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Re: Ted Cruz guys [Re: Bwood] #1609347
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Originally Posted By: Bwood
Originally Posted By: jawbone
I'd rather relive the Bush days than have Bernie as president. I'd rather have pretty much any president in our history again than have a communist. Well, I'd have to think hard if it were the current one as the option. That would be the epitome of a dilemma.


How is Bernie a communist? Other than free college and universal healthcare which would both be great but we are to broke to afford. What else do you know about him? YAll keep saying that and throwing out the word socialist communist but I seriously doubt yall have any clue about what he stands for.



Young man I try not to be a jackass on here to anybody but it's your generation that scares the crap out of me when it comes time to elect a President. What part of big government don't you understand? There ain't anything in life free!


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Re: Ted Cruz guys [Re: leroycnbucks] #1609359
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Originally Posted By: leroycnbucks
Originally Posted By: Bwood
Originally Posted By: jawbone
I'd rather relive the Bush days than have Bernie as president. I'd rather have pretty much any president in our history again than have a communist. Well, I'd have to think hard if it were the current one as the option. That would be the epitome of a dilemma.


How is Bernie a communist? Other than free college and universal healthcare which would both be great but we are to broke to afford. What else do you know about him? YAll keep saying that and throwing out the word socialist communist but I seriously doubt yall have any clue about what he stands for.



Young man I try not to be a jackass on here to anybody but it's your generation that scares the crap out of me when it comes time to elect a President. What part of big government don't you understand? There ain't anything in life free!


When I closed my business and helped a friend regrow his, the young folks we hired had no clue.
They thought they were owed everything for being there, much less having to work for it.

I read about millennials and how to get them to actually work for you etc... CNBC had specials on it. The way they look at things is different than the older generations.

Several studies was done and one actual question was

Would you take a pay raise or would you prefer to have time during work for your online social life?

guess what most millennials answer was


“Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already have it.” ― Ronald Reagan
Re: Ted Cruz guys [Re: leroycnbucks] #1609371
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Good sir when did I ever say I agreed with his free school or minimum wage? I said socially I agree with him and Rand not neccesarilly fiscally. Said that numerous times. I would agree with him on the fiscal issues but we are not at place where we can afford those things. Bush didnt help us much on that front. Minimum wage will never be $15 and college will not be free in my lifetime its not possible so why would I spend my time focusing on that. It wont happen

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Originally Posted By: Bwood
Bernie and Rand are the only two people that will truly help the middle class.


Let's focus on your opening sentence. Please give some specific examples of what makes this true. You portray yourself to be very well informed of all the candidates, so it should be easy.

Also, Please give some examples that makes this untrue about Ted Cruz.

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Re: Ted Cruz guys [Re: Bwood] #1609378
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Originally Posted By: Bwood
Originally Posted By: Ben2
Originally Posted By: Bwood
Originally Posted By: Ben2
Originally Posted By: Bwood
whats scary or incorrect about what i said?


Everything about what you said is scary. Without a wall we are in trouble. Too many wackos want to kill us. With the gay agenda pushed everywhere we are destroying the family unit which will cause complete disfunction through out the country eventually.

I don't hate anyone for their way of life but refuse to accept it as normal and show it to my kids as okay when it is not. I hope they all have a change of heart one day.


I appreciate the civilized debate... But man you think a wall is gonna prevent wackos from killing? I dont get that? Gay people dont just have a change of heart and decide not to be gay anymore. Iv explained on here before gay people dont just run around trying to get people to be gay. Nobody just wakes up one day and says damn id really like to stop having sex with women today, because i think dudes look good. I think what your issue with the gay and wall stuff is a lack of understanding no offense or anything. I would venture to say you havent been around many if any gay people or mexicans. Also what is the gay agenda?


