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Re: TRUMP PRESIDENCY
[Re: jbc]
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05/10/16 08:08 AM
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Round ‘bout there
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Round ‘bout there
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Seems like a huge jump from limiting assault rifle purchases to taking my 12 gauge
Maybe I'm underestimating her power. And the lack of power of the supporters of our side Californiastan has begun taking aim at long guns. They're attacking the 2A piecemeal, getting one thing at a time instead of trying for the whole shebang at once. And they're succeeding. Same with hunting. Use of dogs, then trapping, then a specific critter ... one slice of the pie at a time. Same with anti-hunting groups. Instead of screaming about "Ban Hunting! Ban Trapping!' they're being selective. One animal or season or method here, then another one there, this state, that state. If they get defeated, as with bear hunting in Maine, they just do it again and again until they either succeed or get someone on a state agency -- like in California, with its 'Conservation' board basically full of liberals against hunting -- and they work from the inside. It's not far-fetched to think long guns - rifles, shotguns, centerfire - will come under more heavy attack, and not just AR-style rifles, "evil" black guns or those with accessories like grips or flash suppressors. They're looking at everything, everywhere, and gaining fractions of momentum. Thus the reason to be more vigilant against these attacks even in our states where traditional hunting and "they couldn't do that here" attitudes prevail.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
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Re: TRUMP PRESIDENCY
[Re: BC]
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05/10/16 08:10 AM
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outdoorobsession
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For me and many like me, it is a matter of Honor and Principle. That is more important than anything else, because our worldview and faith, if we are true to it, demands such action.
When Hillary's goons kick in your door to come in and seize your guns, maybe she will pat all y'all with Honor and Principle on the head and tell you what a good boy you are. She may even give you a gold star while she's at it. I can say this about scumbag democrats. At least they show solidarity within their party, and that's why the scumbag liberals have taken over this country. It's why small businesses are ruined because they refuse service to homosexuals. It's why states are being sued by the Justice Department over what bathroom tranny's are allowed to use. It's why people are being brow beaten to accept Muslims as our friends and allies. It's why....... Ahhhh screw it. I'm talking to a brick wall. No BC..you arent. People let her win though and they will sure find out.
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Re: TRUMP PRESIDENCY
[Re: fireman176]
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05/10/16 08:11 AM
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BamaBart
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Do what you gotta do.
I'll vote for Trump if I decide to get out on election day.
Back to my nap.
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Re: TRUMP PRESIDENCY
[Re: fireman176]
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05/10/16 08:11 AM
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This is just not debatable...
If the election is based on popular vote, then whichever candidate gets the most votes will be the president. So you not voting for Trump reduces the votes he gets, thus giving Hillary a better chance to have more votes. Not voting for Trump thus is voting Hillary. Quit trying to play some weird game of semantics and principle.
Now, if this is some system of delegates, and the general election isn't predicated on individual votes, then don't vote. Won't matter either way, right?
Next, only Christ is righteous, and He would be the only righteousness that any candidate could possibly possess, and that's assuming any of them are legitimate Christians (they would thus possess the righteousness of Christ). So let's also not play some weird game of saying Trump is "too immoral" to vote for. They're all too immoral to vote for (if that's the standard). Me, you, and every candidate was born fully wicked, so none of them qualifies for your vote if their morality is the measure.
Oh, had to edit... And y'all know for darn certain that I ain't a Trump fan. So, there.
Last edited by ikillbux; 05/10/16 08:13 AM.
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Re: TRUMP PRESIDENCY
[Re: Clem]
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05/10/16 08:16 AM
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Remington270
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Thus the reason to be more vigilant against these attacks even in our states where traditional hunting and "they couldn't do that here" attitudes prevail.
Not to mention the fact that the whole reason we have guns per the 2nd amendment has nothing to do with hunting at all.
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Re: TRUMP PRESIDENCY
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05/10/16 08:17 AM
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BC
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For me and many like me, it is a matter of Honor and Principle. That is more important than anything else, because our worldview and faith, if we are true to it, demands such action.
When Hillary's goons kick in your door to come in and seize your guns, maybe she will pat all y'all with Honor and Principle on the head and tell you what a good boy you are. She may even give you a gold star while she's at it. I can say this about scumbag democrats. At least they show solidarity within their party, and that's why the scumbag liberals have taken over this country. It's why small businesses are ruined because they refuse service to homosexuals. It's why states are being sued by the Justice Department over what bathroom tranny's are allowed to use. It's why people are being brow beaten to accept Muslims as our friends and allies. It's why....... Ahhhh screw it. I'm talking to a brick wall. No BC..you arent. People let her win though and they will sure find out. I know. I'm referring to the 8 - 10 rattling on about morals and convictions. The same 8 - 10 that will cry incessantly on this board for the next 8 years about the BS that Hitlery is about to rain down upon us.
