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Re: Once we get tags...
[Re: Stikman]
#1651033
02/13/16 07:47 PM
02/13/16 07:47 PM
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turkey247
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I'd love to see the state go to a tag system! 3 bucks 6 does given with the purchase of each license. All lifetime license holders would present their license at any place of business that sold license and receive a free book of tags. Any child wishing to hunt could either use their supervising hunters tags or pass a hunters education course and present their CC# in exchange for their personal tags until they are 16 when license are required. Seems like common sense but unfortunately that doesn't exist in our state government. All mom&pop stores could be tag stations and every tagged deer reported by the store to the state would get a $1 issuance just like they do when they sell a license. 6 doe tags! That's the same as 100 or infinity. Keep in mind that every lease or hunting camp is not like uours! Some of us hunt large tracts of land with as few hunters as possible and need to shoot quite a few does just to maintain age structure of the herd. And there are still some areas that can stand excessive doe harvest. I for one think it's a great practice to shoot twice as many does as you shoot bucks especially when you are trying to maintain a herd. If you feel 6 is to many you're not require to shoot any but don't tell the guy 2 counties over he cant!!! None of that really changes the point - that 6 doe tags for every hunter is the same as it is today regarding doe harvest. Like I said - may as well be 100 - it won't change whatever the current doe harvest is today. So - the point is why even spend resources to have doe tags if you are gonna issue that many. May as well just have buck tags and no change to doe harvest regulations. That's the only point I was making. No need to get that defensive and assume there was any other agenda behind it.
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Re: Once we get tags...
[Re: Remington270]
#1651036
02/13/16 07:50 PM
02/13/16 07:50 PM
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Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 4,692 Madison, AL
wmd
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Now how many tags should come wih your license is another discussion. But would 2 bucks 4 doe tags per license be enough for most households to have meat through the year? Probably. If you have other hunters in your hosehold then that number goes up. Most other states have a tag system, and it really is not that burdensome.
So people with more kids get more tags? That make a lot of sense So should it be a certain limit per household or family?
"Any way you look at it, most of the problems facing baboons can be expressed in two words: other baboons" - D.L. Cheney and R.M. Seyfarth
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Re: Once we get tags...
[Re: turkey247]
#1651044
02/13/16 08:02 PM
02/13/16 08:02 PM
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Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 821 Montgomery
Stikman
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I'd love to see the state go to a tag system! 3 bucks 6 does given with the purchase of each license. All lifetime license holders would present their license at any place of business that sold license and receive a free book of tags. Any child wishing to hunt could either use their supervising hunters tags or pass a hunters education course and present their CC# in exchange for their personal tags until they are 16 when license are required. Seems like common sense but unfortunately that doesn't exist in our state government. All mom&pop stores could be tag stations and every tagged deer reported by the store to the state would get a $1 issuance just like they do when they sell a license. 6 doe tags! That's the same as 100 or infinity. Keep in mind that every lease or hunting camp is not like uours! Some of us hunt large tracts of land with as few hunters as possible and need to shoot quite a few does just to maintain age structure of the herd. And there are still some areas that can stand excessive doe harvest. I for one think it's a great practice to shoot twice as many does as you shoot bucks especially when you are trying to maintain a herd. If you feel 6 is to many you're not require to shoot any but don't tell the guy 2 counties over he cant!!! None of that really changes the point - that 6 doe tags for every hunter is the same as it is today regarding doe harvest. Like I said - may as well be 100 - it won't change whatever the current doe harvest is today. So - the point is why even spend resources to have doe tags if you are gonna issue that many. May as well just have buck tags and no change to doe harvest regulations. That's the only point I was making. No need to get that defensive and assume there was any other agenda behind it. No offense This way the state can have accurate numbers of what is legally killed If 6 does is not enough for the land you and your buddies hunt I believe the doe tag program is still in place, not used much anymore but if not it could be implemented again if needed on certain tracts of land
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Re: Once we get tags...
[Re: Stikman]
#1651057
02/13/16 08:32 PM
02/13/16 08:32 PM
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Posts: 1,905 NW AL
Hayzeus
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If alabama has similar systems to other states YOU DON'T BUY THE TAGS!!! If you are required to buy a license you will be ISSUED tags for FREE at the time of sale. If you are above the set age then you will be ISSUED tags for FREE at the store or agency that sells license.
And I'm pretty sure IF the state does move to a tag system and requires them to be reported you'll either comply like all other law abiding hunters or you will risk getting caught. It will take an entire generation for the state to get accurate numbers on harvest because of the "I ain't gonna" attitudes that will more than likely bleed over to their next of kin but it up to DCNR to protect and manage this resource and until a good sound tagging system is in place with support from the majority of hunters our DCNR is managing in hindsight. If you're against a legitimate tag system my advice would be to quit complaining about deer and deer numbers because right now your guess is just as good as the states! First of all, Alabama is spelled with a CAPITAL A. And why are you hollerin? If I am not required to buy a license, why would I go out of my way to have a tag issued? If you are so concerned about these damned pine goats, how about keeping them out of the roads. I bet the insurance companies have some numbers.
