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Re: Once we get tags... [Re: Remington270] #1650336
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Like many others have said, outlaws will be outlaws. I dont see how it will work. If I shoot a deer on my farm and did not want to take it to a processor or a tag station I could I could work it up at home and put it in the freezer. And nobody would ever know.

Are we going to require that tag number to be attached to each package of meat in my freezer? How would they know that the meat in my freezer was not legally taken?

If I didnt brag about what I was doing there would be no reason for a game warden to ever consider searching my freezers. I know that is probably how a lot of wardens know who to watch and try to catch, because some dumbass has to tell everyone what they did. Word gets around and then he idiot gets caught.

I am not really worried about it though. If it passes I will do what is required but I feel certain that me, my son, and my daughter can legally take enough deer for our needs. If they dont allow me to take the number of deer we usually eat I can buy beef at the store and save alot of money. I bet my cubed deer steaks cost about $40 per pound when I start adding everything up...



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Re: Once we get tags... [Re: sumpter_al] #1650378
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In the past I had access to strips of property that end up being a waste of time to shoot any deer period. One property the night hunters and day hunters shot any buck period. Those properties if I could hunt there I would shoot any mature deer now for meat. Tags don't allow deer to grow people do that is not going to change, especially since you can't hear anyone shoot a deer with bow!

Re: Once we get tags... [Re: centralala] #1650503
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Originally Posted by centralala
Originally Posted by Stikman
I'd love to see the state go to a tag system!
3 bucks 6 does given with the purchase of each license.
All lifetime license holders would present their license at any place of business that sold license and receive a free book of tags. Any child wishing to hunt could either use their supervising hunters tags or pass a hunters education course and present their CC# in exchange for their personal tags until they are 16 when license are required.
Seems like common sense but unfortunately that doesn't exist in our state government.
All mom&pop stores could be tag stations and every tagged deer reported by the store to the state would get a $1 issuance just like they do when they sell a license.


How do the people not required to have a license get theirs?? The landowner?? The military guy home on leave?? The seniors??

COMMON SENSE!
OVER 65 show them your ID you get free tags
Never met a landowner that didn't buy a hunting license but off the top of my head go to the courthouse and register for tags to be sent by mail.
Military, show military ID!
Is it really that hard for some of you to grasp the concepts of a tag system?

Re: Once we get tags... [Re: turkey247] #1650509
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Originally Posted by turkey247
Originally Posted by Stikman
I'd love to see the state go to a tag system!
3 bucks 6 does given with the purchase of each license.
All lifetime license holders would present their license at any place of business that sold license and receive a free book of tags. Any child wishing to hunt could either use their supervising hunters tags or pass a hunters education course and present their CC# in exchange for their personal tags until they are 16 when license are required.
Seems like common sense but unfortunately that doesn't exist in our state government.
All mom&pop stores could be tag stations and every tagged deer reported by the store to the state would get a $1 issuance just like they do when they sell a license.


6 doe tags! That's the same as 100 or infinity.

Keep in mind that every lease or hunting camp is not like uours!
Some of us hunt large tracts of land with as few hunters as possible and need to shoot quite a few does just to maintain age structure of the herd. And there are still some areas that can stand excessive doe harvest.
I for one think it's a great practice to shoot twice as many does as you shoot bucks especially when you are trying to maintain a herd.
If you feel 6 is to many you're not require to shoot any but don't tell the guy 2 counties over he cant!!!

Re: Once we get tags... [Re: Stikman] #1650512
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Originally Posted by Stikman

Originally Posted by centralala
Originally Posted by Stikman
I'd love to see the state go to a tag system!
3 bucks 6 does given with the purchase of each license.
All lifetime license holders would present their license at any place of business that sold license and receive a free book of tags. Any child wishing to hunt could either use their supervising hunters tags or pass a hunters education course and present their CC# in exchange for their personal tags until they are 16 when license are required.
Seems like common sense but unfortunately that doesn't exist in our state government.
All mom&pop stores could be tag stations and every tagged deer reported by the store to the state would get a $1 issuance just like they do when they sell a license.


How do the people not required to have a license get theirs?? The landowner?? The military guy home on leave?? The seniors??

COMMON SENSE!
OVER 65 show them your ID you get free tags
Never met a landowner that didn't buy a hunting license but off the top of my head go to the courthouse and register for tags to be sent by mail.
Military, show military ID!
Is it really that hard for some of you to grasp the concepts of a tag system?


Is it really that hard to grasp the idea that bureaucrats and, well I'm not going to say it, can make a leisurely activity into a controlled government social experiment when there is no evidence that deer in Alabama are an endangered species that needs micromanaging. Surely you realize that with the deer you and your family saw and killed this year that they are not endangered, right?