"Some men are mere hunters; others are turkey hunters."
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Re: TRUMP PRESIDENCY
[Re: BC]
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05/10/16 08:22 AM
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For me and many like me, it is a matter of Honor and Principle. That is more important than anything else, because our worldview and faith, if we are true to it, demands such action.
When Hillary's goons kick in your door to come in and seize your guns, maybe she will pat all y'all with Honor and Principle on the head and tell you what a good boy you are. She may even give you a gold star while she's at it. I can say this about scumbag democrats. At least they show solidarity within their party, and that's why the scumbag liberals have taken over this country. It's why small businesses are ruined because they refuse service to homosexuals. It's why states are being sued by the Justice Department over what bathroom tranny's are allowed to use. It's why people are being brow beaten to accept Muslims as our friends and allies. It's why....... Ahhhh screw it. I'm talking to a brick wall. No BC..you arent. People let her win though and they will sure find out. I know. I'm referring to the 8 - 10 rattling on about morals and convictions. The same 8 - 10 that will cry incessantly on this board for the next 8 years about the BS that Hitlery is about to rain down upon us. I know exactly who youre talking about. And yes..youre right..they will be. Jeez...voting for people who arent even in the election anymore..or not voting at all??? Whatever... But do we have to hear about it for the next 5 months? Everyday? Dang. They arent going to change my mind to write in Gary Johnson..or Ted Cruz. Doesnt make any sense at all. SMDH! Trump 2016. It is him or Clinton...thats the only choices...like it or not. And NEVER HITLERY. I hope shes indicted by then personally.
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Re: TRUMP PRESIDENCY
[Re: WmHunter]
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05/10/16 08:32 AM
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My individual freedom cannot be taken away. Do you know who else said those same words?  ^^^^^^^ This guy, he said that. Look what it got him. A bullet in the brain. He was a good patriotic German who believed that his country could never turn on him. If he had known what was ahead, I bet he would have been more vocal about the rise of Hitler. But he waited for someone else to come along to offer a different path than Hitler and in the mean time Hitler gained strength to the point he could not be opposed. And he got a piece of lead for his trouble. Trump is no where near my perfect candidate, but if Hillary is elected he will suffer more than we MIGHT under Trump. But hopefully everything will be ok. Just unicorns and rainbows! That is a VERY famous photograph! But it is not of a German man. That is a photo of a Jewish man in Vinnitsa, Ukraine (then part of the USSR)(something Ukrainians even then were not thrilled about) - being executed by the infamous Nazi Einsatzgruppe D. The name of that world famous photo is " The Last Jew of Vinnitsa". http://rarehistoricalphotos.com/last-jew-vinnitsa-1941/I have been to Vinnitsa several years ago. ********** But Sumpter's point is spot on. The days are coming when the NWO Babylon will finally be put together. And it will make the worst of WW2 look like a picnic - especially for Christians and Jews. Thank you for the correction. That is what I get for trusting google. We all will have to do what they think is right. I am in the #neverhillary camp. I will vote for whoever has the best chance to win that is not named Hillary Clinton. My advice to everyone is to add ammo to their monthly shopping list. There will be some on here who think my preparations for disaster or civil unrest are laughable, but I think of them as insurance. We pay for it hoping we will never need it, but thank God we have it when we need it. The same can be said for ammo, rice and other non-perishable food stores.
I love my country, but don't trust my government.
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Re: TRUMP PRESIDENCY
[Re: sumpter_al]
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05/10/16 08:47 AM
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Good advice on being prepared for the worst from Sumpter.
I cast my lot for Trump also.
He is certainly not ideal - but Hitlary is a known certain quantity, and it is ALL bad. And I do not even want to think about the possibility of her having 3 SCOTUS picks. I am certain that if Trump wins that Sen. Jeff Sessions and others will make sure it is at least a decent pick if not a very good pick.
