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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: mdf] #1732713
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Originally Posted By: mdf
Same principles except for no til planter.


Excactly.....Don't get too hung up on doing exactly what I'm doing. It's more important to understand the general principles and then adapt the process to meet your individual needs/goals. I'm getting the same soil health benefits as Dr. Woods talks about in the video....I'm just tweaking the method since I don't have a drill.


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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: CNC] #1732889
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That video Grant Woods shot was at mine and loprofile's neighbors place in south Montgomery county. loprofile actually was there and said that it was a very interesting and informational meeting. Grant has a total different approach to farm than the traditional farming but it appears to be paying off for him on his own place along with clients places.

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Originally Posted By: Mully
That video Grant Woods shot was at mine and loprofile's neighbors place in south Montgomery county. loprofile actually was there and said that it was a very interesting and informational meeting. Grant has a total different approach to farm than the traditional farming but it appears to be paying off for him on his own place along with clients places.


Thats pretty cool! I noticed loprofile in the audience.

Been working on the understory of my property for several years converting it from an understory dominated by a privet monoculture to a much more diverse array of plant species. Lots of goat food in there.



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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: CNC] #1733813
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Hack n Squirt with pure gly does kinda work but Im really not getting enough kill with it to be completely satisfactory. Being that Im just doing it here on my small home property its not a big deal if I have to go back and hack some trees again..but if say you were being hired by someone to h&s 100 acres of trash trees then I wouldnt be ok with it. Im getting maybe 40-50% pure kill with it depending on the size and species. another 10-25% that looks sick but keeps hanging on.and the rest that keeps on trucking. This section of trash trees has been stunted and they look to be strugglingbut I may have to hack some of them again to get a complete kill. I have been getting a good kill on privet though using H&S with pure gly.

New understory growth coming in as the trash overstory dies out. You can see a little bit of privet still present and blooming out in the midstory that will soon be eliminated,





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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: CNC] #1733822
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I've purposely left a few privet stumps for now to show what used to be. This stump is very representative of the size privet I was originally dealing with. It pretty much dominated the entire understory of this property. It's now being replaced with much more productive species. That's a sawtooth behind it.



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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: CNC] #1733825
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.....along with multiple other species of mast producing trees..........




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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: CNC] #1734615
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It don't rain soon, i won't be growing anything this spring. Dry as a bone here. I always like to time my plantings with a rain, thats hard to do when there is none.

Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: blumsden] #1734636
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Tell me about it. I finished planting 3 AC of soybeans/corn a week or so ago with the following day projected at 60% and the next day 80%. Glad I did not bet the 401K on those odds cause I got 0% and nothing much projected until Friday.

Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: CNC] #1734711
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Ive gotten a good bit of rain this spring over here in my neck of the woods. Hot weather is about to be here though. Im getting ready to bring in the lime truck. You cant tell it from the pic but there is a lot summer vegetation beginning to emerge under the rye. Im just going to release it and hit it with a little fert along with my lime.

My orange mule is out of gas. Gotta make a run to get some diesel fuel.



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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: CNC] #1734783
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CNC , your bush hogging now to promote summer vegetation ? Rather than leave it all standing until fall planting or is there seed and fertilizer beneath the mowed section. I'm guessing it's easier on the transmission to cut periodically throughout the summer so the bio mass mat isn't to thick ?


A famous PA Turkey Call Maker once said " When the Dogwood is White the time is right "
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Originally Posted By: Flat Iron
CNC , your bush hogging now to promote summer vegetation ? Rather than leave it all standing until fall planting or is there seed and fertilizer beneath the mowed section. I'm guessing it's easier on the transmission to cut periodically throughout the summer so the bio mass mat isn't to thick ?


If I didn't need to spread some lime then I wouldn't do anything to it. My pH still sucks though and I've decided to just make that my top priority this summer. Figured I'd put down the hay and then call in the spreader truck. It's actually mowing really easy. In the future I'll probably mow the rye early while its still green when it first starts to set seed to thin it out some and then let it go from there. When I get my pH where I want it, I hope to have a better component of yuchi and durana clover.

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Heres some yuchi arrowleaf that came back this year from seed. I didnt put any in last falls mix. Hopefully this round of lime is going to get my pH up into the 6s and Im going to sow a full rate of yuchi and durana again.



Some patches of durana are still hanging in there as well and beginning to emerge. Like I was saying, if it werent for really needing to get the lime truck in here.Id just have let this stuff alone.



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Bring on the lime truck!......Field is mulched and water control measures in place...... It would take some pretty heavy rains now for water to move in any other direction but down. smile




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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: CNC] #1735031
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Is there any Summer Planting that works with Throw -Mow -Grow ? Sunflowers ? Millet ? ICP ?


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Originally Posted By: Flat Iron
Is there any Summer Planting that works with Throw -Mow -Grow ? Sunflowers ? Millet ? ICP ?


Millet, buckwheat, ICP's would be your best options although I'm not a real big fan of summer plots unless you have significant acreage to plant and plenty of extra cash to put into it. For most of us with an acre here or an acre there on a hunting club budget....we'd be better off just to work on getting the soil right and growing clover mixed with natural vegetation that's lush, healthy and producing plenty of biomass rather than watching the deer decimate an acre of beans sprouts.

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Damn!.....That didnt take long. They must have smelled the fresh cut rye. grin










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Had to get the DIY lime. The co-op was backed up for a while on their spreader truck. It worked out fine though since my field is so easy to access as well as being flat and no-tilled. It didnt really put that much strain on my truck. Theres a lot of situations where I'd hate to have to use a truck for this though. I imagine you could burn the transmission up in one pretty easy.



Slightly over 2 acres.5200 lbs applied.



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150 lbs of 34-0-0100 lbs of 0-0-60.50 lbs of 0-46-0this is the total amount applied to slightly over 2 acresbasically half everything if you want it on a per acre number. I havent had a soil test this spring but from haven gotten one every spring and fall now for several years, I have a good idea of whats happening. All Im trying to do with the P&K is just dust the field with enough this summer to keep those levels bumped up into acceptable ranges. Ill pull another soil sample at the end of the summer and see what we look like before fall planting. Im applying a little bit of N because the hay is going to suck some nitrogen out of the soil in the decomposition process. This will help keep the field from running completely on empty as far as nitrogen goes. I still want to grow a lush field of vegetation this summer. The hay will eventually return some of the N to future plants in an organic form.



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Replenished my state of the art gravity flow mineral lickpatent pending. I think I may have tweaked a muscle in my arse when I picked the block up over the side of the truck bed. Is that even possible? Can you pull a sphincter muscle? I bet Troy would know.#gettinoldsucks.... grin



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Originally Posted By: CNC
Damn!.....That didnt take long. They must have smelled the fresh cut rye. grin











I can help with those seed eating buzzards...

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