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Re: Maybe We Do Need February Hunt [Re: ikillbux] #1643865
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Originally Posted By: ikillbux
We've got to answer the question "Why?" Why do you want February hunting?

Because it makes it easier? (I disagree, but that's another argument)

Because you want to see Outdoor Channel deer behavior? (as if you're guaranteed to see it)

Because you don't see bucks otherwise? (So what you're telling me is for 3-1/2 months you couldn't see a buck?) This is the worst answer to me, do NOT tell me this and expect me to be persuaded.

Because you want to see rutting activity? Why???? Why does it matter??? If you CAN see a buck(s) from Oct 15 thru Jan 31(and you CAN!!), what does it matter if you see a buck chasing a doe on Feb 10??? This is a grossly selfish and misguided reason.

And to the guys who say "we hunt turkeys when they gobble", I'd say "yes, but we haven't already been hunting them for 3-1/2 months prior to gobbling." As a young man, I easily killed as many longbeards in the Fall season as I did in the Spring.

Quit being selfish and abusing the resource. Get out of your over-pressured club, get off the food plots, get out of the shooting houses and ladder stands. I don't see bucks when I hunt like that either!!! Quit goofing up the season for those of us who DO see and kill good bucks from Oct thru Jan, just because you've been brainwashed by TV shows.



Why?..... Because successful deer management has to take hunter satisfaction into consideration as well as deer biology. The hunters are what drive the whole need for “deer management”.


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Re: Maybe We Do Need February Hunt [Re: AC870] #1643869
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You are so wrong ! I had a lease where the bucks were totally nocturnal till the rut. It sounds more like you sir are being selfish. Most Southern hunters would gladly give up a month of hunting in the heat. As stated before its the colder months when browse has been killed that really makes deer move to feed.My opinions have nothing to do with TV programs just experience. I haven't watched a hunting program in 20 yrs.


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Re: Maybe We Do Need February Hunt [Re: ikillbux] #1643871
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I love the "you must not know how to hunt" blasts by some of you guys.

This is the second February season for where I hunt. Has it been a slam dunk? No. As a matter of fact, it hasn't been that great. I have seen bucks cruising now that I have never seen before. LOTs of tracks in the roads. Its happening even If I'm not seeing it.


Originally Posted By: ikillbux
We've got to answer the question "Why?" Why do you want February hunting?

Because it makes it easier? (I disagree, but that's another argument)

Because you want to see Outdoor Channel deer behavior? (as if you're guaranteed to see it)

Because you don't see bucks otherwise? (So what you're telling me is for 3-1/2 months you couldn't see a buck?) This is the worst answer to me, do NOT tell me this and expect me to be persuaded.

Because you want to see rutting activity? Why???? Why does it matter??? If you CAN see a buck(s) from Oct 15 thru Jan 31(and you CAN!!), what does it matter if you see a buck chasing a doe on Feb 10??? This is a grossly selfish and misguided reason.

And to the guys who say "we hunt turkeys when they gobble", I'd say "yes, but we haven't already been hunting them for 3-1/2 months prior to gobbling." As a young man, I easily killed as many longbeards in the Fall season as I did in the Spring.

Quit being selfish and abusing the resource. Get out of your over-pressured club, get off the food plots, get out of the shooting houses and ladder stands. I don't see bucks when I hunt like that either!!! Quit goofing up the season for those of us who DO see and kill good bucks from Oct thru Jan, just because you've been brainwashed by TV shows.


Re: Maybe We Do Need February Hunt [Re: AC870] #1643883
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I would never give up the first month of the season. I love bow hunting hot white oaks way too much!

Re: Maybe We Do Need February Hunt [Re: jlbuc10] #1643923
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Originally Posted By: jlbuc10
I would never give up the first month of the season. I love bow hunting hot white oaks way too much!


THIS!!!!^^^ X1000!!!