Had a good friend decide to be gay at age of 19. Been friends with him for years before and after, he finally had a change of heart and is no longer living that lifestyle. He made the choice just like we do. Gay agenda is that every tv show/commercial has a gay couple in it, people are portrayed to be heroes because they are gay, etc etc.


Not trying to be an arse but there is no way that is true.


Every word of it is true. Gay people choose to become straight all the time/ straight people choose to become gay all the time. There is no gay gene you are born with. I don't take it as you being an ass I take it as you claim one thought process based on your views and opinions and I claim another based on mine. There is no factual born gay science to deny it or prove it. You say it's not possible yet it happens daily dont call me a liar unless you can prove it.
We agree to disagree fair enough.

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Crap, I jumped off topic again. Carry on.

Re: Ted Cruz guys [Re: Bwood] #1609382
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Originally Posted By: Bwood
Gay people dont just have a change of heart and decide not to be gay anymore.


Actually many have had a change or heart and left that lifestyle, because they allowed God to change their heart. There are many, many, gays who are now in heterosexual marriages with families as a result of surrendering their lives to Christ.

You also say that one man can only do so much so your not worried about all his socialist ideas, but then you say you're excited about his other views crazy
Why would you be any more excited about them if he doesn't have the power to implement them?

You don't have to look any further than Obama to see how much damage one man and his minions can do when given the power. They have almost dismantled the constitution of this country in less than 8 years, so don't tell me "one man can only do so much", he can continue to implement the socialistic policies that Obama has started.

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Bwood, you'll get murdered on here if you speak out against the Republican party. I'm not a Democrat, and believe more in Republican values and vote Republican, BUT, I AM NOT BLIND and see what both parties, MOSTLY REPUBLICANS want for America. Obama is a MORON!!!!, and so is Bernie Sanders, but ANYBODY that thinks hard work, a good work ethic, and the '' american dream '' is alive is blind. The WHOLE system is rigged to keep money in 1 place, and for those that reach that 1 place. LOOK at the wage disparity in every publicly traded company in America. EVERYTHING is geared towards the quarterly earnings call, and if EVERY publicly trade company in THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA miraculously had a 5000000% increase in PROFIT, LESS THAN 1% of it would go to the middle class worker. The guys on the board, and those with a 7 figure salary would instantly start trying to make that increase 500000.01% after '' THEY '' paid themselves an extra 49999% of that increase, REGARDLESS of the middle class guy working every day that put effort into that profit.

FYI, If you own your own business, no need to reply and bash me, this post is NOT directed at you. You OWN your personal business, and can do as you please.

Re: Ted Cruz guys [Re: cartervj] #1609388
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Originally Posted By: cartervj
Originally Posted By: leroycnbucks
Originally Posted By: Bwood
Originally Posted By: jawbone
I'd rather relive the Bush days than have Bernie as president. I'd rather have pretty much any president in our history again than have a communist. Well, I'd have to think hard if it were the current one as the option. That would be the epitome of a dilemma.


How is Bernie a communist? Other than free college and universal healthcare which would both be great but we are to broke to afford. What else do you know about him? YAll keep saying that and throwing out the word socialist communist but I seriously doubt yall have any clue about what he stands for.



Young man I try not to be a jackass on here to anybody but it's your generation that scares the crap out of me when it comes time to elect a President. What part of big government don't you understand? There ain't anything in life free!


When I closed my business and helped a friend regrow his, the young folks we hired had no clue.
They thought they were owed everything for being there, much less having to work for it.

I read about millennials and how to get them to actually work for you etc... CNBC had specials on it. The way they look at things is different than the older generations.

Several studies was done and one actual question was

Would you take a pay raise or would you prefer to have time during work for your online social life?

guess what most millennials answer was


That statement is such a copout. No offense (i respect my elders) But yalls generation got us in this mess ( Im not blaming you in particular just in general). Brainwashed our generation into the thought process of if you dont go to college you cant succeed. As a result the debt from student loans is absolutely absurd. Im proud to say I dont have a degree yet still am surviving. Lets not forget the numerous wars that have bankrupted our country. As a result of yalls generation voting for the last few presidents. I have voted republican the last 2 elections and bush where did that get us? no where.. Millenials will be the deciding factor in this election hate to break it to yall. To say that all milennials are lazy ignorant and wont work is extremely ignorant. Every generation throughout history has had groups of entitled citizens.

