..heck sometimes a sit..but dont shoot any. Some so close I can spit on em. Again, thats my choice.

Im usually just looking for that one good buck over 4 1/2 , usually one that I know and have watched grow or have pictures of. Thats the game I personally have liked to play. It is a hard game TO play...and pushes me to hunt better, harder, smarter.
It also provides me with A LOT more knowledge on deer, especially bigger bucks as I WATCH deer all the time, and really try to study and figure out big ones.

Im sorry, but young bucks do NOTHING for me. And I just dont shoot does PERIOD. Ive only shot 2 ever since I was 16. But again, that is my choice. It doesnt make me "better" than anyone else...It just means I dont like shooting does. Why is that bad?

But in the same regard I dont condemn others that have their own opinions and choices.
If people want to shoot young bucks or does..that THEIR CHOICE. Not mine.

I dont condemn them for it either. They may not get much time to hunt, or hunt tough hunting land without seeing many deer, or may have to feed a family of 8!

I dont know, and I really dont CARE.

However, what I dont get is why people CARE that I only want to shoot 1 or 2, and want them to be mature 4 1/2 year old or older.

Why does that make ME a bad guy? Why must I be condemned for being a "Trophy Hunter"?? Like its a bad word?

And why do so called "Meat hunters " even care??? I just leave more deer for them?

So my feeling is "to each their own".

Though I do like management minded neighbors and luckily have them, you "meat Hunters" go and enjoy yourselves. Yall dont bother me at all.

But please dont condemn us so called "Trophy Hunters" because we like to do things our way.

We all need to get a long and respect EACH OTHERS ways, without condemning each for theirs. Just my opinion.








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Hey Gobbler good to see you. Youve been keeping a low profile!

Re: People are obviously becoming educated...... [Re: Johnal3] #1581613
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Nothing wrong with shooting jakes. Legal and they eat well.


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Re: People are obviously becoming educated...... [Re: Clem] #1581635
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Originally Posted by Clem

Nothing wrong with shooting jakes. Legal and they eat well.


My boys both under ten won't shoot a jake. That's like screwing your sister. It just ain't right.

Re: People are obviously becoming educated...... [Re: Johnal3] #1581640
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Good for them. Shooting a jake ain't illegal. It's only "bad" thanks to trophy hunters pushing their ideas on others.



How has Mississippi's turkey population fared biologically since the implementation of the 6-inch beard minimum imposed by the state wildlife agency? Far better? More mature gobblers? Healthier population? Or were there really that many sub-6 birds being killed every year to warrant - biologically - such a regulation?

I don't shoot jakes. But I don't insult, make fun of or tell someone else they shouldn't.

Last edited by Clem; 12/27/15 09:45 AM.

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Re: People are obviously becoming educated...... [Re: yelkca280] #1581690
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Originally Posted by yelkca280
Originally Posted by March15
I think I'll shoot a spike for yelkca this year.


While you are at it go ahead and kill a few jakes and a hen or two this spring while your killing.


So it's not ok for me to make comment that is considered an insult but it's ok for others to do so. KMA

Re: People are obviously becoming educated...... [Re: ] #1581701
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Originally Posted by outdoorobsession
Originally Posted by gobbler
Originally Posted by outdoorobsession
Im in the same school of thought as Squeaky, Matt Brock, 2dogs and others.

Heck...well y'all know I AM a trophy hunter. And Im not ashamed to admit it.

I pass on a TON of bucks every year, many that are 3 yr olds and over 120 inches....but that is MY choice.
Heck, I even pass on 130 inch bucks in other states. Again, it is my choice.

However I also ONLY eat wild game I harvest....so If the season starts rolling down, Ill shoot a 3 yr 8 that scores 100 pretty quick before I go hungry.

With just my wife and I at home, 1 good buck or possibly 2 is all I need to eat. Since I only really need 1, then I CHOOSE to be really picky about that 1.

Luckily I also get A HUGE amount of time off during the season as I run my own businesses and would rather work long days before the season to bank time off. And luckily I own my own land.

So my choice is to WATCH deer...and not shoot them.

Sometimes I see 20 + deer a day..heck sometimes a sit..but dont shoot any. Some so close I can spit on em. Again, thats my choice.

Im usually just looking for that one good buck over 4 1/2 , usually one that I know and have watched grow or have pictures of. Thats the game I personally have liked to play. It is a hard game TO play...and pushes me to hunt better, harder, smarter.
It also provides me with A LOT more knowledge on deer, especially bigger bucks as I WATCH deer all the time, and really try to study and figure out big ones.

Im sorry, but young bucks do NOTHING for me. And I just dont shoot does PERIOD. Ive only shot 2 ever since I was 16. But again, that is my choice. It doesnt make me "better" than anyone else...It just means I dont like shooting does. Why is that bad?

But in the same regard I dont condemn others that have their own opinions and choices.
If people want to shoot young bucks or does..that THEIR CHOICE. Not mine.

I dont condemn them for it either. They may not get much time to hunt, or hunt tough hunting land without seeing many deer, or may have to feed a family of 8!

I dont know, and I really dont CARE.

However, what I dont get is why people CARE that I only want to shoot 1 or 2, and want them to be mature 4 1/2 year old or older.

Why does that make ME a bad guy? Why must I be condemned for being a "Trophy Hunter"?? Like its a bad word?

And why do so called "Meat hunters " even care??? I just leave more deer for them?

So my feeling is "to each their own".

Though I do like management minded neighbors and luckily have them, you "meat Hunters" go and enjoy yourselves. Yall dont bother me at all.

But please dont condemn us so called "Trophy Hunters" because we like to do things our way.

We all need to get a long and respect EACH OTHERS ways, without condemning each for theirs. Just my opinion.








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Hey Gobbler good to see you. Youve been keeping a low profile!


Well said outdoorobession! There is a difference between being a trophy hunter and DEMANDING everybody else be a "trophy hunter"!


"After all, it is not the killing that brings satisfaction; it is the contest of skill and cunning. The true hunter counts his achievement in proportion to the effort involved and the fairness of the sport." Dr. Saxton Pope
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