I feel very safe betting that (most of) those in favor of February hunting are not bow hunters. I would 10,000X rather see a group of racked deer feeding on acorns in October than see a buck chasing a doe in February. What the crap is this fantasy of hunting "the rut"???
For 25+ years now, EVERY season without fail, I see who knows how many more bucks in October than the rest of the season combined. And don't take that to mean that I quit seeing them in Nov/Dec/Jan. Is December as good as October, not even close. But I have killed large, mature bucks in December more years than not. All over the state, but primarily from Barbour Co to Birmingham....SOUTH ALABAMA!!!!!!!!! You are not talking to a novice hunter here, nor someone who is unaware of deer in S. AL. I am not labeling you, nor automatically pointing fingers at anybody in this discussion who is for Feb hunting, BUT most of the guys I talk to in person who want Feb hunting are what I call "food plot shooting house" guys. They don't climb trees, don't hunt cutovers, don't scout, etc. They show up on Saturdays and hunt a ladder stand that's been wore slap out all season, then that afternoon they get in a shooting house on a food plot. Then piss and moan that they ain't seeing bucks. Meanwhile, I walked with that climber till my clothes were soaking wet, sawed limbs off a tree to climb 40', so I could get on the back side of huge cutover where nobody else is. Guess what I saw??.....big bucks.

But even if you are hunting your arse off hard, that's not really my sticking point with the whole argument. You simply cannot make me understand this bizarre fascination with "the rut"?????? I've repeatedly said, I couldn't give three $#@$'s if deer ever rutted whatsoever. What are YOU seeing during "the rut" that I'm apparently missing??? I see deer chase does, I hear bucks grunt/snort wheeze/growl, I see and hear bucks sparring, but I don't see those often, sometimes I go a whole season without seeing any of that. Yet I still kill my 3 bucks most years, and don't feel disappointed if my buck was only standing in a cutover nibbling on privet (instead of fiercely chasing a doe). And yes, they are large, mature deer, not skinny racked 3yr olds.

I'm telling you, if you hunt 3-1/2 months from Oct till Jan and do not see/kill a buck(s), YOU ARE THE PROBLEM!!, not the season dates. Come on guys, I don't want to argue about it, I don't dislike y'all (we're all hunting brethren), but let's quit being Democrat hunters. (Let's change the rules to make it easier on some of us) If they made our season from June till September, I'd just make it work, not whine about "the rut".

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Re: Maybe We Do Need February Hunt [Re: AC870] #1643928
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Open the season November 15 for everyone, bow season until December 15, gun season until Feb 15, with no does harvested after Jan 15 to prevent bred does from being killed.

Re: Maybe We Do Need February Hunt [Re: AC870] #1643933
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All I know is that October through November was a big waste of my time this year. Unless we get some early cold this coming hunting season, I will not be wasting my precious vacation days again until mid-December and January. I would be in favor of no does harvested once January hits.

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Re: Maybe We Do Need February Hunt [Re: timbercruiser] #1643939
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Originally Posted By: timbercruiser
Originally Posted By: captjab
A lot of the north Bama guys were fighting mad when us southern hunters were wanting a week or two of February.


Exactly, I would be in favor of a season that opened Dec 20 or 24th and ran further into Feb. And that is for ALL weapons, bow included. I get pissed every year at the number of hunters that shoot their bow two or three times and get in a stand, then all you hear is "I stuck one, but didn't get it".


Have you seen how many gun hunters had to call in a dog to find their deer.How many didn't call and left deer in the woods.SMH


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Re: Maybe We Do Need February Hunt [Re: ikillbux] #1643940
02/08/16 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted By: ikillbux

