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Re: for the dick heads that like to shoot dogs let this be a lesson
[Re: Atoler]
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01/15/16 06:38 PM
01/15/16 06:38 PM
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Old Florida
Geno
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Booner
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 12,918
Old Florida
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Not losing any material things? How much money do you think most people have wrapped up into any given hunt?
Better yet, let me ask you this, what recourse do we have to deal with these dogs?
I have a place where I've seen dogs 4 of the 6 times I've hunted this year. It's the same 3 dogs each time, and I know who owns them. After the first time, I went and put a note on his door asking him to keep them up. The third time I saw them, he was at about 1000 yds working on his driveway where it crosses the power line. He let them out, and they took off my direction, spent several hours running deer, walking around my fields, etc. then. Went home. The last time I saw them, they came running out of the woods and spooked 4 does. Then about an hour later they came running through pushing a deer. About another hour later they came back through pushing a different deer. Every deer I saw that day was affected by them. At that point I tried to catch them because I was gonna take them to the pound as far away from there as I could. They took off running as soon as I got close. So what should I do next time??? What recourse do u have? The owner obviously doesn't care about them....
My licenses costs about 40 dollars. Is this a trick question? The same recourse as you have for any crime. 1.) Get evidence. 2.) Prosecute the owner. 3.) Profit. Do you truly think the dogs had some sort of bad intention toward you? Do you think they even knew you were there? Do you think they were doing anything other than trying to make a living as a dog and doing the best they could with what they have to work with? You can probably legally shoot them. You can not legally shoot them. You can't sue them, because that takes more of your time and money to pursue. Not only that but the vast vast majority don't have enough money to be worth sueing. And you cannot legally have them cited because it isn't against the law. Hopefully you are joking with the $40 comment. But I'll break it down for you. Let's say an average lease is $1500. You have another $250 wrapped up in specific costs for license, ammo, etc. add in fuel costs for a season. One time costs for equipment that is reusable. Just at face value you would tally up $100+ a hunt for an average hunters expense. And that isn't including the value of their time. Now let's put it in perspective. How much damage does a single deer do to a farmers crop? Probably not as much $ as a dog does to a hunter. Yet farmers can get permits to eradicate the deer. A dog is an extension of its owner. It is the owners responsibility. Your liberal ass would be opposed to reprimanding a first grader for cussing I assume???? They don't know any better and I'm sure they picked the words up from their parents, so technically it isn't their fault...... Smdh And your too busy to take it up with a court of law? Then quit yer b!tchin. If it's important enough to take a life over, then it's important enough to spend a little time making things right. Or, in your case - maybe not. You're something. Why should it be my responsibility to spend the money and time on a lawyer and court costs, when I would never receive any of it back, regardless of whether I won the suit? Have any idea how much it would cost? Doe killer would have a better idea, but u can pretty much tell you, you aren't taking a lawyer with you to court for less than $5k. Why should I have the responsibility of paying that much money and my associated loss of income through time spent, to enforce someone else' responsibilities ? Because that's how the law works? You're really that dense?
Whoever is happy will make others happy too. Anne Frank
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Re: for the dick heads that like to shoot dogs let this be a lesson
[Re: Geno]
#1612669
01/15/16 07:24 PM
01/15/16 07:24 PM
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Posts: 8,377
Gulfcrest
bigt
14 point
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14 point
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 8,377
Gulfcrest
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Not losing any material things? How much money do you think most people have wrapped up into any given hunt?
Better yet, let me ask you this, what recourse do we have to deal with these dogs?
I have a place where I've seen dogs 4 of the 6 times I've hunted this year. It's the same 3 dogs each time, and I know who owns them. After the first time, I went and put a note on his door asking him to keep them up. The third time I saw them, he was at about 1000 yds working on his driveway where it crosses the power line. He let them out, and they took off my direction, spent several hours running deer, walking around my fields, etc. then. Went home. The last time I saw them, they came running out of the woods and spooked 4 does. Then about an hour later they came running through pushing a deer. About another hour later they came back through pushing a different deer. Every deer I saw that day was affected by them. At that point I tried to catch them because I was gonna take them to the pound as far away from there as I could. They took off running as soon as I got close. So what should I do next time??? What recourse do u have? The owner obviously doesn't care about them....
