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Re: Bill defines legal hunting hours
[Re: top cat]
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05/12/16 12:26 AM
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If I can see him, he dies.....
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My luck has been so bad lately, it could be raining pussies and I'd catch one with a dick broke off in it.
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Re: Bill defines legal hunting hours
[Re: bill]
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05/12/16 09:35 AM
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This is nothing new? Legal hunting time has been this as long as I can remember. Nope. Daylight hours was the legal language. This is definitely a change from the current law. Maybe for migratory birds but it has been 30 min before sunrise and 30 min after sunset for deer as long as I can remember. I'm 49.
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Re: Bill defines legal hunting hours
[Re: BirminghamBuck]
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05/12/16 09:41 AM
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Round ‘bout there
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It has been "daylight hours" for deer hunting, but not a specified time or 30 minutes before/after or anything other than daylight hours.
It has been 30 minutes for waterfowl hunting (before sunrise) and ends at sunset.
But there has not been anything specific, timewise, for deer hunting other than "daylight hours only."
Last edited by Clem; 05/12/16 09:42 AM.
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Re: Bill defines legal hunting hours
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05/12/16 09:44 AM
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This is nothing new? Legal hunting time has been this as long as I can remember. Nope. Daylight hours was the legal language. This is definitely a change from the current law. Maybe for migratory birds but it has been 30 min before sunrise and 30 min after sunset for deer as long as I can remember. I'm 49. Not according to the game laws.
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Re: Bill defines legal hunting hours
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05/12/16 10:18 AM
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And to add to that, the actual code of alabama says hunting ends at sunset.
Section 9-11-235Taking, etc., of protected birds or animals, raccoons or opossums at night; nighttime hunting of foxes with dogs.
It shall be unlawful, except as to trapping as otherwise provided by law, for a person to take, capture, or kill, or attempt to take, capture, or kill any bird or animal protected by the laws of this state between sunset and daylight of the following day, except that the Commissioner of Conservation and Natural Resources may by a duly promulgated regulation, allow the taking, catching, or killing of raccoons and opossums between sunset and daylight in any county or counties within the state. In any county where the taking, catching, or killing of raccoons and opossums is permitted during nighttime hours by regulations of the commissioner, the animals may only be legally taken with the use of a light and/or a shotgun using shot no larger than number eight, and the person or persons so hunting shall be accompanied by a dog or dogs and, if hunting on the lands of another, shall have the written permission of the landowner.
Any person violating this section shall be guilty of a Class B misdemeanor and, upon conviction thereof, shall be punished for the first offense by a fine of not less than two thousand dollars ($2,000) nor more than three thousand dollars ($3,000) and may be imprisoned in the county jail for a period not to exceed six months. In addition, the court shall revoke all hunting license privileges for a period of three years from the date of conviction.
No provision of this section shall be construed to prohibit the nighttime hunting of foxes with dogs.
(Acts 1935, No. 383, p. 813, §5; Code 1940, T. 8, §86; Acts 1949, No. 662, p. 1026, §1; Acts 1953, No. 767, p. 1028, §1; Acts 1982, No. 82-488, p. 811, §1; Acts 1995, No. 95-215, p. 252, §2; Act 2008-384, p. 714, §1.)
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Re: Bill defines legal hunting hours
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05/12/16 02:48 PM
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So Charlie, what you are trying to tell us is that politicians and bureaucrats are here to help but really don't know what they are doing but everybody keeps chanting "please, oh please, oh please politicians and bureaucrats, please fix the problem that you created and create more problems and write more regulations and pass laws to create more confusion and take more tax money to pay to fix those laws only to create and make more incomprehensible laws and regulations to fix by creating more problems ad nauseam?
"After all, it is not the killing that brings satisfaction; it is the contest of skill and cunning. The true hunter counts his achievement in proportion to the effort involved and the fairness of the sport." Dr. Saxton Pope
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Re: Bill defines legal hunting hours
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05/12/16 03:15 PM
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So Charlie, what you are trying to tell us is that politicians and bureaucrats are here to help but really don't know what they are doing but everybody keeps chanting "please, oh please, oh please politicians and bureaucrats, please fix the problem that you created and create more problems and write more regulations and pass laws to create more confusion and take more tax money to pay to fix those laws only to create and make more incomprehensible laws and regulations to fix by creating more problems ad nauseam? So; what time will you quit hunting??