I feel very safe betting that (most of) those in favor of February hunting are not bow hunters. I would 10,000X rather see a group of racked deer feeding on acorns in October than see a buck chasing a doe in February. What the crap is this fantasy of hunting "the rut"???
For 25+ years now, EVERY season without fail, I see who knows how many more bucks in October than the rest of the season combined. And don't take that to mean that I quit seeing them in Nov/Dec/Jan. Is December as good as October, not even close. But I have killed large, mature bucks in December more years than not. All over the state, but primarily from Barbour Co to Birmingham....SOUTH ALABAMA!!!!!!!!! You are not talking to a novice hunter here, nor someone who is unaware of deer in S. AL. I am not labeling you, nor automatically pointing fingers at anybody in this discussion who is for Feb hunting, BUT most of the guys I talk to in person who want Feb hunting are what I call "food plot shooting house" guys. They don't climb trees, don't hunt cutovers, don't scout, etc. They show up on Saturdays and hunt a ladder stand that's been wore slap out all season, then that afternoon they get in a shooting house on a food plot. Then piss and moan that they ain't seeing bucks. Meanwhile, I walked with that climber till my clothes were soaking wet, sawed limbs off a tree to climb 40', so I could get on the back side of huge cutover where nobody else is. Guess what I saw??.....big bucks.

But even if you are hunting your arse off hard, that's not really my sticking point with the whole argument. You simply cannot make me understand this bizarre fascination with "the rut"?????? I've repeatedly said, I couldn't give three $#@$'s if deer ever rutted whatsoever. What are YOU seeing during "the rut" that I'm apparently missing??? I see deer chase does, I hear bucks grunt/snort wheeze/growl, I see and hear bucks sparring, but I don't see those often, sometimes I go a whole season without seeing any of that. Yet I still kill my 3 bucks most years, and don't feel disappointed if my buck was only standing in a cutover nibbling on privet (instead of fiercely chasing a doe). And yes, they are large, mature deer, not skinny racked 3yr olds.

I'm telling you, if you hunt 3-1/2 months from Oct till Jan and do not see/kill a buck(s), YOU ARE THE PROBLEM!!, not the season dates. Come on guys, I don't want to argue about it, I don't dislike y'all (we're all hunting brethren), but let's quit being Democrat hunters. (Let's change the rules to make it easier on some of us) If they made our season from June till September, I'd just make it work, not whine about "the rut".


This is not really about patting some hunters on the back for being hardcore during low percentage time periods. Its more about focusing on the best times during the season for hunters to see deer and have the opportunity to harvest one. That directly relates to hunter satisfaction. All that has to be weighed with how many deer get killed but just because you go out and hunt your arse raw to get one during Dec doesn’t necessarily mean that its all good for everyone else. That doesn’t really dictate the direction in which we take the whole shebang. Everyone doesn’t have to be a buckmaster and hunter participation/satisfaction is important.

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Re: Maybe We Do Need February Hunt [Re: ikillbux] #1643964
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Acorns are bait and should be outlawed.

No REAL hunter would ever need to hunt over a food source.....


Originally Posted By: ikillbux
Originally Posted By: jlbuc10
I would never give up the first month of the season. I love bow hunting hot white oaks way too much!


THIS!!!!^^^ X1000!!!

I feel very safe betting that (most of) those in favor of February hunting are not bow hunters. I would 10,000X rather see a group of racked deer feeding on acorns in October than see a buck chasing a doe in February. What the crap is this fantasy of hunting "the rut"???
For 25+ years now, EVERY season without fail, I see who knows how many more bucks in October than the rest of the season combined. And don't take that to mean that I quit seeing them in Nov/Dec/Jan. Is December as good as October, not even close. But I have killed large, mature bucks in December more years than not. All over the state, but primarily from Barbour Co to Birmingham....SOUTH ALABAMA!!!!!!!!! You are not talking to a novice hunter here, nor someone who is unaware of deer in S. AL. I am not labeling you, nor automatically pointing fingers at anybody in this discussion who is for Feb hunting, BUT most of the guys I talk to in person who want Feb hunting are what I call "food plot shooting house" guys. They don't climb trees, don't hunt cutovers, don't scout, etc. They show up on Saturdays and hunt a ladder stand that's been wore slap out all season, then that afternoon they get in a shooting house on a food plot. Then piss and moan that they ain't seeing bucks. Meanwhile, I walked with that climber till my clothes were soaking wet, sawed limbs off a tree to climb 40', so I could get on the back side of huge cutover where nobody else is. Guess what I saw??.....big bucks.

