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Re: Once we get tags... [Re: swampcracker] #1651274
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Originally Posted by swampcracker
Originally Posted by ValleyDawg
Originally Posted by swampcracker
I think your right. As old Earl use to say WAKE Up America! And Only You can control Trigger Finger itch. You Want to help the deer number join a group. Donate some time to improve the land For God's sake feed Some on your property. When did it become a sin to help the herd in hard time. Shoot some coyote trap some. Bug the Gamewarden when you SEE them old boys kill em off the road in September. I meen he'll every one has kill lights with corn piles under them shots all night from September to March around here. Nothing is done about it Cus our man in green is running his ass off and y'all want to give him one more thing to check on the honest guys. That's about like new gun laws. A Joke.


Tags would actually help the game warden. When he peeks into the bed of a truck he doesnt have to ask any questions or try to determine if the deer was taken illegally. If its got a tag on its ear or antler he is done and on his way.

And I don't know how many times you've been stopped by a gamewarden but if you got a buck he wants to see your sheet your license all right then. We have a system that tells that. I would like to know how long some of y'all have hunted. To think that southern deer hunting is easy and you should be able to just walk outside and see deer. Some of y'all won't be happy till it's Just like Europe where only the supper rich hunt. And the state control's every part of it. We can call it Caliabama.


Take your tinfoil hat off. Nobody here is trying to take away your hunting rights or even infringe on them. No one is trying to raise the cost of your license either. Not even trying to make it where deer hunting is easy. Its not a sport to me. Its a way of life and a way to provide extra food. Unfortunately some regulations have to be made to keep some idiots from killing every deer in the state and wiping out the deer for future generations of hunters. Take a lesson from what happened to the american bison. Almost got completely wiped out. Could have been prevented with common sense measures.
The current papers we have now dont work. People just print out 100 of them at the beginning of the season and just throw it away when once they get the deer home. Doesnt work. Tags will cut that out. Thats it.
The only people it will burden will be people who want to break the law.
Trust me i dont want a ton of government interference in my everyday life either. A tag system will not have anymore interference than we have now, unless you are trying to kill over your limit.

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Originally Posted by 1bamashooter
Whole bunch of big gov liberals on here it's sad.


What makes you say that?? They just heard Billy Bobby's brother's cousin's wife's uncle's daughter is married to a guy that heard at work that a friend heard that his cousin's friend killed 4 bucks and 2 does this year and that's why they ain't seeing nothing by the corn pile that is 101 yards way behind a bush just off the food plot 3 Counties over. So by Gumby the guvment gotta fix them laws cause everybody's killing too many deers that ain't GINORMOUS!! Them tags will fix that and it won't never happen again!

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Re: Once we get tags... [Re: swampcracker] #1651308
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Originally Posted by swampcracker
Originally Posted by ValleyDawg
Originally Posted by swampcracker
I think your right. As old Earl use to say WAKE Up America! And Only You can control Trigger Finger itch. You Want to help the deer number join a group. Donate some time to improve the land For God's sake feed Some on your property. When did it become a sin to help the herd in hard time. Shoot some coyote trap some. Bug the Gamewarden when you SEE them old boys kill em off the road in September. I meen he'll every one has kill lights with corn piles under them shots all night from September to March around here. Nothing is done about it Cus our man in green is running his ass off and y'all want to give him one more thing to check on the honest guys. That's about like new gun laws. A Joke.


Tags would actually help the game warden. When he peeks into the bed of a truck he doesnt have to ask any questions or try to determine if the deer was taken illegally. If its got a tag on its ear or antler he is done and on his way.

And I don't know how many times you've been stopped by a gamewarden but if you got a buck he wants to see your sheet your license all right then. We have a system that tells that. I would like to know how long some of y'all have hunted. To think that southern deer hunting is easy and you should be able to just walk outside and see deer. Some of y'all won't be happy till it's Just like Europe where only the supper rich hunt. And the state control's every part of it. We can call it Caliabama.

I'm 39 years old and have been hunting religiously since I was knee high to a grasshopper
Where I hunt if you can't kill a deer every other day you go out you might want to try fishing!

Re: Once we get tags... [Re: 1bamashooter] #1651316
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Originally Posted by 1bamashooter
Whole bunch of big gov liberals on here it's sad.


Yep.


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Originally Posted by Hogwild
I think Bernie Sanders is gonna way more Votes than expected out of this current group here on Aldeer........

