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Re: TRUMP PRESIDENCY [Re: fireman176] #1736340
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“Your staff is welcome to waste taxpayer dollars writing partisan, factually deficient letters to our Committee, coordinate the language with House Democrats, and then leak it to the media. That is your prerogative. It will not prevent this Committee from interviewing all witnesses who can help us write the final, definitive accounting of what happened before, during, and after the attacks that killed four Americans in Benghazi and injured others. It will just prolong the investigation. I have been encouraged by too many soldiers, sailors, airmen, and Marines across the country to allow letters from political appointees to stop us.”


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Re: TRUMP PRESIDENCY [Re: Zzzfog] #1736760
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Simply yes. On some issues I can not vote the "lesser of two evils". Hypothectically, If I still vote for the "lesser evil" will I not be held accountable for endorsing and voting for evil?
An example of an issue that I will not compromise on is abortion. For example, if one candidate completely supports pro-choice, and another candidate supports only early term abortion. I have a choice. I can vote for wholesale murder, or I can vote for murder in some cases. Will God hold us accountable for voting for just murder in some cases?

Re: TRUMP PRESIDENCY [Re: 163dm] #1736781
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Originally Posted By: 163dm
Simply yes. On some issues I can not vote the "lesser of two evils". Hypothectically, If I still vote for the "lesser evil" will I not be held accountable for endorsing and voting for evil?
An example of an issue that I will not compromise on is abortion. For example, if one candidate completely supports pro-choice, and another candidate supports only early term abortion. I have a choice. I can vote for wholesale murder, or I can vote for murder in some cases. Will God hold us accountable for voting for just murder in some cases?




Vote for whomever you want. Just don't cry and whine when you get Hillary and the liberal ideaology continues to overrun this country. Don't piss and moan when your daughter has to go to the bathroom with a 60 year old man in a dress. Don't cry to us when Muslim refugees start moving into your neighborhood.


Because it's what you asked for.


"Some men are mere hunters; others are turkey hunters."

-- Archibald Rutledge
Re: TRUMP PRESIDENCY [Re: BC] #1736791
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Originally Posted By: BC
Originally Posted By: 163dm
Simply yes. On some issues I can not vote the "lesser of two evils". Hypothectically, If I still vote for the "lesser evil" will I not be held accountable for endorsing and voting for evil?
An example of an issue that I will not compromise on is abortion. For example, if one candidate completely supports pro-choice, and another candidate supports only early term abortion. I have a choice. I can vote for wholesale murder, or I can vote for murder in some cases. Will God hold us accountable for voting for just murder in some cases?




Vote for whomever you want. Just don't cry and whine when you get Hillary and the liberal ideaology continues to overrun this country. Don't piss and moan when your daughter has to go to the bathroom with a 60 year old man in a dress. Don't cry to us when Muslim refugees start moving into your neighborhood.


Because it's what you asked for.


And the same goes for you who vote for Trump!


"Said I never had much use for one; never said I didn't know how to use it".
-Matthew Quigley in "Quigley Down Under"
Re: TRUMP PRESIDENCY [Re: fireman176] #1736796
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Re: TRUMP PRESIDENCY [Re: Big Al] #1736806
05/12/16 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted By: Big Al
Originally Posted By: BC
Originally Posted By: 163dm
Simply yes. On some issues I can not vote the "lesser of two evils". Hypothectically, If I still vote for the "lesser evil" will I not be held accountable for endorsing and voting for evil?
An example of an issue that I will not compromise on is abortion. For example, if one candidate completely supports pro-choice, and another candidate supports only early term abortion. I have a choice. I can vote for wholesale murder, or I can vote for murder in some cases. Will God hold us accountable for voting for just murder in some cases?




Vote for whomever you want. Just don't cry and whine when you get Hillary and the liberal ideaology continues to overrun this country. Don't piss and moan when your daughter has to go to the bathroom with a 60 year old man in a dress. Don't cry to us when Muslim refugees start moving into your neighborhood.


Because it's what you asked for.


And the same goes for you who vote for Trump!