But even if you are hunting your arse off hard, that's not really my sticking point with the whole argument. You simply cannot make me understand this bizarre fascination with "the rut"?????? I've repeatedly said, I couldn't give three $#@$'s if deer ever rutted whatsoever. What are YOU seeing during "the rut" that I'm apparently missing??? I see deer chase does, I hear bucks grunt/snort wheeze/growl, I see and hear bucks sparring, but I don't see those often, sometimes I go a whole season without seeing any of that. Yet I still kill my 3 bucks most years, and don't feel disappointed if my buck was only standing in a cutover nibbling on privet (instead of fiercely chasing a doe). And yes, they are large, mature deer, not skinny racked 3yr olds.

I'm telling you, if you hunt 3-1/2 months from Oct till Jan and do not see/kill a buck(s), YOU ARE THE PROBLEM!!, not the season dates. Come on guys, I don't want to argue about it, I don't dislike y'all (we're all hunting brethren), but let's quit being Democrat hunters. (Let's change the rules to make it easier on some of us) If they made our season from June till September, I'd just make it work, not whine about "the rut".

Re: Maybe We Do Need February Hunt [Re: ikillbux] #1644062
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Originally Posted By: ikillbux
We've got to answer the question "Why?" Why do you want February hunting?

Because it makes it easier? (I disagree, but that's another argument)

Because you want to see Outdoor Channel deer behavior? (as if you're guaranteed to see it)

Because you don't see bucks otherwise? (So what you're telling me is for 3-1/2 months you couldn't see a buck?) This is the worst answer to me, do NOT tell me this and expect me to be persuaded.

Because you want to see rutting activity? Why???? Why does it matter??? If you CAN see a buck(s) from Oct 15 thru Jan 31(and you CAN!!), what does it matter if you see a buck chasing a doe on Feb 10??? This is a grossly selfish and misguided reason.

And to the guys who say "we hunt turkeys when they gobble", I'd say "yes, but we haven't already been hunting them for 3-1/2 months prior to gobbling." As a young man, I easily killed as many longbeards in the Fall season as I did in the Spring.

Quit being selfish and abusing the resource. Get out of your over-pressured club, get off the food plots, get out of the shooting houses and ladder stands. I don't see bucks when I hunt like that either!!! Quit goofing up the season for those of us who DO see and kill good bucks from Oct thru Jan, just because you've been brainwashed by TV shows.


Another example of someone who does not have a clue.....until you have hunted extreme south Alabama you never will. Btw I can assure you that you don't have the secret weapon for killing bucks. We already know everything you say and practice it. As far as abusing the resource the only people doing that are those over harvesting does in low deer density areas......I could say a lot more but will refrain at this time because I am sure your arrogance exceeds whatever hunting ability you have and is not worth my time.....Good day!


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Re: Maybe We Do Need February Hunt [Re: jlbuc10] #1644147
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Originally Posted By: jlbuc10
I would never give up the first month of the season. I love bow hunting hot white oaks way too much!

You wouldn't on my property because all you would hunting is black bears wink


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Re: Maybe We Do Need February Hunt [Re: ikillbux] #1644156
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Originally Posted By: ikillbux
Originally Posted By: jlbuc10
I would never give up the first month of the season. I love bow hunting hot white oaks way too much!


THIS!!!!^^^ X1000!!!