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Re: Once we get tags...
[Re: Gotcha1]
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02/14/16 12:08 AM
02/14/16 12:08 AM
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Posts: 49 Chunchula Alabama
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Tags give an LEO another shot at nailing a road, night hunter/poacher. Can't for the life of me figure how people can be against it. It's a way to get crooks, if we have adequate punishment. We need a possession limit, too. Try to close the loopholes on these scumbags.. there's that word loophole. Look man I live in poacherville Alabama every night in late summer before bow season even starts they are up and down my road shooting every buck with a rack they see. Tags ain't stopping that! What they will stop is when you want to take that one extra deer for your sick neighbor that says I sure wish I had a deer I couldn't hunt this year and so on. Fact is outlaws need gamewardens to catch them doing it. All tags are going to do is affect the honest man and he ain't knocking the number down. Y'all have had it good for so long a poor year and its the sky is falling. When I started he put hounds on any track We found and still never seen deer compare to now. And You Got guys crying about corn. Baahaahaa! Well that's another thing corns always been out I been hunting 39 years and have seen corn every year. And we don't care how they do it up north. We live in the south to hunt 4-6 months a year and fish the rest. And killing Big bucks is something special. Not something if you don't kill 3 150" bucks a year hunting stunk let's get new regulations.
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Re: Once we get tags...
[Re: Remington270]
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02/14/16 12:09 AM
02/14/16 12:09 AM
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Posts: 12,788 Thomasville, AL
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So now even if we get tags some of y'all ain't gonna be happy. Jesus Christ what else do yall want? Asking for more fines? I mean how asinine is it for a certain crowd of people who enjoy the same hobby (that's already looked down upon) to ask to be punished more. Please make it harder and less enjoyable to hunt......,I beg you. Please take away all my rights and options to hunt as I see fit, and let my neighbors way take precedent over mine. Maybe if y'all keep on you'll run everybody off and have it all to yourself and then you can kill a damn deer. As for me, I'm fortunate enough that I'll kill deer regardless of how hard y'all try to make it. I've carried around 5 dif harvest sheets for several years now trying my best to keep my family legal. Y'all suck, im out for a while. Globe's got it straight! Numerous times over!
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Re: Once we get tags...
[Re: Remington270]
#1651114
02/14/16 03:10 AM
02/14/16 03:10 AM
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Posts: 821 Montgomery
Stikman
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First of all as much as I would love to say that here in this great country that I have a RIGHT to hunt I can't because it's not a right. If it was a right I wouldn't have to buy license or follow rules,regulations, or seasons! Unfortunately it a privilege that requires a license that can be taken away. I'm not for a bunch of stupid rules regulations but having a sound tagging system give the state biologist (who may or may not know as much about deer hunting, habitat, and reproduction as you do but from the ones I've had meetings with have got a pretty good foundation for management) a better understanding of legal harvest in all areas of the state! Why would you not want to help the state manage it resources? What better way to have a voice than to share your harvest information with the agency responsible for its management? I'm getting the feeling that some have had bad experiences with the man in green. I bump into the ones around her on a weekly basis and enjoy eating breakfast and chatting up with them. Everyone I've ever met where outdoorsmans just like myself and we had a lot in common. Maybe I've got it all wrong... I've always seen that green truck as a resource, not a harassment!
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Re: Once we get tags...
[Re: Remington270]
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02/14/16 03:30 AM
02/14/16 03:30 AM
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Posts: 1,739 Jasper, Alabama
ValleyDawg
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Now how many tags should come wih your license is another discussion. But would 2 bucks 4 doe tags per license be enough for most households to have meat through the year? Probably. If you have other hunters in your hosehold then that number goes up. Most other states have a tag system, and it really is not that burdensome.
So people with more kids get more tags? That make a lot of sense The kids would have their own license with tags attached. Everyone who is issued a license has their own tags. Really not that hard to comprehend. You are overthinking it. It makes a whole lof more sense than free for all, poachers paradise system we have now.
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Re: Once we get tags...
[Re: wmd]
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02/14/16 03:36 AM
02/14/16 03:36 AM
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Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,739 Jasper, Alabama
ValleyDawg
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Now how many tags should come wih your license is another discussion. But would 2 bucks 4 doe tags per license be enough for most households to have meat through the year? Probably. If you have other hunters in your hosehold then that number goes up. Most other states have a tag system, and it really is not that burdensome.