"The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
" Chuck Sykes is a dictator control freak like Vladimir Putin " WmHunter
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Re: TRUMP PRESIDENCY
[Re: fireman176]
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05/10/16 08:53 AM
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I have always read on here about Trump's campaign donations so I decided to look into it. Yes he has given money to democrats but it looks like he had a change of thought and started donating mostly to republicans after being relatively even handed with his donations which is what a lot of successful business people do.....
We went to two authoritative databases of campaign finance data to examine Ferguson’s numbers: OpenSecrets.org, to find federal donations, and FollowtheMoney.org, for state-level donations.
Trump has actually been relatively evenhanded in doling out cash to the two parties, but since 1989, he’s contributed over $350,000 more to Republicans running for federal and state offices, campaign finance records show.
Data from the Federal Election Commission and state elections offices provided by the two websites show that Trump has given $584,850 to Democrats and $961,140 to the GOP over the last 26 years.
The difference in donations is almost entirely captured in Trump’s recent giving. Since 2012, Trump has donated $463,450 to Republicans and just $3,500 to Democrats (California Attorney General Kamala Harris and New York Assemblyman Michael Benedetto).
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Re: TRUMP PRESIDENCY
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05/10/16 09:15 AM
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Flyway
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And NEVER HITLERY. I hope shes indicted by then personally. You might want to think twice about that. If Bernie is the Democratic candidate he is currently obliterating Trump in the polls, almost twice as bad as Hillary is.
Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death! - Patrick Henry
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Re: TRUMP PRESIDENCY
[Re: Flyway]
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05/10/16 09:38 AM
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bigt
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And NEVER HITLERY. I hope shes indicted by then personally. You might want to think twice about that. If Bernie is the Democratic candidate he is currently obliterating Trump in the polls, almost twice as bad as Hillary is. The latest polls are not showing trump being beat badly by Hillary or Sanders......in swing states they are actually running neck and neck. http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/trump-clinton-florida-ohio-pennsylvania-222994
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Re: TRUMP PRESIDENCY
[Re: bigt]
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05/10/16 10:43 AM
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I have always read on here about Trump's campaign donations so I decided to look into it. Yes he has given money to democrats but it looks like he had a change of thought and started donating mostly to republicans after being relatively even handed with his donations which is what a lot of successful business people do.....
We went to two authoritative databases of campaign finance data to examine Ferguson’s numbers: OpenSecrets.org, to find federal donations, and FollowtheMoney.org, for state-level donations.
Trump has actually been relatively evenhanded in doling out cash to the two parties, but since 1989, he’s contributed over $350,000 more to Republicans running for federal and state offices, campaign finance records show.
Data from the Federal Election Commission and state elections offices provided by the two websites show that Trump has given $584,850 to Democrats and $961,140 to the GOP over the last 26 years.
The difference in donations is almost entirely captured in Trump’s recent giving. Since 2012, Trump has donated $463,450 to Republicans and just $3,500 to Democrats (California Attorney General Kamala Harris and New York Assemblyman Michael Benedetto). Wow Big T! great job. That actually surprised me since he lives and operates businesses in a whole lot more dem states then republican ones. Good looking into it, and thanks for posting. Nice to see a bit of reason and logic used. Looks like hes a heck of a lot more conservative then folks in the media have made him out to be.
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Re: TRUMP PRESIDENCY
[Re: straycat]
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05/10/16 11:18 AM
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I've typed out a response 4 times now and it totally comes across as ugly, Holier-than-thou and haughty no matter how I reword it. So here it is anyway.
So of y'all are just stupid or ignorant...not sure which...to not understand why some people will refuse to vote for Trump. It may be that some of y'all with such large opinions of us have very little capability to understand the concepts of Principle and Honor. I do not normally post such aggressive posts and sling names, but today I can't help it.
If you line up with Trumps values, vision and plans for America then I have zero problems with you voting for him. If you think he is the lesser of two evils and will support him no matter what so that Hillary will not be elected, then I have zero problems with you voting like that. Vote your damn conscience!
Many of us, including myself, do our best to live, act and vote on a certain set of principles and values. Since there is no such thing as a perfect candidate, we have to decide where the line is on compromise. I begrudge NO ONE who decides to support Trump. Their call, their decision. But for some of us, Trump doesn't even come close to the line where we could knowingly support him for President.
I for one refuse to vote for anyone who does not at least meet the majority of the Principles and Values I hold as important. Trump has done zero to persuade me. If any of y'all have been paying attention over the years, you know I'd also never vote for any Democrat. For me and many like me, it is a matter of Honor and Principle. That is more important than anything else, because our worldview and faith, if we are true to it, demands such action.