I feel very safe betting that (most of) those in favor of February hunting are not bow hunters. I would 10,000X rather see a group of racked deer feeding on acorns in October than see a buck chasing a doe in February. What the crap is this fantasy of hunting "the rut"???
For 25+ years now, EVERY season without fail, I see who knows how many more bucks in October than the rest of the season combined. And don't take that to mean that I quit seeing them in Nov/Dec/Jan. Is December as good as October, not even close. But I have killed large, mature bucks in December more years than not. All over the state, but primarily from Barbour Co to Birmingham....SOUTH ALABAMA!!!!!!!!! You are not talking to a novice hunter here, nor someone who is unaware of deer in S. AL. I am not labeling you, nor automatically pointing fingers at anybody in this discussion who is for Feb hunting, BUT most of the guys I talk to in person who want Feb hunting are what I call "food plot shooting house" guys. They don't climb trees, don't hunt cutovers, don't scout, etc. They show up on Saturdays and hunt a ladder stand that's been wore slap out all season, then that afternoon they get in a shooting house on a food plot. Then piss and moan that they ain't seeing bucks. Meanwhile, I walked with that climber till my clothes were soaking wet, sawed limbs off a tree to climb 40', so I could get on the back side of huge cutover where nobody else is. Guess what I saw??.....big bucks.

But even if you are hunting your arse off hard, that's not really my sticking point with the whole argument. You simply cannot make me understand this bizarre fascination with "the rut"?????? I've repeatedly said, I couldn't give three $#@$'s if deer ever rutted whatsoever. What are YOU seeing during "the rut" that I'm apparently missing??? I see deer chase does, I hear bucks grunt/snort wheeze/growl, I see and hear bucks sparring, but I don't see those often, sometimes I go a whole season without seeing any of that. Yet I still kill my 3 bucks most years, and don't feel disappointed if my buck was only standing in a cutover nibbling on privet (instead of fiercely chasing a doe). And yes, they are large, mature deer, not skinny racked 3yr olds.

I'm telling you, if you hunt 3-1/2 months from Oct till Jan and do not see/kill a buck(s), YOU ARE THE PROBLEM!!, not the season dates. Come on guys, I don't want to argue about it, I don't dislike y'all (we're all hunting brethren), but let's quit being Democrat hunters. (Let's change the rules to make it easier on some of us) If they made our season from June till September, I'd just make it work, not whine about "the rut".

Damn you really just don't get it.......by the way in my forty years of hunting I can probably count using all my digits how many times I have sat in a shooting house. Also your comment about shooting your three bucks shows me again you don't get it. I too could have killed three bucks if that is what I wanted to do.....it sounds to me you are the one trying to abuse the resource instead of the February hunters as you insinuated earlier...


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Re: Maybe We Do Need February Hunt [Re: chevyman] #1644158
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Originally Posted By: chevyman
Originally Posted By: timbercruiser
Originally Posted By: captjab
A lot of the north Bama guys were fighting mad when us southern hunters were wanting a week or two of February.


Exactly, I would be in favor of a season that opened Dec 20 or 24th and ran further into Feb. And that is for ALL weapons, bow included. I get pissed every year at the number of hunters that shoot their bow two or three times and get in a stand, then all you hear is "I stuck one, but didn't get it".


Have you seen how many gun hunters had to call in a dog to find their deer.How many didn't call and left deer in the woods.SMH

Both bow hunters and gun hunters need to practice more with their weapons of choice and take less questionable shots......it seems to happen a lot more these days for some reason....


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Originally Posted By: CNC
Originally Posted By: ikillbux

I feel very safe betting that (most of) those in favor of February hunting are not bow hunters. I would 10,000X rather see a group of racked deer feeding on acorns in October than see a buck chasing a doe in February. What the crap is this fantasy of hunting "the rut"???
For 25+ years now, EVERY season without fail, I see who knows how many more bucks in October than the rest of the season combined. And don't take that to mean that I quit seeing them in Nov/Dec/Jan. Is December as good as October, not even close. But I have killed large, mature bucks in December more years than not. All over the state, but primarily from Barbour Co to Birmingham....SOUTH ALABAMA!!!!!!!!! You are not talking to a novice hunter here, nor someone who is unaware of deer in S. AL. I am not labeling you, nor automatically pointing fingers at anybody in this discussion who is for Feb hunting, BUT most of the guys I talk to in person who want Feb hunting are what I call "food plot shooting house" guys. They don't climb trees, don't hunt cutovers, don't scout, etc. They show up on Saturdays and hunt a ladder stand that's been wore slap out all season, then that afternoon they get in a shooting house on a food plot. Then piss and moan that they ain't seeing bucks. Meanwhile, I walked with that climber till my clothes were soaking wet, sawed limbs off a tree to climb 40', so I could get on the back side of huge cutover where nobody else is. Guess what I saw??.....big bucks.