SMH


And yep.

Damn sad

Re: Once we get tags... [Re: ValleyDawg] #1651338
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Originally Posted by ValleyDawg
Originally Posted by swampcracker
Originally Posted by ValleyDawg
Originally Posted by swampcracker
I think your right. As old Earl use to say WAKE Up America! And Only You can control Trigger Finger itch. You Want to help the deer number join a group. Donate some time to improve the land For God's sake feed Some on your property. When did it become a sin to help the herd in hard time. Shoot some coyote trap some. Bug the Gamewarden when you SEE them old boys kill em off the road in September. I meen he'll every one has kill lights with corn piles under them shots all night from September to March around here. Nothing is done about it Cus our man in green is running his ass off and y'all want to give him one more thing to check on the honest guys. That's about like new gun laws. A Joke.


Tags would actually help the game warden. When he peeks into the bed of a truck he doesnt have to ask any questions or try to determine if the deer was taken illegally. If its got a tag on its ear or antler he is done and on his way.

And I don't know how many times you've been stopped by a gamewarden but if you got a buck he wants to see your sheet your license all right then. We have a system that tells that. I would like to know how long some of y'all have hunted. To think that southern deer hunting is easy and you should be able to just walk outside and see deer. Some of y'all won't be happy till it's Just like Europe where only the supper rich hunt. And the state control's every part of it. We can call it Caliabama.


Take your tinfoil hat off. Nobody here is trying to take away your hunting rights or even infringe on them. No one is trying to raise the cost of your license either. Not even trying to make it where deer hunting is easy. Its not a sport to me. Its a way of life and a way to provide extra food. Unfortunately some regulations have to be made to keep some idiots from killing every deer in the state and wiping out the deer for future generations of hunters. Take a lesson from what happened to the american bison. Almost got completely wiped out. Could have been prevented with common sense measures.
The current papers we have now dont work. People just print out 100 of them at the beginning of the season and just throw it away when once they get the deer home. Doesnt work. Tags will cut that out. Thats it.
The only people it will burden will be people who want to break the law.
Trust me i dont want a ton of government interference in my everyday life either. A tag system will not have anymore interference than we have now, unless you are trying to kill over your limit.
first off I remember hunting all year to see a deer. Deer hunting is better now than ever sure we have ups and downs. Let me tell you what this will do. First off you'll get tags it Will be probably 2-Bucks 3-does with the bucks having 4 point on one side. Then your going to see land lease prices jump up in Alabama again (after all we a trophy state now) Then your WMAs are going to go to quota hunts like all of Florida's good ones did. I've seen How this works when I leased my Georiga club 12,500 acres it was for 1$ per acre. Went to 8$ I let it go. No that land 20$ per acre Because some jackleg thinks it's Dooley Co it's got to be worth it. I own my own land. But you guys keep it up and see if y'all can afford to hunt. Once they make Rules they don't like to change them back. I'd like to know how much you guys that want change hunt predators how often do y'all police your land how much feed and seed do you put out to maintain the deer on your land you hunt? Because there is more to Deer management than tags. And I don't need some 25 yr old kid in a office telling me what I need around my place I hunt and live.

Re: Once we get tags... [Re: swampcracker] #1651357
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Originally Posted by swampcracker
Originally Posted by ValleyDawg
Originally Posted by swampcracker
Originally Posted by ValleyDawg
[quote=swampcracker]I think your right. As old Earl use to say WAKE Up America! And Only You can control Trigger Finger itch. You Want to help the deer number join a group. Donate some time to improve the land For God's sake feed Some on your property. When did it become a sin to help the herd in hard time. Shoot some coyote trap some. Bug the Gamewarden when you SEE them old boys kill em off the road in September. I meen he'll every one has kill lights with corn piles under them shots all night from September to March around here. Nothing is done about it Cus our man in green is running his ass off and y'all want to give him one more thing to check on the honest guys. That's about like new gun laws. A Joke.


Tags would actually help the game warden. When he peeks into the bed of a truck he doesnt have to ask any questions or try to determine if the deer was taken illegally. If its got a tag on its ear or antler he is done and on his way.

And I don't know how many times you've been stopped by a gamewarden but if you got a buck he wants to see your sheet your license all right then. We have a system that tells that. I would like to know how long some of y'all have hunted. To think that southern deer hunting is easy and you should be able to just walk outside and see deer. Some of y'all won't be happy till it's Just like Europe where only the supper rich hunt. And the state control's every part of it. We can call it Caliabama.