If you want to bash me, go ahead. I'm good with it. But if you do, you are unwilling or unable to recognize my individual liberty and freedom of conscience as equally important as yours.
And it is your individual freedom that will cease to exist after Hillary takes over. My individual freedom cannot be taken away. Really.... Men have died to give you that freedom. Why did they die if it can't be taken away? God gave me that freedom one of those unalienable rights. Men died to protect it. But my true freedom is in Christ, not man...unending and forever. Amen
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Re: TRUMP PRESIDENCY
[Re: bigt]
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05/10/16 11:24 AM
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I have always read on here about Trump's campaign donations so I decided to look into it. Yes he has given money to democrats but it looks like he had a change of thought and started donating mostly to republicans after being relatively even handed with his donations which is what a lot of successful business people do.....
We went to two authoritative databases of campaign finance data to examine Ferguson’s numbers: OpenSecrets.org, to find federal donations, and FollowtheMoney.org, for state-level donations.
Trump has actually been relatively evenhanded in doling out cash to the two parties, but since 1989, he’s contributed over $350,000 more to Republicans running for federal and state offices, campaign finance records show.
Data from the Federal Election Commission and state elections offices provided by the two websites show that Trump has given $584,850 to Democrats and $961,140 to the GOP over the last 26 years.
The difference in donations is almost entirely captured in Trump’s recent giving. Since 2012, Trump has donated $463,450 to Republicans and just $3,500 to Democrats (California Attorney General Kamala Harris and New York Assemblyman Michael Benedetto). Why would he support any Democrats period?
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Re: TRUMP PRESIDENCY
[Re: Ben2]
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05/10/16 12:44 PM
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I have always read on here about Trump's campaign donations so I decided to look into it. Yes he has given money to democrats but it looks like he had a change of thought and started donating mostly to republicans after being relatively even handed with his donations which is what a lot of successful business people do.....
We went to two authoritative databases of campaign finance data to examine Ferguson’s numbers: OpenSecrets.org, to find federal donations, and FollowtheMoney.org, for state-level donations.
Trump has actually been relatively evenhanded in doling out cash to the two parties, but since 1989, he’s contributed over $350,000 more to Republicans running for federal and state offices, campaign finance records show.
Data from the Federal Election Commission and state elections offices provided by the two websites show that Trump has given $584,850 to Democrats and $961,140 to the GOP over the last 26 years.
The difference in donations is almost entirely captured in Trump’s recent giving. Since 2012, Trump has donated $463,450 to Republicans and just $3,500 to Democrats (California Attorney General Kamala Harris and New York Assemblyman Michael Benedetto). Why would he support any Democrats period? Obviously for Business reason Ben. Im sure you dont live in a bubble. Im sorry Cruz lost..I voted for him too. But if you expect to do business in NY, NJ , Vegas and Cali. and think you can do it WITHOUT contributing to them in those states..then youre being very naive.
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Re: TRUMP PRESIDENCY
[Re: fireman176]
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05/10/16 12:52 PM
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I don't get how you guys come across some of your conclusions.
Not liking Trump is not an indication of supporting Hillary.
Ya'll go vote for the man. He was your choice.
I'll continue to stand by what I've said all along. He is NO different than Clinton. I will be proven right over the next 4 years. Either he will lose to Clinton as so many have tried to tell you or his policies will reflect that he wasn't a conservative at all.
Either way we are going to suffer.
Character is not developed in moments of temptation and trial. That is when it is intended to be used.
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Re: TRUMP PRESIDENCY
[Re: Fattyfireplug]
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05/10/16 01:00 PM
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I don't get how you guys come across some of your conclusions.
Not liking Trump is not an indication of supporting Hillary.
Ya'll go vote for the man. He was your choice.
I'll continue to stand by what I've said all along. He is NO different than Clinton. I will be proven right over the next 4 years. Either he will lose to Clinton as so many have tried to tell you or his policies will reflect that he wasn't a conservative at all.
Either way we are going to suffer. I will vote for him but he wasn't my choice in the primary. I find it funny that you say YOU will be proven right in the end with no leeway for you possibly just possibly being wrong. It is that train of thought that has people piling on some of the Cruz and nevertrump supporters. You may be right but wether you can actually grasp this YOU might also be wrong. I know that is hard for some people to acknowledge that they aren't the smartest person in the room but time will tell. I personally hope you are wrong for the sake of the country.........
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