Ok.....call me all the names you wish. Tell me how ignorant I am and that I do not know anything about dogs...or deer. Make childish references to my red neck or my backwoods ways. Whatever you like! Not gonna bother me not one bit!!!!

I do not think that some of you have even looked at the referenced pictures!

Tell me which one of these dogs in this picture posseses the speed OR stamina to run down a HEALTHY mature buck.
And, make sure that you notice the bites to the rear end that a couple have mentioned!


Now, about those bite marks to the rear.....these dogs are clearly attacking the head. That is a trait that most dogs have, to attack the head. It is a trait that has to be bred out of them for stock use.


Now, this one.....the deer is 'down' and lying prone. That is normal once they go into shock. The dogs go to the rear-end to begin eating......and will basically eat him alive if allowed.


My point in this IS......either MORE dogs/coyotes were involved and for some reason abandoned the chase. Or, the deer was weak and debilitated to the point that he could not escape. But, my experience tells me that THESE dogs were not the original culprit!
Maybe he was that badly rutted down? Maybe he had been shot, injured and not recovered? Maybe it was simply old age??
And, MAYBE he would have recovered and got 'well' if not for this??
None of us know!
But, again, I just do not think that these 3 mutts were the Root Cause of this death.

That has absolutley ZERO to do with the fact that I hate free-ranging dogs and people who allow their 'yard dogs' to roam all over creation. Just what I see.

So what you're saying is there might have been some more dogs inviolved. In that case a man would be better off bringing more than 3 shells. Makes sense to me

Deer do not replace oxygen in their blood nearly as fast as dogs. Its a fact.

Not to mention what the bastages do to yearling fawns.

I don't think anyone actually would.

i cant say what others folks have seen, but at our club. We'll turn loose 20-30 dogs at a time. And some of them are very good at what they do. Most run either treeing walker or english walkers. They have never caught a deer that wasnt injured, not even a yearling.

I dont know about how quich they get oxgen in ther blood, but do know that even after the dogs are run down, and we dump a fresh pack on a running deer, they still cant catch the deer.

That is a possibility.

I find it strange that a healthy deer is out in the middle of a field like that while pursued by dogs. Why would a healthy deer not be headed into the thickest woods they can find?

I have hunted with feral dogs for the last ten years. The reason for the heavy population was due to a road (bridge) being closed that ran in between our property and the large population of welfare recipients that lived near or on that road. In this time I've seen some mean mangy mutts come out of the swamp for their last stroll before being on the receiving end of 185 grain ballistic tip coming out of a 7mm magnum. I've seen these feral dogs chase and kill rabbits, coons, possums, turkey poults and each other but never a deer. I once had three of them fight each other over a doe in heat scent pad I had put on a tree limb forty yards from my stand. So I'm sure they would try to run down and kill a healthy deer but I haven't seen it happen nor any others that hunt with us. At this time our feral dog population is in check.

If men can do it...dogs can easily...especially if the der is in an weakened state...
Look up Cape Hunting dogs also...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=826HMLoiE_o

I hunted the Bone Swamp with Bain Henderson back in the mid 70s on a dog drive. Drivers were from La and had a bunch of Cats. Those dogs caught and killed 3-4 deer on the drives. Uninjured, healthy deer. Ran em to ground and killed em. I was there and I saw the dogs and the dead deer. EVERY deer that came by my stand that day was hauling arse, not one slippin or sneaking by...running like the hounds of Hell were after them.

One of those big male Cats, bit the snot out of a hunter just for staring at it. LOL

That's funny, I've heard that same story from Tommy H.. I'd like to see them Catahoula's getting after em. As fast a my OMC's are I don't doubt it for a minute. Not many folks have had the pleasure of being in Bone Swamp or the gravel lake pond off the river!

just an intresting fyi about Cats. A popular color now for bulldogs is merle. Since this isnt an original color for the breed. They've come to the conclusion that hog hunters have mixed cats and bulldogs (bd) and that is what started this color. Even though now you can get a dog that would appear to be full blooded bd with merle color, but it has cat in its lineage.

Whether or not the dogs chased down the "healthy" deer or not nobody knows. We had a chow at one of my old camps that would climb on top of hay bales right beside a corn field and wait for deer to walk by. He never had to chase anything. We finally took care of him one morning.

Dogs can dang sure catch a deer especially in open country where they can run by sight and dont have to waste time trailing. In a lot of AL a deer can give a short burst of speed and get out of sight but in open country they will just wear them out til they stop and bay. They hunt coyotes with dogs and they have way more stamina and almost as much speed as a deer. I have personally seen on one occasion back in the early 80's, two walkers and a black and tan catch a 4 pt that we'd been running for 4-5 hours. Didnt have enough standers and they kept jumping sections on us and we kept throwing fresh dogs on them. Deer finally got tired and wedged itself into a jungle. We had just killed the 8 pt that was running with it about 5 minutes earlier and thought the 4 pt had given them the slip. I was trying to catch the remaining dogs up and they kept circling this 20x20 ft wide briar patch jungle that was about head high and they refused to come to me. I walked over grabbed one's collar that was halfway into the mess and he snapped at me so I kicked the piss out of him and he went airborne and ended up in the jungle. The other two immediately followed him and about half a second later all heck broke loose. That 4 pt reared up on his back legs right in the middle of that crap with one of the walkers hanging from his neck while the two were tearing at his rear trying to hamstring him. I walked/ran back to the truck and got my rifle and dispatched him. This deer had not been shot. He was just slap run out. There was not a hole in him when I skinned him out other than the one in his head where I put him out of his misery with the dogs still hanging on to him. That deer just finally gave up.

Y'all STILL ain't looked at the pictures...... LMAO

We ain't talking about athletic hunting dogs. We are talking fatass yard dogs!

Carry on, fellows.
The obvious truth does not fit the agenda for this thread.

I thought we were talking about shooting dogs?

Well it could have been a fat ass yard deer as well.....
Corn fed fat ass backyard doe!!!!!
Yep fair game for those fat ass yard dogs.

Something was apparently wrong with this deer before it caught the attention from these dogs.
If you take a healthy dog and dump it off in the middle of the woods he will scavenge to stay alive and depending on the breed might show an aggression towards other animals but without human interaction they will definitely starve to death. Unlike a house cat that still has the instincts to hunt for food and will thrive without human interaction and turn feral. Dogs have been domesticated for so long they don't have the instinct to hunt for food. Their instinct is totally for chase(hounds) and attack(catch dog) but not to hunt. A hunting pack requires a pack mentality with a lead alfa from a group of family members. These pictures are just a group of dogs that roam around and stumbled on an opportunity.

Now, someone else gets it!

And, the folks that are letting them run loose and roam all over other folks property should have their Rights to own 'pets' taken away. It is uncalled for.