My licenses costs about 40 dollars. Is this a trick question? The same recourse as you have for any crime. 1.) Get evidence. 2.) Prosecute the owner. 3.) Profit. Do you truly think the dogs had some sort of bad intention toward you? Do you think they even knew you were there? Do you think they were doing anything other than trying to make a living as a dog and doing the best they could with what they have to work with? You can probably legally shoot them. You can not legally shoot them. You can't sue them, because that takes more of your time and money to pursue. Not only that but the vast vast majority don't have enough money to be worth sueing. And you cannot legally have them cited because it isn't against the law. Hopefully you are joking with the $40 comment. But I'll break it down for you. Let's say an average lease is $1500. You have another $250 wrapped up in specific costs for license, ammo, etc. add in fuel costs for a season. One time costs for equipment that is reusable. Just at face value you would tally up $100+ a hunt for an average hunters expense. And that isn't including the value of their time. Now let's put it in perspective. How much damage does a single deer do to a farmers crop? Probably not as much $ as a dog does to a hunter. Yet farmers can get permits to eradicate the deer. A dog is an extension of its owner. It is the owners responsibility. Your liberal ass would be opposed to reprimanding a first grader for cussing I assume???? They don't know any better and I'm sure they picked the words up from their parents, so technically it isn't their fault...... Smdh And your too busy to take it up with a court of law? Then quit yer b!tchin. If it's important enough to take a life over, then it's important enough to spend a little time making things right. Or, in your case - maybe not. You're something. Why should it be my responsibility to spend the money and time on a lawyer and court costs, when I would never receive any of it back, regardless of whether I won the suit? Have any idea how much it would cost? Doe killer would have a better idea, but u can pretty much tell you, you aren't taking a lawyer with you to court for less than $5k. Why should I have the responsibility of paying that much money and my associated loss of income through time spent, to enforce someone else' responsibilities ? Because that's how the law works? You're really that dense? Hey Geno do you ever post over on BB.com?
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Re: for the dick heads that like to shoot dogs let this be a lesson
[Re: Beadlescomb]
#1612865
01/16/16 03:59 AM
01/16/16 03:59 AM
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Posts: 39,475
Marshall County
FurFlyin
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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Marshall County
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I can't believe any of you would shoot a dog, you heartless monsters!
If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
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Re: for the dick heads that like to shoot dogs let this be a lesson
[Re: Beadlescomb]
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01/16/16 04:00 AM
01/16/16 04:00 AM
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Posts: 39,475
Marshall County
FurFlyin
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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Posts: 39,475
Marshall County
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I've killed more dogs than parvo. I don't remember ever killing one while hunting but I've thought about it. I've killed several in the cow pasture. I've had so many problems with dogs harassing and injuring cattle if one is in the pasture and even looks funny at a cow, it dead.
If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
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Re: for the dick heads that like to shoot dogs let this be a lesson
[Re: FurFlyin]
#1612873
01/16/16 04:02 AM
01/16/16 04:02 AM
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Posts: 52,021
Round ‘bout there
Clem
Mildly Quirky
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Mildly Quirky
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 52,021
Round ‘bout there
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I've killed more dogs than parvo. Top 25 contender, for sure. Glad I wasn't drinking coffee when I read it.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Re: for the ones that like to shoot dogs let this be a lesson
[Re: Beadlescomb]
#1612987
01/16/16 05:47 AM
01/16/16 05:47 AM
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Posts: 44,211
North Alabama
Wiley Coyote
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 44,211
North Alabama
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Got dogs running on my place in Marshall County this morning. I only have 13 acres and this may not end well for them. I've warned the dogs owner time and time again.
I firmly believe that a double gallows should be constructed on the East Lawn of The White House. Politicians who willfully and shamelessly violate their oath to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States of America should be swiftly tried and, upon conviction, publicly hanged at sunup the day after conviction. If multiple convicts are to be hanged they can choose with whom to share the gallows or names shall be drawn from the hangman's hat to be hanged 2 at a time.
NRA Life Member
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Re: for the dick heads that like to shoot dogs let this be a lesson
[Re: Clem]
#1613025
01/16/16 06:36 AM
01/16/16 06:36 AM
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Posts: 3,257
N. Alabama
Reyn
10 point
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10 point
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 3,257
N. Alabama
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Re: for the ones that like to shoot dogs let this be a lesson
[Re: Beadlescomb]
#1613046
01/16/16 07:09 AM
01/16/16 07:09 AM
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Posts: 36,486
alabama
BhamFred
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 36,486
alabama
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folks get killed for shooting other folks dogs....seen it myself. Dead as hell dead.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: for the ones that like to shoot dogs let this be a lesson
[Re: Beadlescomb]
#1613065
01/16/16 07:41 AM
01/16/16 07:41 AM
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Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 31,681
Slidell, La
perchjerker
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 31,681
Slidell, La
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Fish all you and Geno have done is condemn the hunters. You have no remedies or anger for owners that don't do their part.You only bitch about the hunters. If a hunter has contacted the owner several times what do you expect ? If the owner doesn't care why should you ?
Thomas Jefferson. The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
Life is too short to only hunt and fish on weekends!
If being a dumbass was fatal some of you would be on your death bed!
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