Take your tinfoil hat off. Nobody here is trying to take away your hunting rights or even infringe on them. No one is trying to raise the cost of your license either. Not even trying to make it where deer hunting is easy. Its not a sport to me. Its a way of life and a way to provide extra food. Unfortunately some regulations have to be made to keep some idiots from killing every deer in the state and wiping out the deer for future generations of hunters. Take a lesson from what happened to the american bison. Almost got completely wiped out. Could have been prevented with common sense measures.
The current papers we have now dont work. People just print out 100 of them at the beginning of the season and just throw it away when once they get the deer home. Doesnt work. Tags will cut that out. Thats it.
The only people it will burden will be people who want to break the law.
Trust me i dont want a ton of government interference in my everyday life either. A tag system will not have anymore interference than we have now, unless you are trying to kill over your limit.
first off I remember hunting all year to see a deer. Deer hunting is better now than ever sure we have ups and downs. Let me tell you what this will do. First off you'll get tags it Will be probably 2-Bucks 3-does with the bucks having 4 point on one side. Then your going to see land lease prices jump up in Alabama again (after all we a trophy state now) Then your WMAs are going to go to quota hunts like all of Florida's good ones did. I've seen How this works when I leased my Georiga club 12,500 acres it was for 1$ per acre. Went to 8$ I let it go. No that land 20$ per acre Because some jackleg thinks it's Dooley Co it's got to be worth it. I own my own land. But you guys keep it up and see if y'all can afford to hunt. Once they make Rules they don't like to change them back. I'd like to know how much you guys that want change hunt predators how often do y'all police your land how much feed and seed do you put out to maintain the deer on your land you hunt? Because there is more to Deer management than tags. And I don't need some 25 yr old kid in a office telling me what I need around my place I hunt and live.[/quote]
I trap all summer matter of fact I'll have them out tomorrow.
I spend on average 2-3 days a week on my 7400 acres.
We have a 5 doe per membership limit and try to shoot mature bucks only.
I say try because we have numerous youngsters and few inexperienced hunters.
When I first started hunting it was nothing to see 20-30 deer in a hunt, now 4-8 deer a hunt is about average.
Now I can go out and just climb in a shooting house on a greenfield and not see a single deer. To me that's not hunting that's just trying to get lucky.
In the rut with the use of cameras it's easy to key in on a buck that is visiting a field on a schedule.
Hell my 10 year old shot 3 bucks this year, 2 of them I let walk and they were both mature deer. 1 was 4.5 yo the other 5.5

Re: Once we get tags... [Re: Remington270] #1651386
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Man..I dont know why anyone wants more regulations OR more costs.....SMH.
It isnt going to FIX anything.

Re: Once we get tags... [Re: Stikman] #1651485
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Sounds like you need to stop shooting 5 does and 3 bucks per member then. Or cut down on membership not have everyone in the whole state bend to more rules because you don't see deer every sit. I meen I'd be ecstatic if my grandson killed 3 mature bucks in a season. And what's wrong with 4 deer a hunt? Oh Its not 20 and being easy to key in on a buck sounds like you got it tuff. Come on guys.

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Originally Posted by Stikman


Now I can go out and just climb in a shooting house on a greenfield and not see a single deer. To me that's not hunting that's just trying to get lucky.


Coming from the guy that said if you can't kill a deer every other hunt where he hunts you should take up fishing... lol

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Re: Once we get tags... [Re: ozarktroutbum] #1651510
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Originally Posted by ozarktroutbum
Originally Posted by Stikman


Now I can go out and just climb in a shooting house on a greenfield and not see a single deer. To me that's not hunting that's just trying to get lucky.


Coming from the guy that said if you can't kill a deer every other hunt where he hunts you should take up fishing... lol


But don't you see tags will fix that. Not sure how but they will I'm almost positive, maybe, but probably not, but then again.....huh?? It's more regulations and laws so it's got to fix it, yeah, that's it!


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Originally Posted by outdoorobsession
Man..I dont know why anyone wants more regulations OR more costs.....SMH.
It isnt going to FIX anything.


It's not really more regulations, it is a way to enforce the ones we already have. There is already government involvement in hunting. The problem is the gov involvement under the current regs is useless bc it is not efficient or useful. The regs already say you can only take 3 bucks a year, all tags will do is make it easier to enforce that.