So people with more kids get more tags? That make a lot of sense So should it be a certain limit per household or family? Every license has its own tags. Every hunter must have their own license. If you are under or over a certain age the license could be free or discounted but every hunter still needs to have the license with tags attached.
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Re: Once we get tags...
[Re: swampcracker]
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02/14/16 03:40 AM
02/14/16 03:40 AM
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Posts: 1,739 Jasper, Alabama
ValleyDawg
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I think your right. As old Earl use to say WAKE Up America! And Only You can control Trigger Finger itch. You Want to help the deer number join a group. Donate some time to improve the land For God's sake feed Some on your property. When did it become a sin to help the herd in hard time. Shoot some coyote trap some. Bug the Gamewarden when you SEE them old boys kill em off the road in September. I meen he'll every one has kill lights with corn piles under them shots all night from September to March around here. Nothing is done about it Cus our man in green is running his ass off and y'all want to give him one more thing to check on the honest guys. That's about like new gun laws. A Joke. Tags would actually help the game warden. When he peeks into the bed of a truck he doesnt have to ask any questions or try to determine if the deer was taken illegally. If its got a tag on its ear or antler he is done and on his way.
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Re: Once we get tags...
[Re: turkey247]
#1651130
02/14/16 03:49 AM
02/14/16 03:49 AM
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Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,739 Jasper, Alabama
ValleyDawg
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I'd love to see the state go to a tag system! 3 bucks 6 does given with the purchase of each license. All lifetime license holders would present their license at any place of business that sold license and receive a free book of tags. Any child wishing to hunt could either use their supervising hunters tags or pass a hunters education course and present their CC# in exchange for their personal tags until they are 16 when license are required. Seems like common sense but unfortunately that doesn't exist in our state government. All mom&pop stores could be tag stations and every tagged deer reported by the store to the state would get a $1 issuance just like they do when they sell a license. 6 doe tags! That's the same as 100 or infinity. Keep in mind that every lease or hunting camp is not like uours! Some of us hunt large tracts of land with as few hunters as possible and need to shoot quite a few does just to maintain age structure of the herd. And there are still some areas that can stand excessive doe harvest. I for one think it's a great practice to shoot twice as many does as you shoot bucks especially when you are trying to maintain a herd. If you feel 6 is to many you're not require to shoot any but don't tell the guy 2 counties over he cant!!! None of that really changes the point - that 6 doe tags for every hunter is the same as it is today regarding doe harvest. Like I said - may as well be 100 - it won't change whatever the current doe harvest is today. So - the point is why even spend resources to have doe tags if you are gonna issue that many. May as well just have buck tags and no change to doe harvest regulations. That's the only point I was making. No need to get that defensive and assume there was any other agenda behind it. 6 doe tags should cut the number of does taken. That doesnt mean everyone will shoot all six does. Some people dont shoot does at all and some like me usually take about 2 does a year to eat. How it really helps is that right now we have a little over 3 months of hunting, lets say 100 days. A doe a day means each hunter can legally kill 100 does. Those are just numbers and no one probably kills that many but i am sure some are killin 30+. Once the numbers go up in the state, then tag quantities can go up.
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Re: Once we get tags...
[Re: ValleyDawg]
#1651168
02/14/16 05:00 AM
02/14/16 05:00 AM
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Posts: 49 Chunchula Alabama
swampcracker
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I think your right. As old Earl use to say WAKE Up America! And Only You can control Trigger Finger itch. You Want to help the deer number join a group. Donate some time to improve the land For God's sake feed Some on your property. When did it become a sin to help the herd in hard time. Shoot some coyote trap some. Bug the Gamewarden when you SEE them old boys kill em off the road in September. I meen he'll every one has kill lights with corn piles under them shots all night from September to March around here. Nothing is done about it Cus our man in green is running his ass off and y'all want to give him one more thing to check on the honest guys. That's about like new gun laws. A Joke. Tags would actually help the game warden. When he peeks into the bed of a truck he doesnt have to ask any questions or try to determine if the deer was taken illegally. If its got a tag on its ear or antler he is done and on his way. And I don't know how many times you've been stopped by a gamewarden but if you got a buck he wants to see your sheet your license all right then. We have a system that tells that. I would like to know how long some of y'all have hunted. To think that southern deer hunting is easy and you should be able to just walk outside and see deer. Some of y'all won't be happy till it's Just like Europe where only the supper rich hunt. And the state control's every part of it. We can call it Caliabama.
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Re: Once we get tags...
[Re: Remington270]
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02/14/16 07:01 AM
02/14/16 07:01 AM
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Posts: 3,587 Demop
1bamashooter
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Whole bunch of big gov liberals on here it's sad.
Keep your booger hooker off the bang switch.
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