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youth shotgun #1701975
03/29/16 08:15 AM
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My son is really interested in Turkey hunting. He is going with me every morning. He is only 5, but a pretty stout and tough 5yo. His gun safety is better than most I would say, but of course not this would be a gun that he would literally be sitting in my lap on a rest with me whispering in his ear every step to take (knock off safety, aim, pull the trigger, etc...) Mossberg makes a super mini bantam that has a 10.5" LOP, with a spacer that can go up to 11.5". It's available in 20 ga. and .410, the 20 ga. uses chokes and the .410 is a modified bore barrel.

Federal makes some 20 ga. turkey loads 2-3/4" shells and claim 47% less recoil. Or should I stick with the .410 which I am sure will have nearly zero felt recoil?

If I go with the .410 what are my options for a turkey load, how affective will be?

Re: youth shotgun [Re: hosscat] #1702008
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in for interest. id like to know a good 410 load as well as I just got my first gun, 410, from my dads


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Re: youth shotgun [Re: hosscat] #1702011
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I bought Baker a viper G2 20 ga automatic when he was 6, abt $300 and is lights out with a jelly head

Re: youth shotgun [Re: hosscat] #1702047
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Single shot .410, go find one at a pawn shop. Take a saw to the stock, load some tss.

This is me at your sons age with the above setup, except it was lead back then.


Re: youth shotgun [Re: hosscat] #1702074
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Atoler that is exactly what I have. not sure the time of make early 80s I would assume. Problem is I don't have the equipment or the knowhow to load some up for it.


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Re: youth shotgun [Re: hosscat] #1702123
03/29/16 11:49 AM
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Don't let that stop you from loading pal. If you can follow directions you can load. All you need besides shell components is a digital scale ($30) and a roll crimper ($25). I have a drill press but some load with a handheld drill I think. It's super easy!


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Re: youth shotgun [Re: hosscat] #1702160
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I already have everything for reloading because I reload for rifles. Shotguns are totally new as I have never done anything with a shotgun because I've never had anywhere to go. Loading a rifle cartridge is easy I'm not sure about all the steps to a shotshell. I do wanna load some up one day though just need a little more understanding. Guess I just need to find a YouTube video on it.


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Re: youth shotgun [Re: hosscat] #1702173
03/29/16 01:12 PM
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I have loaded rifle shells for years, just started loading TSS this spring. Loading shot shells is MUCH easier than loading for a rifle.

Start with a new shell (comes with primer installed)
Weigh powder and dump it into shell
Insert nitro card and push it down onto top of powder
Push wad (shot cup) onto top of nitro card
Put thin plastic film (mylar) inside wad
Insert felt in bottom of wad
Weigh shot and dump it in wad
Weigh buffer and put it on top of shot, stir or vibrate this throughout shot
Place overshot card on top of shot
Roll crimp
Shoot

Lonster

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Re: youth shotgun [Re: Lonster] #1702179
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Originally Posted By: Lonster
I have loaded rifle shells for years, just started loading TSS this spring. Loading shot shells is MUCH easier than loading for a rifle.

Start with a new shell (comes with primer installed)
Weigh powder and dump it into shell
Insert nitro card and push it down onto top of powder
Push wad (shot cup) onto top of nitro card
Put thin plastic film (mylar) inside wad
Insert felt in bottom of wad
Weigh shot and dump it in wad
Weigh buffer and put it on top of shot, stir or vibrate this throughout shot
Place overshot card on top of shot
Roll crimp
Shoot

Lonster


Loading for the .410 recipe is even easier than this....less components in the .410


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Re: youth shotgun [Re: hosscat] #1702205
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Thanks for the tips. I will try and search through here what components i need. From what I have read on here the shot is hard to come by so may be next year before I have everything to load. Turkey hunting with the 410 has always interested me greatly and I would be more than excited to kill one with a 410


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Re: youth shotgun [Re: hosscat] #1702207
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Pm hawglips on here and he will send you the list of components with the shot

Re: youth shotgun [Re: hosscat] #1702214
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Get a Caldwell Field Pod.

I bought my daughter a viper g2 28 gauge. It shoots good with TSS. I had the stock cut down to 12" length of pull and it fits her good.

Re: youth shotgun [Re: Atoler] #1702216
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Originally Posted By: Atoler
Single shot .410, go find one at a pawn shop. Take a saw to the stock, load some tss.

This is me at your sons age with the above setup, except it was lead back then.



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Re: youth shotgun [Re: hosscat] #1702316
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My son is 7 and he's shooting a h&r snake charmer .410 with a full choke barrel. It patterns great at 30 yards. I got him some hevi shot 3" number 7's ( it's a pheasant load they make). Hasn't had a chance yet as our birds seem to be suffering from lock jaw or they got the memo that I'm coming and hell is coming with me lol. He will have a franchi affinity compact 20 gauge next year and I imagine I'll jump on the tss then as well

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