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Bama deer a different breed?
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01/04/16 01:18 PM
01/04/16 01:18 PM
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MarksOutdoors
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I have noticed people that have hunted outside of the deep, deep South say that the deer in other states respond more favorably toward decoys, rattling, grunts and bleats than they do here. Maybe it's their smaller stature? Does anyone have theories or data as to why?
Last edited by MarksOutdoors; 01/04/16 01:20 PM.
"The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him." -G. K. Chesterton
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Re: Bama deer a different breed?
[Re: MarksOutdoors]
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01/04/16 01:36 PM
01/04/16 01:36 PM
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Bait57
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I am a transplant here in Alabama. I am from Va. I typically did not have any luck in calling deer. However I have had good luck in Ohio, Illinois and Kentucky. Maybe it's the population, Buck/doe ratio or whatever. I personally don't mess with calling down here. When I'm in the Midwest it's a different story. But it's just me
I would rather be tried by 12, than carried by 6.
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Re: Bama deer a different breed?
[Re: Buckedoutagain3]
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01/04/16 02:01 PM
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Deer are hunted hard here from spots to pots. They are very smart. this
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Re: Bama deer a different breed?
[Re: MarksOutdoors]
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01/04/16 02:10 PM
01/04/16 02:10 PM
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outdoorobsession
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the midwest states have short seasons. Illinois only a 3 day firearm opener, then a 4 day 2nd season.
They also restrict you to shotgun or muzzleloader and limit effective range to 200 yards or under..
In Alabama deer are hunted for 2 1/2 months with rifles.
A huge difference in pressure!
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Re: Bama deer a different breed?
[Re: Buckedoutagain3]
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01/04/16 02:12 PM
01/04/16 02:12 PM
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Deer are hunted hard here from spots to pots. They are very smart. Agreed.
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Re: Bama deer a different breed?
[Re: MarksOutdoors]
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01/04/16 02:18 PM
01/04/16 02:18 PM
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Bait57
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That's correct on Illinois. I have two farms I hunt there.
I would rather be tried by 12, than carried by 6.
Famous redneck last words -- Hey y'all watch this... Hold my beer.
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Re: Bama deer a different breed?
[Re: MarksOutdoors]
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01/04/16 02:27 PM
01/04/16 02:27 PM
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Its definately a pressure thing. When I hunted IL. any type of calling worked for the most part. Down here, deer learn quick.
What you do today, you have to sleep with tonight.
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Re: Bama deer a different breed?
[Re: MarksOutdoors]
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01/04/16 03:19 PM
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I think its a combination of pressure, buck to doe ratio, and I believe they are just smarter than most and wily. I'm comparing them to whitetails I've hunted from NJ to FL to WY. I grew up in NC/VA and they respond very well to grunts and rattling, and definitely aren't as spooky as AL/FL deer. Illinois/Ohio/Nebraska deer (just my opinion from experience) are not as spooky. I think they are not pressured as much and just seem big and dumb at times. It seems you have to put in the time here and you'd better do your homework if you want to kill that 4+ year old deer.
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Re: Bama deer a different breed?
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01/04/16 03:50 PM
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I think deer in Ohio, for instance, are much more comfortable stepping out into fields since they already have much less cover. When I was there in October, I saw less wooded area in two weeks than I see in one day in Alabama.
"The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him." -G. K. Chesterton
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Re: Bama deer a different breed?
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01/04/16 04:00 PM
01/04/16 04:00 PM
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Deer are hunted hard here from spots to pots. They are very smart. Agreed. I've never seen deer act like they do here. Even in neighboring states, the deer are much less on edge and are much easier to kill. In my opinion, the deer here in Bama are some of the smartest creatures in the lower 48.
Ya'll are just overthinking it now
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Re: Bama deer a different breed?
[Re: MarksOutdoors]
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01/04/16 04:59 PM
01/04/16 04:59 PM
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Bait57
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As far as public land goes here I have been amazed at all the dang roads going through it. I Va they ain't but a few roads and you can walk for miles and miles in the mountains.
Pressure is key there as it is everywhere. Other areas I've been don't have as many "road hunters" and people not willing to walk. So if you don't mind to walk and get away from everybody then you could usually increase your odds.
I would rather be tried by 12, than carried by 6.
Famous redneck last words -- Hey y'all watch this... Hold my beer.
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Re: Bama deer a different breed?
[Re: FullPotential]
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01/04/16 11:16 PM
01/04/16 11:16 PM
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If only Alabama would wake up and follow the midwest states. 10 day firearms season, archery only the rest of the season, 2 deer limit of 1 buck and 1 doe. Start this in 2016 and by 2020 people would be amazed at how many more deer they were seeing, some giant deer would be killed and they would respond to rattling and grunting just like they do in the midwest.
EXACTLY!!!
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