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Re: Can't get tss to patern
[Re: N2TRKYS]
#1679936
03/08/16 12:18 PM
03/08/16 12:18 PM
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Joined: Jul 2005
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Hampton Cove
foldemup
Booner
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Booner
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Hampton Cove
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You sure you loading them correctly? x2
If you want to always win, never play anyone better than you!
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Re: Can't get tss to patern
[Re: JUGHEAD]
#1679952
03/08/16 12:32 PM
03/08/16 12:32 PM
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Boxes Cove
2Dogs
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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It's my 1st year loading tss and so far I'm getting awful patterns. Shooting it out of remington 11-87 compact. Have shot it out of carlsons extended .575 choke and factory full,best pattern is 150 in the 10. Same carlson choke puts 170 of federal heavyweight in 10. Anybody have a recommendation of another choke that might pattern better? You're just too open pal. Some guns are like that for whatever reason and also for whatever reason...I haven't had a gun YET that will shoot a pattern worth a chit with either a flush or extended Carlson's choke. You're gonna have to choke it down some and use a ported, quality turkey choke most likely. Borrow somebody's IC .555 and try it before you try anything else. That cheapo .565 Tru-glo (Gobble Stopper - GSX) that wmd mentioned has also proven to be real consistent in the short Remington barrels too (what we use in my son's gun). My little stacked barrel CZ is 328 in 10 @ 40 with a Carlson .585 flush mount with 1 5/8 oz of 9s.
"Why do you ask"?
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Re: Can't get tss to patern
[Re: N2TRKYS]
#1679960
03/08/16 12:36 PM
03/08/16 12:36 PM
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Bremen GA
matthewgentry
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4 point
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You sure you loading them correctly? pretty sure me and buddy loaded them together and his 870 compact put up 320/180 with tight wad choke. I'm gonna borrow it and see what mine does with that choke
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Re: Can't get tss to patern
[Re: 2Dogs]
#1679962
03/08/16 12:38 PM
03/08/16 12:38 PM
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JUGHEAD
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My little stacked barrel CZ is 328 in 10 @ 40 with a Carlson .585 flush mount with 1 5/8 oz of 9s. I'm aware pal. You and lots of other folks too. However, as my experience shows...there are certainly exception guns that don't fit the cheapo choke mold as I have had several of them myself. Hence, his might also be one of the exceptions. My Mossberg was absolutely TERRIBLE (1 5/8 oz. load of straight 9's) with cheapo, more open chokes and yet I have only seen a couple other combos that will throw a more pretty, even, 20" death ray, with very few pellets lost outside of the 20, like that gun would do with a .555 Indian Creek. I wish I could explain why some guns don't fit the mold but I haven't been able to thus far!
Last edited by JUGHEAD; 03/08/16 12:42 PM.
"The only reason I shoot a 3.5" shell for turkeys is because they don't make a 4" one." - t123winters
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Re: Can't get tss to patern
[Re: matthewgentry]
#1680009
03/08/16 01:14 PM
03/08/16 01:14 PM
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Hartselle Al.
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Old Mossy Horns
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If it was me, I would do as jughead said and try the Indian creek before anything else.
Do you want to hear him gobble, or do you want to kill him.
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Re: Can't get tss to patern
[Re: JUGHEAD]
#1680053
03/08/16 01:47 PM
03/08/16 01:47 PM
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Boxes Cove
2Dogs
Freak of Nature
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My little stacked barrel CZ is 328 in 10 @ 40 with a Carlson .585 flush mount with 1 5/8 oz of 9s. I'm aware pal. You and lots of other folks too. However, as my experience shows...there are certainly exception guns that don't fit the cheapo choke mold as I have had several of them myself. Hence, his might also be one of the exceptions. My Mossberg was absolutely TERRIBLE (1 5/8 oz. load of straight 9's) with cheapo, more open chokes and yet I have only seen a couple other combos that will throw a more pretty, even, 20" death ray, with very few pellets lost outside of the 20, like that gun would do with a .555 Indian Creek. I wish I could explain why some guns don't fit the mold but I haven't been able to thus far! I have a hard time wrapping my head around some of these patterns too. Some guns have to have a .570 or even smaller to get what others do with .585 or even larger with the same load.  Heck, I'm going to a .600 improved modified in my bottom barrel.
Last edited by 2Dogs; 03/08/16 01:49 PM.
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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Re: Can't get tss to patern
[Re: matthewgentry]
#1680099
03/08/16 02:34 PM
03/08/16 02:34 PM
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Madison, AL
wmd
10 point
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I would definitely try the IC or something tighter like the Truglo. I shoot a RSF in my son's 1187 and got similar numbers; I think it was 190/190'ish (that 380 number seems to be my upper limit for some reason). I already knew it shot a good 10 ring with the Truglo .565 but I was trying to put more of the missing pellets in the 20 (and failed). I am going to try to shoot it tomorrow with a .555 and .562 IC to see how it looks. I think the 1187s are a little more finicky than the 870s for some reason.
"Any way you look at it, most of the problems facing baboons can be expressed in two words: other baboons" -
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Re: Can't get tss to patern
[Re: matthewgentry]
#1680410
03/08/16 05:25 PM
03/08/16 05:25 PM
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Bear Creek, NC
11020
spike
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spike
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Bear Creek, NC
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Is the XLS load faster than stubby XL? I find that the faster recipes need more choke. Slower loads seem to like the more open chokes. IME.
I think cheap chokes work most times, but seems like Indian Creek .562 works every time.
Last edited by 11020; 03/08/16 05:26 PM.
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Re: Can't get tss to patern
[Re: 11020]
#1680434
03/08/16 05:36 PM
03/08/16 05:36 PM
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Hartselle Al.
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Old Mossy Horns
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Is the XLS load faster than stubby XL? I find that the faster recipes need more choke. Slower loads seem to like the more open chokes. IME.
I think cheap chokes work most times, but seems like Indian Creek .562 works every time. I think they are about the same speed.
Do you want to hear him gobble, or do you want to kill him.
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Re: Can't get tss to patern
[Re: hawglips]
#1681110
03/09/16 11:59 AM
03/09/16 11:59 AM
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Bremen GA
matthewgentry
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Matthew, I'm thinking of something here.
What's the barrel length of that gun of yours? it's the compact model with 21" barrell
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