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Re: Once we get tags... [Re: Remington270] #1650674
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Re: Once we get tags... [Re: Stikman] #1650678
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Originally Posted by Stikman

Originally Posted by centralala
Originally Posted by Stikman
I'd love to see the state go to a tag system!
3 bucks 6 does given with the purchase of each license.
All lifetime license holders would present their license at any place of business that sold license and receive a free book of tags. Any child wishing to hunt could either use their supervising hunters tags or pass a hunters education course and present their CC# in exchange for their personal tags until they are 16 when license are required.
Seems like common sense but unfortunately that doesn't exist in our state government.
All mom&pop stores could be tag stations and every tagged deer reported by the store to the state would get a $1 issuance just like they do when they sell a license.


How do the people not required to have a license get theirs?? The landowner?? The military guy home on leave?? The seniors??

COMMON SENSE!
OVER 65 show them your ID you get free tags
Never met a landowner that didn't buy a hunting license but off the top of my head go to the courthouse and register for tags to be sent by mail.
Military, show military ID!
Is it really that hard for some of you to grasp the concepts of a tag system?


Ever had to buy a tag for federal duck stamp. Not worth it for a few ducks. Tags, taxes, license, more on top of all we got now. Take away, but no more taxes, tags, or license on top of what we got now!
Probably insurance and tag on a gun if we don't tell them enough is enough. Turning me away from sport can't imagine what newcomers are thinking! Too much!

Re: Once we get tags... [Re: Fun4all] #1650689
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Exactly we all hunt for different reasons. Some Need that meat as much as they can get. Some just want that buck. Some just want to see deer. Some just want the new hunter to get one. I'm every one of them one time or another. Don't need no more LAWS. Just hunt your hunt

Re: Once we get tags... [Re: Fun4all] #1650693
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Originally Posted by Fun4all
Originally Posted by jbc
Originally Posted by swampcracker
Hunting is going to crap. Too many grown men crying about what the other guy is doing. Tags suck! Keep it like it is. I Hunted the tag system for years. And this is a fact! Outlaws are going to kill what they want when they want how they want and no New LAWS will help. What about the guys that actually hunt for meat. Not just a rack to show off! You know the reason 99% of us started hunting for some deer or hog meat and bear in my case. But in this New fast have it now age you suck if you don't kill a 150" buck every year and for God's sake you have to have the newest thundermag with a 1,000$ scope on top to kill it with. And a 10,000$ ATV to pull it out with. Sure give the state some more of the $$ buy some extra Tags! All this is is a way to price the working man out of hunting. Remember when a Dad could throw on some fatigues a old Orange hat and grab the old ought six and take his kid to the local woods kill a 4 point and be happy for it. Wow! Tags. And who cares if a guy kills 8 or 10 deer a year out the delta or a wma to feed his family that's wonderful! Don't make it a bigger pain to be able to hunt.


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LOL, it may be more like he is saying grow up, just my opinion though.
lol to that

Re: Once we get tags... [Re: Remington270] #1650725
02/13/16 03:15 PM
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Tags give an LEO another shot at nailing a road, night hunter/poacher.
Can't for the life of me figure how people can be against it. It's a way to get crooks, if we have adequate punishment. We need a possession limit, too. Try to close the loopholes on these scumbags..


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Re: Once we get tags... [Re: Remington270] #1650773
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So now even if we get tags some of y'all ain't gonna be happy. Jesus Christ what else do yall want? Asking for more fines? I mean how asinine is it for a certain crowd of people who enjoy the same hobby (that's already looked down upon) to ask to be punished more. Please make it harder and less enjoyable to hunt......,I beg you. Please take away all my rights and options to hunt as I see fit, and let my neighbors way take precedent over mine. Maybe if y'all keep on you'll run everybody off and have it all to yourself and then you can kill a damn deer. As for me, I'm fortunate enough that I'll kill deer regardless of how hard y'all try to make it. I've carried around 5 dif harvest sheets for several years now trying my best to keep my family legal. Y'all suck, im out for a while.


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Re: Once we get tags... [Re: Hogwild] #1650775
02/13/16 04:07 PM
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DCNR sent me a link to a survey asking what I thought about a mandatory harvest reporting system for deer and turkey. It was 2-3 days before I could get around to clicking on the link to take the survey. When I did, it had already expired. Not that I think my opinion would've made a difference.

Personally, IF they keep the same limits as they have now and IF it doesn't end up costing more, I don't think I have a problem with it. But that's 2 too many IFs. It seems like when it comes to the government, they end up placing more restrictions on us and charging more for their effort.

It's not as if I'm ever in danger of going over my limit anyway. I got a doe and a 5 point this season and felt fortunate. Just my opinion...


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Re: Once we get tags... [Re: Gotcha1] #1650782
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Originally Posted by Gotcha1
Tags give an LEO another shot at nailing a road, night hunter/poacher.
Can't for the life of me figure how people can be against it. It's a way to get crooks, if we have adequate punishment. We need a possession limit, too. Try to close the loopholes on these scumbags..


Please elaborate! Does not having a tag send a beacon light out to the LEO that a road, night hunter/poacher is in the act? What if the road, night hunter/poacher has a tag in possession is it a lesser offense? Did having a tag or not having a tag stop the road, night hunter/poacher?

