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Re: I'm proud to be from the south (Alabama) [Re: Geno] #1713701
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Originally Posted By: Geno
The same bunch of people were not discriminating against anyone when they "chose" not to serve people of color and made inter-racial marriages illegal.

Right?


Hold on there. By comparing those two, you're saying being homo isn't a choice, like skin color. Ben Carson makes the point that prisons prove being homo is a choice. Unlike skin color.

Re: I'm proud to be from the south (Alabama) [Re: Cactus_buck] #1713709
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Before or after he said the pyramids were used for grain storage?

Re: I'm proud to be from the south (Alabama) [Re: jbc] #1713721
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Originally Posted By: jbc
Before or after he said the pyramids were used for grain storage?


Forget Carson. Why didn't you answer the question I posed,, above?


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Re: I'm proud to be from the south (Alabama) [Re: Cactus_buck] #1713724
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No, I don't think either of your extreme cases should happen

I believe magazines can post any ad or not post any af they want,

I also think you realize no daycare is taking any 50 year old man.

Re: I'm proud to be from the south (Alabama) [Re: Cactus_buck] #1713743
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The wedding cake and wedding photographer hypothetical senario seems like an ideal niche for a homosexual baker or photographer to advertise to exclusively do gay weddings. Everyone wins

Re: I'm proud to be from the south (Alabama) [Re: jbc] #1713745
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Originally Posted By: jbc
No, I don't think either of your extreme cases should happen

I believe magazines can post any ad or not post any af they want,

I also think you realize no daycare is taking any 50 year old man.


Extreme? Who decides that?

You can choose your gender but not any other life options?

Your discrimination argument, for private business, falls apart under closer observation.


" I do view Jim Waltz as a really good Presidential candidate"
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Re: I'm proud to be from the south (Alabama) [Re: bill] #1713746
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Originally Posted By: bill

Originally Posted By: jbc
No, I don't think either of your extreme cases should happen

I believe magazines can post any ad or not post any af they want,

I also think you realize no daycare is taking any 50 year old man.


Extreme? Who decides that?

You can choose your gender but not any other life options?

Your discrimination argument, for private business, falls apart under closer observation.


A 50 year old enrolling in my child's daycare is an extreme scenario. I just decided it.

Also ridiculous

Re: I'm proud to be from the south (Alabama) [Re: jbc] #1713761
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Originally Posted By: jbc
Originally Posted By: bill

Originally Posted By: jbc
No, I don't think either of your extreme cases should happen

I believe magazines can post any ad or not post any af they want,

I also think you realize no daycare is taking any 50 year old man.


Extreme? Who decides that?

You can choose your gender but not any other life options?

Your discrimination argument, for private business, falls apart under closer observation.


A 50 year old enrolling in my child's daycare is an extreme scenario. I just decided it.


But a man choosing to be a woman isn't?

My business, my rules. I decide who I serve or don't serve. That will lead to discrimination for some but that's part of being a free society. I can tell you that in my business I won't provide services to other business that are in direct contrast to my beliefs. That doesn't mean I won't provide services to a gay person but I wouldn't provide services to an abortion facility or a chapel that performed same sex marriages.

Just as you decided what was acceptable, in.your mind, business owners should have that same luxury.


" I do view Jim Waltz as a really good Presidential candidate"
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Re: I'm proud to be from the south (Alabama) [Re: bill] #1713762
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Originally Posted By: bill

Originally Posted By: jbc
Originally Posted By: bill

Originally Posted By: jbc
No, I don't think either of your extreme cases should happen

I believe magazines can post any ad or not post any af they want,

I also think you realize no daycare is taking any 50 year old man.


Extreme? Who decides that?

You can choose your gender but not any other life options?

Your discrimination argument, for private business, falls apart under closer observation.


A 50 year old enrolling in my child's daycare is an extreme scenario. I just decided it.


But a man choosing to be a woman isn't?

