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Re: lease cost
[Re: shooters]
#1713326
04/11/16 11:47 AM
04/11/16 11:47 AM
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Joined: May 2007
Posts: 5,192 Satsuma, AL
Robert D.
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Posts: 5,192
Satsuma, AL
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Sounds like Rayonier really sticks it to you! They have some VASTLY overpaid employees that are the root cause of this. JUST KIDDING Reb
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Re: lease cost
[Re: bigt]
#1714433
04/12/16 03:03 PM
04/12/16 03:03 PM
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Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 25,692 South Alabama
Rebelman
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
Joined: Oct 2003
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South Alabama
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A food plot fee is ridiculous .......... not really when you understand the program. There is no fee for openings that Rayonier created such as logging deck, road, or utility line. However, if you want to clear trees to create a plot then it is only reasonable that you pay a rate to offset timber production.
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Re: lease cost
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#1714436
04/12/16 03:03 PM
04/12/16 03:03 PM
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Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 25,692 South Alabama
Rebelman
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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South Alabama
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Sounds like Rayonier really sticks it to you! They have some VASTLY overpaid employees that are the root cause of this. JUST KIDDING Reb I laughed. And you would too if you only knew.
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Re: lease cost
[Re: Rebelman]
#1714474
04/12/16 03:33 PM
04/12/16 03:33 PM
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Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 8,377 Gulfcrest
bigt
14 point
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14 point
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 8,377
Gulfcrest
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A food plot fee is ridiculous .......... not really when you understand the program. There is no fee for openings that Rayonier created such as logging deck, road, or utility line. However, if you want to clear trees to create a plot then it is only reasonable that you pay a rate to offset timber production. So if someone acquires a lease the plots that are already established are not assessed a fee? If so that is not ridiculous and I stand corrected, but if a company is already charging top end lease prices and charges fees for long time established food plots then that is ridiculous
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Re: lease cost
[Re: bigt]
#1716926
04/15/16 09:37 AM
04/15/16 09:37 AM
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Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 1,972 Molino, FL
auburn17
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Posts: 1,972
Molino, FL
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A food plot fee is ridiculous .......... not really when you understand the program. There is no fee for openings that Rayonier created such as logging deck, road, or utility line. However, if you want to clear trees to create a plot then it is only reasonable that you pay a rate to offset timber production. So if someone acquires a lease the plots that are already established are not assessed a fee? If so that is not ridiculous and I stand corrected, but if a company is already charging top end lease prices and charges fees for long time established food plots then that is ridiculous TR Miller does it the same way, $100 per acre of food plots. That is an annual fee that never goes away.
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Re: lease cost
[Re: timbercruiser]
#1717249
04/15/16 04:18 PM
04/15/16 04:18 PM
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Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 8,377 Gulfcrest
bigt
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14 point
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Gulfcrest
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And if you don't want to pay it, somebody else will be glad to. And they would be welcome to it unless the price per acre for the lease was on the average to low side of the market. I really do enjoy these threads because sometimes I take for granted the people I lease through. Sure my lease is higher than I would like,but I understand when you have kept a lease for almost fifty years in the same family it is real hard to keep the price per acre from going up overtime, but every time there has been a timber cutting they have either expanded plots or added in new plots at no extra cost to us. I guess I am truly blessed to be dealing with a company who not only is in the timber business, but are also still interested in creating positive long term relationships with the people that lease their land.
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Re: lease cost
[Re: hawgwild]
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04/17/16 05:57 AM
04/17/16 05:57 AM
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Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 4,319 boaz
hawgwild
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Posts: 4,319
boaz
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One again our lease with FRC has went up. We lease from three different landowners, all adjoining and similar property. We pay $5.00 more per acre for this piece than the same type of property that adjoins this tract. If it wasn't the largest and middle tract that holds it all together, I would give it up in a heartbeat. It chaps my ass to have to write that check. I also don't know of any property within ten miles of our place, private and timber land, that the lessor is paying within $3 per acre what we are paying for this property. This is average property that they hve not made any kind of improvements on since we've had it. Thanks for getting my blood pressure up by starting this thread.
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Re: lease cost
[Re: JRF]
#1718236
04/17/16 08:34 AM
04/17/16 08:34 AM
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Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 8,377 Gulfcrest
bigt
14 point
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14 point
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Posts: 8,377
Gulfcrest
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I got the paperwork for our lease in this week they've gone up $320 from last year. It is inevitable that a lease is going to go up year to year under normal circumstances and the longer you keep the lease the more out of whack the price will be compared to those surrounding that have changed hand during the same time period. Sometimes you can renegotiate a lower price at that time but I wouldn't hold my breath. The lease price doesn't bother me if the owner tries to at least maintain the roads and will work with you on food plots. It is these companies that treat the hunters like second class citizens that piss me off.....food plot fees plus high lease rates, little to no customer service and let the roads go to Crap unless they plan on doing any timber cutting soon.
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