But even if you are hunting your arse off hard, that's not really my sticking point with the whole argument. You simply cannot make me understand this bizarre fascination with "the rut"?????? I've repeatedly said, I couldn't give three $#@$'s if deer ever rutted whatsoever. What are YOU seeing during "the rut" that I'm apparently missing??? I see deer chase does, I hear bucks grunt/snort wheeze/growl, I see and hear bucks sparring, but I don't see those often, sometimes I go a whole season without seeing any of that. Yet I still kill my 3 bucks most years, and don't feel disappointed if my buck was only standing in a cutover nibbling on privet (instead of fiercely chasing a doe). And yes, they are large, mature deer, not skinny racked 3yr olds.

I'm telling you, if you hunt 3-1/2 months from Oct till Jan and do not see/kill a buck(s), YOU ARE THE PROBLEM!!, not the season dates. Come on guys, I don't want to argue about it, I don't dislike y'all (we're all hunting brethren), but let's quit being Democrat hunters. (Let's change the rules to make it easier on some of us) If they made our season from June till September, I'd just make it work, not whine about "the rut".


This is not really about patting some hunters on the back for being hardcore during low percentage time periods. Its more about focusing on the best times during the season for hunters to see deer and have the opportunity to harvest one. That directly relates to hunter satisfaction. All that has to be weighed with how many deer get killed but just because you go out and hunt your arse raw to get one during Dec doesn’t necessarily mean that its all good for everyone else. That doesn’t really dictate the direction in which we take the whole shebang. Everyone doesn’t have to be a buckmaster and hunter participation/satisfaction is important.

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Re: Maybe We Do Need February Hunt [Re: AC870] #1644179
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Funny what a difference a few miles make in the same county/area of county. I had them on camera rutting, bucks cut up, does roughed up, and watched them chase several evenings in a row the first few weeks on January and then come back on a lesser rut the last week of season when I shot a buck. Since Jan 28th it's died down for me. Darn deer need to get more consistent for all of us haha

I hunt about as far north as you can go in Marshall County

And I too like the post someone made above about people moaning who don't put in the time to get out in the hardwoods, climb trees, etc...put in the time any time of the year and it can pay off indeed

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Re: Maybe We Do Need February Hunt [Re: bigt] #1644200
02/08/16 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted By: bigt
Originally Posted By: ikillbux
Originally Posted By: jlbuc10
I would never give up the first month of the season. I love bow hunting hot white oaks way too much!


THIS!!!!^^^ X1000!!!

I feel very safe betting that (most of) those in favor of February hunting are not bow hunters. I would 10,000X rather see a group of racked deer feeding on acorns in October than see a buck chasing a doe in February. What the crap is this fantasy of hunting "the rut"???
For 25+ years now, EVERY season without fail, I see who knows how many more bucks in October than the rest of the season combined. And don't take that to mean that I quit seeing them in Nov/Dec/Jan. Is December as good as October, not even close. But I have killed large, mature bucks in December more years than not. All over the state, but primarily from Barbour Co to Birmingham....SOUTH ALABAMA!!!!!!!!! You are not talking to a novice hunter here, nor someone who is unaware of deer in S. AL. I am not labeling you, nor automatically pointing fingers at anybody in this discussion who is for Feb hunting, BUT most of the guys I talk to in person who want Feb hunting are what I call "food plot shooting house" guys. They don't climb trees, don't hunt cutovers, don't scout, etc. They show up on Saturdays and hunt a ladder stand that's been wore slap out all season, then that afternoon they get in a shooting house on a food plot. Then piss and moan that they ain't seeing bucks. Meanwhile, I walked with that climber till my clothes were soaking wet, sawed limbs off a tree to climb 40', so I could get on the back side of huge cutover where nobody else is. Guess what I saw??.....big bucks.