If Hillary isn't in office you won't hear me complain at all. When all this began I was torn between Cruz and Carson. When it became apparent that Trump was going to win in a route, I decided to swallow that pill and pull the lever for Trump. Some of you don't understand the level of silliness that will come out from our government if that liberal bitch gets the power of the President of the United States. She will do everything in her power to repeal the second amendment. She will bury any hardworking American who doesn't cater to gays and transgenders. She is the devil and must be stopped.

Is Trump the ideal candidate.... certainly not. I am quite sure he will take some actions as President that I would not agree with. What I do feel like is he won't attack gun owners, he will repeal Obamacare, and he will try to close the floodgates of illegal immigrants currently pouring into this country. Will he get rid of them all? No. Can he stop or slow down the constant flow of them coming into this country? Yes.

Here's what you know you will get with Hillary.

Attacks on gun ownership and the NRA.
Open borders welcoming illegals with open arms.
Muslim refugees.
Obamacare will continue to exist.
Catering to the gays and transgenders (men is dresses)
Liberal Agenda will be alive and well in the US for a minimum of 4 years and most probably 8.

There are simply too many negatives to list out.


"Some men are mere hunters; others are turkey hunters."

-- Archibald Rutledge
Re: TRUMP PRESIDENCY [Re: BC] #1736816
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Originally Posted By: BC
Originally Posted By: Big Al
Originally Posted By: BC
Originally Posted By: 163dm
Simply yes. On some issues I can not vote the "lesser of two evils". Hypothectically, If I still vote for the "lesser evil" will I not be held accountable for endorsing and voting for evil?
An example of an issue that I will not compromise on is abortion. For example, if one candidate completely supports pro-choice, and another candidate supports only early term abortion. I have a choice. I can vote for wholesale murder, or I can vote for murder in some cases. Will God hold us accountable for voting for just murder in some cases?




Vote for whomever you want. Just don't cry and whine when you get Hillary and the liberal ideaology continues to overrun this country. Don't piss and moan when your daughter has to go to the bathroom with a 60 year old man in a dress. Don't cry to us when Muslim refugees start moving into your neighborhood.


Because it's what you asked for.


And the same goes for you who vote for Trump!



If Hillary isn't in office you won't hear me complain at all. When all this began I was torn between Cruz and Carson. When it became apparent that Trump was going to win in a route, I decided to swallow that pill and pull the lever for Trump. Some of you don't understand the level of silliness that will come out from our government if that liberal bitch gets the power of the President of the United States. She will do everything in her power to repeal the second amendment. She will bury any hardworking American who doesn't cater to gays and transgenders. She is the devil and must be stopped.

Is Trump the ideal candidate.... certainly not. I am quite sure he will take some actions as President that I would not agree with. What I do feel like is he won't attack gun owners, he will repeal Obamacare, and he will try to close the floodgates of illegal immigrants currently pouring into this country. Will he get rid of them all? No. Can he stop or slow down the constant flow of them coming into this country? Yes.

Here's what you know you will get with Hillary.

Attacks on gun ownership and the NRA.
Open borders welcoming illegals with open arms.
Muslim refugees.
Obamacare will continue to exist.
Catering to the gays and transgenders (men is dresses)
Liberal Agenda will be alive and well in the US for a minimum of 4 years and most probably 8.

There are simply too many negatives to list out.


And what I am saying is that level of silliness will continue with either Trump or Hillary. Unless there are some major changes (and that will not happen, and even if it does, it takes no time for the professional lobbyist to get to them and control them) in the Senate and House, Trump can do nothing by himself. It'll be pretty much the same as if Hillary were to get in, but may be a little slower in the attack on guns. That's probably coming no matter who gets in. Just may be a year slower with Trump.


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-Matthew Quigley in "Quigley Down Under"
Re: TRUMP PRESIDENCY [Re: Big Al] #1736828
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I haven't heard anything from Trump to indicate he will attack the second amendment.

I have heard Hillary say directly from her mouth that the Australian gun ban was the way the United States needed to go to prevent mass shootings. I've also heard her say she was going to make it her mission to shut down the NRA.


"Some men are mere hunters; others are turkey hunters."