My business, my rules. I decide who I serve or don't serve. That will lead to discrimination for some but that's part of being a free society. I can tell you that in my business I won't provide services to other business that are in direct contrast to my beliefs. That doesn't mean I won't provide services to a gay person but I wouldn't provide services to an abortion facility or a chapel that performed same sex marriages.

Just as you decided what was acceptable, in.your mind, business owners should have that same luxury.


I don't disagree. I'm all for less regulations.

If you'll read my original statement, I just can't Imagine turning away business because of something like that

Re: I'm proud to be from the south (Alabama) [Re: Cactus_buck] #1713763
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to hell with a bunch of faggots and crossdressers. I am getting real damn tired of seeing em every time I turn the TV on. I wear out that remote.....


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Re: I'm proud to be from the south (Alabama) [Re: bill] #1713768
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Originally Posted By: bill

Originally Posted By: jbc
Originally Posted By: bill

Originally Posted By: jbc
No, I don't think either of your extreme cases should happen

I believe magazines can post any ad or not post any af they want,

I also think you realize no daycare is taking any 50 year old man.


Extreme? Who decides that?

You can choose your gender but not any other life options?

Your discrimination argument, for private business, falls apart under closer observation.


A 50 year old enrolling in my child's daycare is an extreme scenario. I just decided it.


But a man choosing to be a woman isn't?

My business, my rules. I decide who I serve or don't serve. That will lead to discrimination for some but that's part of being a free society. I can tell you that in my business I won't provide services to other business that are in direct contrast to my beliefs. That doesn't mean I won't provide services to a gay person but I wouldn't provide services to an abortion facility or a chapel that performed same sex marriages.

Just as you decided what was acceptable, in.your mind, business owners should have that same luxury.


Exactly the same as the department stores refusing to admit people of color.


Whoever is happy will make others happy too. Anne Frank
Re: I'm proud to be from the south (Alabama) [Re: jbc] #1713772
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Originally Posted By: jbc
The wedding cake and wedding photographer hypothetical senario seems like an ideal niche for a homosexual baker or photographer to advertise to exclusively do gay weddings. Everyone wins

You would think that but instead the gays would rather scream discrimination and sue businesses than do that.


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Re: I'm proud to be from the south (Alabama) [Re: Geno] #1713773
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Originally Posted By: Geno
Originally Posted By: bill

Originally Posted By: jbc
Originally Posted By: bill

Originally Posted By: jbc
No, I don't think either of your extreme cases should happen

I believe magazines can post any ad or not post any af they want,

I also think you realize no daycare is taking any 50 year old man.


Extreme? Who decides that?

You can choose your gender but not any other life options?

Your discrimination argument, for private business, falls apart under closer observation.


A 50 year old enrolling in my child's daycare is an extreme scenario. I just decided it.


But a man choosing to be a woman isn't?

My business, my rules. I decide who I serve or don't serve. That will lead to discrimination for some but that's part of being a free society. I can tell you that in my business I won't provide services to other business that are in direct contrast to my beliefs. That doesn't mean I won't provide services to a gay person but I wouldn't provide services to an abortion facility or a chapel that performed same sex marriages.

Just as you decided what was acceptable, in.your mind, business owners should have that same luxury.


Exactly the same as the department stores refusing to admit people of color.

Sorry Geno but that is not even close. Skin color is not a choice unlike sexual preference.....


Life is too short to be small !!

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Re: I'm proud to be from the south (Alabama) [Re: bigt] #1713781
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Originally Posted By: bigt
Originally Posted By: Geno
Originally Posted By: bill

Originally Posted By: jbc
Originally Posted By: bill

Originally Posted By: jbc
No, I don't think either of your extreme cases should happen

I believe magazines can post any ad or not post any af they want,

I also think you realize no daycare is taking any 50 year old man.


Extreme? Who decides that?

You can choose your gender but not any other life options?

Your discrimination argument, for private business, falls apart under closer observation.


A 50 year old enrolling in my child's daycare is an extreme scenario. I just decided it.


But a man choosing to be a woman isn't?