But even if you are hunting your arse off hard, that's not really my sticking point with the whole argument. You simply cannot make me understand this bizarre fascination with "the rut"?????? I've repeatedly said, I couldn't give three $#@$'s if deer ever rutted whatsoever. What are YOU seeing during "the rut" that I'm apparently missing??? I see deer chase does, I hear bucks grunt/snort wheeze/growl, I see and hear bucks sparring, but I don't see those often, sometimes I go a whole season without seeing any of that. Yet I still kill my 3 bucks most years, and don't feel disappointed if my buck was only standing in a cutover nibbling on privet (instead of fiercely chasing a doe). And yes, they are large, mature deer, not skinny racked 3yr olds.

I'm telling you, if you hunt 3-1/2 months from Oct till Jan and do not see/kill a buck(s), YOU ARE THE PROBLEM!!, not the season dates. Come on guys, I don't want to argue about it, I don't dislike y'all (we're all hunting brethren), but let's quit being Democrat hunters. (Let's change the rules to make it easier on some of us) If they made our season from June till September, I'd just make it work, not whine about "the rut".

Damn you really just don't get it.......by the way in my forty years of hunting I can probably count using all my digits how many times I have sat in a shooting house. Also your comment about shooting your three bucks shows me again you don't get it. I too could have killed three bucks if that is what I wanted to do.....it sounds to me you are the one trying to abuse the resource instead of the February hunters as you insinuated earlier...


Good post BigT, I could have killed my 3 bucks several times over every single year that I hunted in Alabama if that is my goal. And if that is your goal I'm not going to say there is anything wrong with it, but that is not the goal of many people. For many their goal is to kill a wall hanger, and I'm not talking about 2 1/2 year old 8's and 10's, I'm talking about older bucks. And I don't care if you're Davey Crocket, you have a much better chance of killing the big boys during the rut. I'm not a plot hunter either, and I've seen way more movement of older bucks during the rut than anytime of the year in South Alabama and North FL. Why don't you come down here and put on a seminar and show us how to kill 3 of these old dudes during bow season every year... grin

Now I'm not knocking the guys who don't care about killing mature bucks cause that's ok too, I've got no problem either way as long as they are legal, but no one including you is going to kill 3 mature bucks a year outside of the rut in this area year in and year out, unless you have an exceptional piece of property with very little pressure. Most people don't have access to that type of property so the rut helps to increase your odds...

Oh and I almost forgot to ask this question...Why are you acting like you have to choose between early season bow hunting and Feb rut hunting? We still have an early bow season and the days that are gained in Feb are removed during the gun season. It's not like we are getting extra days to hunt so why in the world would anyone care?? It really boils down to I don't have it so I don't want anyone else to have it either mentality in my opinion.

Re: Maybe We Do Need February Hunt [Re: AC870] #1644205
02/08/16 09:51 AM
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I'd be all for having bow season run from Oct 15 to Feb 15 statewide. Too many ruts in north Alabama don't start until early to mid January and you miss out on the secondary rut.

Re: Maybe We Do Need February Hunt [Re: AC870] #1644211
02/08/16 09:56 AM
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I don't understand why some of y'all are acting like getting a couple weeks to hunt in Febuary is a Cancer or something, good lord! Its starting to sound like a damn deer dog debate!

Re: Maybe We Do Need February Hunt [Re: AC870] #1644230
02/08/16 10:20 AM
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I would like to see a year round season. But, I'd be homeless and divorced!


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