-- Archibald Rutledge
Re: TRUMP PRESIDENCY [Re: fireman176] #1736830
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All I can say is I hope you are right BC.


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Re: TRUMP PRESIDENCY [Re: fireman176] #1736835
05/12/16 02:02 AM
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i heard this morning zimmerman is auctioning his trayvon gun on gunbroker and some of the $ was going against Hillery because she came out and said, He shouldn't have had the gun in the first place. That is not the person we want as prez.


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Re: TRUMP PRESIDENCY [Re: Big Al] #1736863
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Originally Posted By: Big Al
Originally Posted By: BC
Originally Posted By: Big Al
Originally Posted By: BC
Originally Posted By: 163dm
Simply yes. On some issues I can not vote the "lesser of two evils". Hypothectically, If I still vote for the "lesser evil" will I not be held accountable for endorsing and voting for evil?
An example of an issue that I will not compromise on is abortion. For example, if one candidate completely supports pro-choice, and another candidate supports only early term abortion. I have a choice. I can vote for wholesale murder, or I can vote for murder in some cases. Will God hold us accountable for voting for just murder in some cases?




Vote for whomever you want. Just don't cry and whine when you get Hillary and the liberal ideaology continues to overrun this country. Don't piss and moan when your daughter has to go to the bathroom with a 60 year old man in a dress. Don't cry to us when Muslim refugees start moving into your neighborhood.


Because it's what you asked for.


And the same goes for you who vote for Trump!



If Hillary isn't in office you won't hear me complain at all. When all this began I was torn between Cruz and Carson. When it became apparent that Trump was going to win in a route, I decided to swallow that pill and pull the lever for Trump. Some of you don't understand the level of silliness that will come out from our government if that liberal bitch gets the power of the President of the United States. She will do everything in her power to repeal the second amendment. She will bury any hardworking American who doesn't cater to gays and transgenders. She is the devil and must be stopped.

Is Trump the ideal candidate.... certainly not. I am quite sure he will take some actions as President that I would not agree with. What I do feel like is he won't attack gun owners, he will repeal Obamacare, and he will try to close the floodgates of illegal immigrants currently pouring into this country. Will he get rid of them all? No. Can he stop or slow down the constant flow of them coming into this country? Yes.

Here's what you know you will get with Hillary.

Attacks on gun ownership and the NRA.
Open borders welcoming illegals with open arms.
Muslim refugees.
Obamacare will continue to exist.
Catering to the gays and transgenders (men is dresses)
Liberal Agenda will be alive and well in the US for a minimum of 4 years and most probably 8.

There are simply too many negatives to list out.


And what I am saying is that level of silliness will continue with either Trump or Hillary. Unless there are some major changes (and that will not happen, and even if it does, it takes no time for the professional lobbyist to get to them and control them) in the Senate and House, Trump can do nothing by himself. It'll be pretty much the same as if Hillary were to get in, but may be a little slower in the attack on guns. That's probably coming no matter who gets in. Just may be a year slower with Trump.


Good to see that you think that losing the 2nd amendment is a "level of silliness".

Where do you get the president can't do anything.
He can SHUT the border down TOMORROW.
He can put military personnel on the border tomorrow, with shoot to kill order.
He can remove the stand down orders to the border agents tomorrow.
He can move troop at his will.
He doesn't need congress to do many thing.
He can fire the head of every agency tomorrow.
He can STOP the influx of un-immunized refugees tomorrow.
He can appoint judges. He can nominate SCOTUS judges.

Look what Obama has managed to do with a republican congress.


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Re: TRUMP PRESIDENCY [Re: BC] #1736870
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Originally Posted By: BC
I haven't heard anything from Trump to indicate he will attack the second amendment.

I have heard Hillary say directly from her mouth that the Australian gun ban was the way the United States needed to go to prevent mass shootings. I've also heard her say she was going to make it her mission to shut down the NRA.


He was for a ban on assault weapons in 2012? What is his definition of an assault weapon?