My business, my rules. I decide who I serve or don't serve. That will lead to discrimination for some but that's part of being a free society. I can tell you that in my business I won't provide services to other business that are in direct contrast to my beliefs. That doesn't mean I won't provide services to a gay person but I wouldn't provide services to an abortion facility or a chapel that performed same sex marriages.

Just as you decided what was acceptable, in.your mind, business owners should have that same luxury.


Exactly the same as the department stores refusing to admit people of color.

Sorry Geno but that is not even close. Skin color is not a choice unlike sexual preference.....


When (at what age) did you choose to like girls?


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Re: I'm proud to be from the south (Alabama) [Re: Cactus_buck] #1713786
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Personally, I was born straight, and an Alabama fan.

Don't remember making a choice about either

Re: I'm proud to be from the south (Alabama) [Re: Geno] #1713788
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Originally Posted By: Geno
Originally Posted By: bigt
Originally Posted By: Geno
Originally Posted By: bill

Originally Posted By: jbc
Originally Posted By: bill

Originally Posted By: jbc
No, I don't think either of your extreme cases should happen

I believe magazines can post any ad or not post any af they want,

I also think you realize no daycare is taking any 50 year old man.


Extreme? Who decides that?

You can choose your gender but not any other life options?

Your discrimination argument, for private business, falls apart under closer observation.


A 50 year old enrolling in my child's daycare is an extreme scenario. I just decided it.


But a man choosing to be a woman isn't?

My business, my rules. I decide who I serve or don't serve. That will lead to discrimination for some but that's part of being a free society. I can tell you that in my business I won't provide services to other business that are in direct contrast to my beliefs. That doesn't mean I won't provide services to a gay person but I wouldn't provide services to an abortion facility or a chapel that performed same sex marriages.

Just as you decided what was acceptable, in.your mind, business owners should have that same luxury.


Exactly the same as the department stores refusing to admit people of color.

Sorry Geno but that is not even close. Skin color is not a choice unlike sexual preference.....


When (at what age) did you choose to like girls?

I am not getting into an argument about this ......Geno I am pretty sure I know where you are coming from and that is your opinion and I am fine with that, but my faith and beliefs don't and will never align with yours on this topic. So let's just agree to disagree wink


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Re: I'm proud to be from the south (Alabama) [Re: Geno] #1713798
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Originally Posted By: Geno
Originally Posted By: bigt
Originally Posted By: Geno
Originally Posted By: bill

Originally Posted By: jbc
Originally Posted By: bill

Originally Posted By: jbc
No, I don't think either of your extreme cases should happen

I believe magazines can post any ad or not post any af they want,

I also think you realize no daycare is taking any 50 year old man.


Extreme? Who decides that?

You can choose your gender but not any other life options?

Your discrimination argument, for private business, falls apart under closer observation.


A 50 year old enrolling in my child's daycare is an extreme scenario. I just decided it.


But a man choosing to be a woman isn't?

My business, my rules. I decide who I serve or don't serve. That will lead to discrimination for some but that's part of being a free society. I can tell you that in my business I won't provide services to other business that are in direct contrast to my beliefs. That doesn't mean I won't provide services to a gay person but I wouldn't provide services to an abortion facility or a chapel that performed same sex marriages.

Just as you decided what was acceptable, in.your mind, business owners should have that same luxury.


Exactly the same as the department stores refusing to admit people of color.

Sorry Geno but that is not even close. Skin color is not a choice unlike sexual preference.....


When (at what age) did you choose to like girls?


You have a gay family member don't you?


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Re: I'm proud to be from the south (Alabama) [Re: Geno] #1713799
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Originally Posted By: Geno
Originally Posted By: bill

Originally Posted By: jbc
Originally Posted By: bill

Originally Posted By: jbc
No, I don't think either of your extreme cases should happen

I believe magazines can post any ad or not post any af they want,

I also think you realize no daycare is taking any 50 year old man.


Extreme? Who decides that?

You can choose your gender but not any other life options?

Your discrimination argument, for private business, falls apart under closer observation.