But I will say my generation is not as patient especially at work so you do have a point there!

Re: Ted Cruz guys [Re: MorningAir] #1609390
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Originally Posted By: MorningAir
Bwood, you'll get murdered on here if you speak out against the Republican party. I'm not a Democrat, and believe more in Republican values and vote Republican, BUT, I AM NOT BLIND and see what both parties, MOSTLY REPUBLICANS want for America. Obama is a MORON!!!!, and so is Bernie Sanders, but ANYBODY that thinks hard work, a good work ethic, and the '' american dream '' is alive is blind. The WHOLE system is rigged to keep money in 1 place, and for those that reach that 1 place. LOOK at the wage disparity in every publicly traded company in America. EVERYTHING is geared towards the quarterly earnings call, and if EVERY publicly trade company in THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA miraculously had a 5000000% increase in PROFIT, LESS THAN 1% of it would go to the middle class worker. The guys on the board, and those with a 7 figure salary would instantly start trying to make that increase 500000.01% after '' THEY '' paid themselves an extra 49999% of that increase, REGARDLESS of the middle class guy working every day that put effort into that profit.

FYI, If you own your own business, no need to reply and bash me, this post is NOT directed at you. You OWN your personal business, and can do as you please.


Most of us here are sick of both parties!

Re: Ted Cruz guys [Re: Ben2] #1609393
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Originally Posted By: Ben2
Originally Posted By: Bwood
Originally Posted By: Ben2
Originally Posted By: Bwood
Originally Posted By: Ben2
Originally Posted By: Bwood
whats scary or incorrect about what i said?


Everything about what you said is scary. Without a wall we are in trouble. Too many wackos want to kill us. With the gay agenda pushed everywhere we are destroying the family unit which will cause complete disfunction through out the country eventually.

I don't hate anyone for their way of life but refuse to accept it as normal and show it to my kids as okay when it is not. I hope they all have a change of heart one day.


I appreciate the civilized debate... But man you think a wall is gonna prevent wackos from killing? I dont get that? Gay people dont just have a change of heart and decide not to be gay anymore. Iv explained on here before gay people dont just run around trying to get people to be gay. Nobody just wakes up one day and says damn id really like to stop having sex with women today, because i think dudes look good. I think what your issue with the gay and wall stuff is a lack of understanding no offense or anything. I would venture to say you havent been around many if any gay people or mexicans. Also what is the gay agenda?


Had a good friend decide to be gay at age of 19. Been friends with him for years before and after, he finally had a change of heart and is no longer living that lifestyle. He made the choice just like we do. Gay agenda is that every tv show/commercial has a gay couple in it, people are portrayed to be heroes because they are gay, etc etc.


Not trying to be an arse but there is no way that is true.


Every word of it is true. Gay people choose to become straight all the time/ straight people choose to become gay all the time. There is no gay gene you are born with. I don't take it as you being an ass I take it as you claim one thought process based on your views and opinions and I claim another based on mine. There is no factual born gay science to deny it or prove it. You say it's not possible yet it happens daily dont call me a liar unless you can prove it.
We agree to disagree fair enough.


Haha if their was science to back this up I would display it but it doesnt exist. So we agree to disaagree Roll tide!

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Originally Posted By: Bwood
Originally Posted By: Ben2
Originally Posted By: Bwood
Originally Posted By: Ben2
Originally Posted By: Bwood
Originally Posted By: Ben2
Originally Posted By: Bwood
whats scary or incorrect about what i said?