Re: TRUMP PRESIDENCY [Re: Beer Belly] #1736882
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Originally Posted By: Beer Belly

Where do you get the president can't do anything.
He can SHUT the border down TOMORROW.
He can put military personnel on the border tomorrow, with shoot to kill order.
He can remove the stand down orders to the border agents tomorrow.
He can move troop at his will.
He doesn't need congress to do many thing.
He can fire the head of every agency tomorrow.
He can STOP the influx of un-immunized refugees tomorrow.
He can appoint judges. He can nominate SCOTUS judges.

Look what Obama has managed to do with a republican congress.


One of the biggest differences between those who support Trump and those who do not is whether or not he will actually do what he can do and has said he will do. Those who support Trump don't think that he will follow through with what he has campaigned on. You are correct in that he has the authority to do everything that you just mentioned. The question in everyone's mind is will he. To be honest, I think that the truth will lie somewhere in between. The question is, will everyone who voted for Trump because of what he promised during the campaign be upset if he doesn't follow through on all those promises?


Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death! - Patrick Henry
Re: TRUMP PRESIDENCY [Re: Flyway] #1736906
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Originally Posted By: Flyway
Originally Posted By: Beer Belly

Where do you get the president can't do anything.
He can SHUT the border down TOMORROW.
He can put military personnel on the border tomorrow, with shoot to kill order.
He can remove the stand down orders to the border agents tomorrow.
He can move troop at his will.
He doesn't need congress to do many thing.
He can fire the head of every agency tomorrow.
He can STOP the influx of un-immunized refugees tomorrow.
He can appoint judges. He can nominate SCOTUS judges.

Look what Obama has managed to do with a republican congress.


One of the biggest differences between those who support Trump and those who do not is whether or not he will actually do what he can do and has said he will do. Those who support Trump don't think that he will follow through with what he has campaigned on. You are correct in that he has the authority to do everything that you just mentioned. The question in everyone's mind is will he. To be honest, I think that the truth will lie somewhere in between. The question is, will everyone who voted for Trump because of what he promised during the campaign be upset if he doesn't follow through on all those promises?


We agree that it is somewhere in the middle. Trump is going to be brought back to the MIDDLE by the republican led congress. But, it is somewhere in the middle with every candidate. Cruz will end up being the guy in the senate fighting on Trumps side. Watch and see.

You also have to agree that Hillary is far, far left of that middle.


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Re: TRUMP PRESIDENCY [Re: fireman176] #1736924
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I'm amazed at the number of people on Aldeer that are so anti-Trump based on "what if he does" type of ideas. With Hillary there is no doubt what she will do, there is no other viable choice this time.

Re: TRUMP PRESIDENCY [Re: timbercruiser] #1736928
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Originally Posted By: timbercruiser
I'm amazed at the number of people on Aldeer that are so anti-Trump based on "what if he does" type of ideas. With Hillary there is no doubt what she will do, there is no other viable choice this time.




^^^^ This


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Re: TRUMP PRESIDENCY [Re: timbercruiser] #1736939
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Originally Posted By: timbercruiser
I'm amazed at the number of people on Aldeer that are so anti-Trump based on "what if he does" type of ideas. With Hillary there is no doubt what she will do, there is no other viable choice this time.

I think that can be said on both sides. Most Trump supporters on this site have said at one time or another that he is a wild card. Your votes for him are based on "what if he does" what he says.


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Re: TRUMP PRESIDENCY [Re: fireman176] #1736942
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like any politician has ever done what he said he was gonna do, well except for oboma


"A moment of realization is worth a thousand prayers"
Re: TRUMP PRESIDENCY [Re: BC] #1736982
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Originally Posted By: BC
Originally Posted By: timbercruiser
I'm amazed at the number of people on Aldeer that are so anti-Trump based on "what if he does" type of ideas. With Hillary there is no doubt what she will do, there is no other viable choice this time.




^^^^ This


What gives one any idea that he will do any of what he says when he never has before

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Originally Posted By: BC
Originally Posted By: timbercruiser
I'm amazed at the number of people on Aldeer that are so anti-Trump based on "what if he does" type of ideas. With Hillary there is no doubt what she will do, there is no other viable choice this time.




^^^^ This


Big yepper on that.


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