Re: Once we get tags... [Re: ValleyDawg] #1651540
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Originally Posted by ValleyDawg
Originally Posted by outdoorobsession
Man..I dont know why anyone wants more regulations OR more costs.....SMH.
It isnt going to FIX anything.


It's not really more regulations, it is a way to enforce the ones we already have. There is already government involvement in hunting. The problem is the gov involvement under the current regs is useless bc it is not efficient or useful. The regs already say you can only take 3 bucks a year, all tags will do is make it easier to enforce that.


Well said.

I like people arguing the opposite find this hard to understand why it's not a no brainer.

Re: Once we get tags... [Re: Remington270] #1651568
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I'd like to know what y'all think it is messing your hunting up bubba killing 8 does a yr to eat or Trophy Tom killing that extra Monster buck he just couldn't pass up. Because Florida's a place that don't hardly shoot does and there hunting sucks. I never killed more than 5 bucks a year there. Or Dooley county Georgia has the best bucks of any place I've seen and only can shoot 8 point 15" wide there it sucks sometimes too and I've shot 4 bucks in 10 years there. So what's better?

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Let me ask yall anti tag people somthing. Really a yes or no question?
Do yall believe that deer hunting should be open season, as many as you can kill, all year long, by any means necessary? I am talking hunting them anytime, anywhere, with whatever weapon. Do you think that should be the case? Yes or no?

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bama will never be a trophy state because of the likes of billy bob.myself and most of us want the best of both worlds and know we cant have it.there needs to be a population consenus of deer taken in each zone,if 1 has more or better deer than 2 regulate tags accordingly .try this for say 3-5 years if it works stick with it,if it dont drop back and punt.as a whole i think most want to do the right thing,. i do for my sons sake.we live in a world of change just look around its sad but the old days are about gone

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Originally Posted by ValleyDawg
Let me ask yall anti tag people somthing. Really a yes or no question?
Do yall believe that deer hunting should be open season, as many as you can kill, all year long, by any means necessary? I am talking hunting them anytime, anywhere, with whatever weapon. Do you think that should be the case? Yes or no?


This right here, folks, is the very definition of a "strawman argument".

In 5 pages now, no one has stated any of the such, but you're attempting to introduce something this ludicrous to attempt to help you make some kind of point?

crazy


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We have a 5 doe per member limit!
I never said that everyone shoots their 5!
I didn't shoot any does this year but I had a guest shoot 1 and my son shot 2.
I don't see anything wrong with seeing anything wrong with with seeing only 4 deer a hunt. What I was trying to say was if you hunt out of a shooting house on a greenfield every day then don't expect to see deer!
I very rarely hunt out of a kill box mainly because it takes away my ability to hear and personally I think it's lazy and boring!
Do yall really think that killing a deer is that big of a challenge?
Off the top of my head I think I let somewhere around 30 bucks walk this year and I didn't go out hunting until a week after Christmas.
My personal deer sightings were 150+ deer.
Somewhere around 85 total deer killed on 7400 acres.
They're called wood rats for a reason.
I don't need to shoot a 150 inch deer to make my season, all I need is a place for my kids to learn the sport.
But by the attitude of some it appears to me that tall might be stretching a few laws and have something to hide!

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Nothing is a yes or no here lol but h_ _ l no. The deer are already over hunted. This will start a new topic or a old one is the season to long. This may go on to infinity

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Originally Posted by hunterbuck
Originally Posted by ValleyDawg
Let me ask yall anti tag people somthing. Really a yes or no question?
Do yall believe that deer hunting should be open season, as many as you can kill, all year long, by any means necessary? I am talking hunting them anytime, anywhere, with whatever weapon. Do you think that should be the case? Yes or no?


This right here, folks, is the very definition of a "strawman argument".

In 5 pages now, no one has stated any of the such, but you're attempting to introduce something this ludicrous to attempt to help you make some kind of point?

crazy


First of all, your avatar is amazing.
The point to that statement is that some on this thread are trying to insinuate that anyone who wants any regulations are all of a sudden pro big government and socialist. However most would argue that the above regulations are necessary to preserving a healthy heard to be enjoyed by future generations.
The fact of the matter is the government is already involved. Might as well be useful involvement. Enforcing the 3 buck limit with tags that take 3 seconds to put on the animal sems pretty reasonable.

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