So what it is sounding like to me is that it's okay to burden the lawful hunter because dangit we just can't figure out what to do with road, night hunters/poachers. Does that just about sum it up? Besides burdening the law abiding hunter with the tag, what happens when the LEO checks a law abiding hunter and his tag was in the pocket of the pants he wore yesterday along with the fingernail clippers that he didn't need on today's hunt, does he all of a sudden become a damn poacher and he should be fined? Oh yeah, what does the tag do to stop the illegal hunter again?


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Re: Once we get tags... [Re: Remington270] #1650800
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You and I need to carry on a conversation, because, as you should know by now, each person faces different situations than the other. Your comments make no sense to me, and mine probably have the same effect on you.


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Re: Once we get tags... [Re: globe] #1650854
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Originally Posted by globe
So now even if we get tags some of y'all ain't gonna be happy. Jesus Christ what else do yall want? Asking for more fines? I mean how asinine is it for a certain crowd of people who enjoy the same hobby (that's already looked down upon) to ask to be punished more. Please make it harder and less enjoyable to hunt......,I beg you. Please take away all my rights and options to hunt as I see fit, and let my neighbors way take precedent over mine. Maybe if y'all keep on you'll run everybody off and have it all to yourself and then you can kill a damn deer. As for me, I'm fortunate enough that I'll kill deer regardless of how hard y'all try to make it. I've carried around 5 dif harvest sheets for several years now trying my best to keep my family legal. Y'all suck, im out for a while.


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Re: Once we get tags... [Re: Remington270] #1650968
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What i don't understand is why everyone is thinking that getting tags is so hard will cost you your firstborn.
All you gotta go do is buy them at walmart or whatever place you get your license now. Usually they are a waterproof type paper with pull off tags that you put around the horn of the animal. Boom! Done! Thats really how simple it usually is. Tags are not that big of deal. Price should be around the same as you pay for your license now.
What tags do is cut down on poaching. Maybe not your hardcore poachers who are repeat offenders and will never stop, but it will make some people think twice. Will it cut out all poaching? Nope, but combined with stiff poaching fines it should cut down on alot.
I would also be in favor of doe days too or a limited doe season or doe tags. I think that most of us are responsible enough to not need these laws but unfortunately not all are and will just shoot anything that moves because they can and no law can touch them. A tag system and doe days would probably help.
If you have a property with too high of doe popularion then additional permits can be issued.
Now how many tags should come wih your license is another discussion. But would 2 bucks 4 doe tags per license be enough for most households to have meat through the year? Probably. If you have other hunters in your hosehold then that number goes up.
Most other states have a tag system, and it really is not that burdensome.

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Originally Posted by ValleyDawg

Now how many tags should come wih your license is another discussion. But would 2 bucks 4 doe tags per license be enough for most households to have meat through the year? Probably. If you have other hunters in your hosehold then that number goes up.
Most other states have a tag system, and it really is not that burdensome.


So people with more kids get more tags? That make a lot of sense loco

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Originally Posted by ValleyDawg
What i don't understand is why everyone is thinking that getting tags is so hard will cost you your firstborn.
All you gotta go do is buy them at walma
rt or whatever place you get your license now. Usually they are a waterproof type paper with pull off tags that you put around the horn of the animal. Boom! Done! Thats really how simple it usually is. Tags are not that big of deal. Price should be around the same as you pay for your license now.
What tags do is cut down on poaching. Maybe not your hardcore poachers who are repeat offenders and will never stop, but it will make some people think twice. Will it cut out all poaching? Nope, but combined with stiff poaching fines it should cut down on alot.
I would also be in favor of doe days too or a limited doe season or doe tags. I think that most of us are responsible enough to not need these laws but unfortunately not all are and will just shoot anything that moves because they can and no law can touch them. A tag system and doe days would probably help.
If you have a property with too high of doe popularion then additional permits can be issued.
Now how many tags should come wih your license is another discussion. But would 2 bucks 4 doe tags per license be enough for most households to have meat through the year? Probably. If you have other hunters in your hosehold then that number goes up.
Most other states have a tag system, and it really is not that burdensome.

Right on!!!
In other states that I've hunted that require tags they have all issued them with your license. Simple to the point all you need is a pocket knife, not a pen or marker. To claim that tags would be a burden to hunters is ridiculous. I'm think that some on here just don't even bother buying a license either. Is it that hard to have your license, tags, and ID in hour wallet while your hunting? If it is then surely the act of squeezing the trigger would be way yo tiresome.
Not only does tags reduce illegal activity, but it gives the state an actual number on what was legally harvested.
Everybody wants to complain about the state regulations and the over harvest of deer in some areas but when they actually have a system that will give the biologist a better view of what's happening across the state it becomes a burden to the hunter....
And some just say no more regulations enough is enough, just let me hunt like I want....
We've already tried that and that is why we had all the restocking efforts in the 60's 70's and 80's!

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Stikman, I don't buy a license and I'm still legal.

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Either your past 65 or whatever age it is or you hunt your own land.
What does that have to do with have a legitimate tag system?

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