Everything about what you said is scary. Without a wall we are in trouble. Too many wackos want to kill us. With the gay agenda pushed everywhere we are destroying the family unit which will cause complete disfunction through out the country eventually.

I don't hate anyone for their way of life but refuse to accept it as normal and show it to my kids as okay when it is not. I hope they all have a change of heart one day.


I appreciate the civilized debate... But man you think a wall is gonna prevent wackos from killing? I dont get that? Gay people dont just have a change of heart and decide not to be gay anymore. Iv explained on here before gay people dont just run around trying to get people to be gay. Nobody just wakes up one day and says damn id really like to stop having sex with women today, because i think dudes look good. I think what your issue with the gay and wall stuff is a lack of understanding no offense or anything. I would venture to say you havent been around many if any gay people or mexicans. Also what is the gay agenda?


Had a good friend decide to be gay at age of 19. Been friends with him for years before and after, he finally had a change of heart and is no longer living that lifestyle. He made the choice just like we do. Gay agenda is that every tv show/commercial has a gay couple in it, people are portrayed to be heroes because they are gay, etc etc.


Not trying to be an arse but there is no way that is true.


Every word of it is true. Gay people choose to become straight all the time/ straight people choose to become gay all the time. There is no gay gene you are born with. I don't take it as you being an ass I take it as you claim one thought process based on your views and opinions and I claim another based on mine. There is no factual born gay science to deny it or prove it. You say it's not possible yet it happens daily dont call me a liar unless you can prove it.
We agree to disagree fair enough.


Haha if their was science to back this up I would display it but it doesnt exist. So we agree to disaagree Roll tide!


Roll Tide

Re: Ted Cruz guys [Re: MorningAir] #1609398
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Originally Posted By: MorningAir
Bwood, you'll get murdered on here if you speak out against the Republican party.


Are you blind or just can't read?

We have been hammering the Republican party and especially the establishment for years on this board.

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But Rands tax plan is by far my favorite I just dont think he will get elected or be able to implement the plan.

Cruz just seems like such a sleez ball and seems to be unbelievably disingenuous. He is a constitutionalist which is huge for me, but thats not enough for me to vote for him

Re: Ted Cruz guys [Re: scrubbuck] #1609421
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Originally Posted By: scrubbuck
Originally Posted By: Bwood
Bernie and Rand are the only two people that will truly help the middle class.


Let's focus on your opening sentence. Please give some specific examples of what makes this true. You portray yourself to be very well informed of all the candidates, so it should be easy.

Also, Please give some examples that makes this untrue about Ted Cruz.


Ok Bwood, I ask again...

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Missing the vote and making an excuse is pretty crappy but not disclosing the Goldman Sachs loan and claiming it to just be an "oversight" is starting to make Ted look like your typical politician.

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Originally Posted By: JAT50
Missing the vote and making an excuse is pretty crappy but not disclosing the Goldman Sachs loan and claiming it to just be an "oversight" is starting to make Ted look like your typical politician.


Still the best option we got regardless of two poor decisions. If that's the worst he does i will be happy and he will still get my vote.

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Originally Posted By: Ben2
Originally Posted By: JAT50
Missing the vote and making an excuse is pretty crappy but not disclosing the Goldman Sachs loan and claiming it to just be an "oversight" is starting to make Ted look like your typical politician.


Still the best option we got regardless of two poor decisions. If that's the worst he does i will be happy and he will still get my vote.


If its down to Cruz and Trump no other choice im 1000% cruz...... But hes so much of a lesser evil than trump!

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Originally Posted By: Bwood
I agree he has socialistic ideas but when voting for president yo have to understand that they can only do so much.


Yeah, it's not like they can just issue Executive Orders and say to heck with the Senate and House.

Oh wait..... crazy


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Keep in mind that there is a lot of time left for Hillary and Jeb to create lies, buy-off the right people, rig votes, frame the other candidates, and have folks assassinated. The election is a long way away.


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