A 50 year old enrolling in my child's daycare is an extreme scenario. I just decided it.


But a man choosing to be a woman isn't?

My business, my rules. I decide who I serve or don't serve. That will lead to discrimination for some but that's part of being a free society. I can tell you that in my business I won't provide services to other business that are in direct contrast to my beliefs. That doesn't mean I won't provide services to a gay person but I wouldn't provide services to an abortion facility or a chapel that performed same sex marriages.

Just as you decided what was acceptable, in.your mind, business owners should have that same luxury.


Exactly the same as the department stores refusing to admit people of color.


So that I'm able to get a clearer picture of what you consider extreme, and grounds for discrimination, are there any lifestyles that I would have grounds to refuse service to?

Should the daycare be forced to accommodate the 50 year old that identified as a 6 year old girl? Before you dismiss that as ridiculous, think about how ridiculous choosing a gender identity seemed to society just 30 years ago.

Give me an example of qualified discrimination, in your opinion, if you believe there is such a thing.


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Re: I'm proud to be from the south (Alabama) [Re: bigt] #1713805
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Originally Posted By: bigt
Originally Posted By: Geno
Originally Posted By: bigt
Originally Posted By: Geno
Originally Posted By: bill

Originally Posted By: jbc
Originally Posted By: bill

Originally Posted By: jbc
No, I don't think either of your extreme cases should happen

I believe magazines can post any ad or not post any af they want,

I also think you realize no daycare is taking any 50 year old man.


Extreme? Who decides that?

You can choose your gender but not any other life options?

Your discrimination argument, for private business, falls apart under closer observation.


A 50 year old enrolling in my child's daycare is an extreme scenario. I just decided it.


But a man choosing to be a woman isn't?

My business, my rules. I decide who I serve or don't serve. That will lead to discrimination for some but that's part of being a free society. I can tell you that in my business I won't provide services to other business that are in direct contrast to my beliefs. That doesn't mean I won't provide services to a gay person but I wouldn't provide services to an abortion facility or a chapel that performed same sex marriages.

Just as you decided what was acceptable, in.your mind, business owners should have that same luxury.


Exactly the same as the department stores refusing to admit people of color.

Sorry Geno but that is not even close. Skin color is not a choice unlike sexual preference.....


When (at what age) did you choose to like girls?

I am not getting into an argument about this ......Geno I am pretty sure I know where you are coming from and that is your opinion and I am fine with that, but my faith and beliefs don't and will never align with yours on this topic. So let's just agree to disagree wink


That I can do.


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Re: I'm proud to be from the south (Alabama) [Re: IDOT] #1713807
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Originally Posted By: IDOT
Originally Posted By: Geno
Originally Posted By: bigt
Originally Posted By: Geno
Originally Posted By: bill

Originally Posted By: jbc
Originally Posted By: bill

Originally Posted By: jbc
No, I don't think either of your extreme cases should happen

I believe magazines can post any ad or not post any af they want,

I also think you realize no daycare is taking any 50 year old man.


Extreme? Who decides that?

You can choose your gender but not any other life options?

Your discrimination argument, for private business, falls apart under closer observation.


A 50 year old enrolling in my child's daycare is an extreme scenario. I just decided it.


But a man choosing to be a woman isn't?

My business, my rules. I decide who I serve or don't serve. That will lead to discrimination for some but that's part of being a free society. I can tell you that in my business I won't provide services to other business that are in direct contrast to my beliefs. That doesn't mean I won't provide services to a gay person but I wouldn't provide services to an abortion facility or a chapel that performed same sex marriages.

Just as you decided what was acceptable, in.your mind, business owners should have that same luxury.


Exactly the same as the department stores refusing to admit people of color.

Sorry Geno but that is not even close. Skin color is not a choice unlike sexual preference.....


When (at what age) did you choose to like girls?


You have a gay family member don't you?


Not that I am aware of. I do have many gay friends.


Whoever is happy will make others happy too. Anne Frank
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