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Re: Bill defines legal hunting hours
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05/12/16 05:07 PM
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So Charlie, what you are trying to tell us is that politicians and bureaucrats are here to help but really don't know what they are doing but everybody keeps chanting "please, oh please, oh please politicians and bureaucrats, please fix the problem that you created and create more problems and write more regulations and pass laws to create more confusion and take more tax money to pay to fix those laws only to create and make more incomprehensible laws and regulations to fix by creating more problems ad nauseam? So; what time will you quit hunting?? It will change everyday, so can't rightly tell you. May need to keep the GW on speed dial just to check in to see if there are anymore minutes left that can be used to kill a deer cause using common sense apparently ain't good enough for politicians, bureaucrats and a lot of people that tote a weapon in the woods.
Last edited by Fun4all; 05/12/16 05:09 PM.
"After all, it is not the killing that brings satisfaction; it is the contest of skill and cunning. The true hunter counts his achievement in proportion to the effort involved and the fairness of the sport." Dr. Saxton Pope
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Re: Bill defines legal hunting hours
[Re: BirminghamBuck]
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05/13/16 01:44 AM
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Round ‘bout there
Clem
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"Sunset" has always been, for deer hunters, used and as a common sense thing.
Can some folks see better than others when it's "dark thirty?" Sure. Open fields are more clear than woods, obviously. I have to leave my hunting spot in the woods because it's slap-ass too dark to see, yet walking back to my truck I could probably hunt another 10 minutes at least on the road(s). I don't but I could.
Better optics also help after "sunset." Many of us have waited probably well past "30 minutes after sunset" (or by some set time, like duck hunter specific time) because our scopes and binos give us the ability to see better than our eyes. The marketing stuff about "light gathering glass" is true, depending on your optics.
Deer hunting regs have always been "daylight hours, sunset" and not 30 minutes after sunset or anything else. Only duck hunting has set quitting times and a chart of official sunset/sunrise times to go by.
This is, or was, a non-issue that didn't need fixing or regulating. It should be common sense for folks to know when they need to get out of a stand or stop, and especially on their private land. Set starting-stopping times are used in other states (Ohio, for example) for deer hunting and it's really a PITA to be sitting there watching deer you could shoot knowing some legislator or bureaucrat thinks "Welp, time for you to leave and let the animals have their time."
But unless something changes, it's done. If the DCNR wants to make it more simple (I guess), then they could use the same sunrise-sunset chart used for waterfowl hunting.
Will be interested to see if citations are written for "shooting too late" or "night hunting" or how it'll transpire. Y'all be sure to have your orange, "harvest report" thingy (hey, don't forget the pen!) and maybe a doggone regulation booklet with you, too, so you can keep up with everything needed to know now for hunting. Instead of, y'know, just going and enjoying hunting.
Last edited by Clem; 05/13/16 01:45 AM.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Re: Bill defines legal hunting hours
[Re: Clem]
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05/13/16 03:00 AM
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"Sunset" has always been, for deer hunters, used and as a common sense thing.
Can some folks see better than others when it's "dark thirty?" Sure. Open fields are more clear than woods, obviously. I have to leave my hunting spot in the woods because it's slap-ass too dark to see, yet walking back to my truck I could probably hunt another 10 minutes at least on the road(s). I don't but I could.
Better optics also help after "sunset." Many of us have waited probably well past "30 minutes after sunset" (or by some set time, like duck hunter specific time) because our scopes and binos give us the ability to see better than our eyes. The marketing stuff about "light gathering glass" is true, depending on your optics.
Deer hunting regs have always been "daylight hours, sunset" and not 30 minutes after sunset or anything else. Only duck hunting has set quitting times and a chart of official sunset/sunrise times to go by.
This is, or was, a non-issue that didn't need fixing or regulating. It should be common sense for folks to know when they need to get out of a stand or stop, and especially on their private land. Set starting-stopping times are used in other states (Ohio, for example) for deer hunting and it's really a PITA to be sitting there watching deer you could shoot knowing some legislator or bureaucrat thinks "Welp, time for you to leave and let the animals have their time."
But unless something changes, it's done. If the DCNR wants to make it more simple (I guess), then they could use the same sunrise-sunset chart used for waterfowl hunting.
Will be interested to see if citations are written for "shooting too late" or "night hunting" or how it'll transpire. Y'all be sure to have your orange, "harvest report" thingy (hey, don't forget the pen!) and maybe a doggone regulation booklet with you, too, so you can keep up with everything needed to know now for hunting. Instead of, y'know, just going and enjoying hunting. Oh and lets not for get season running into February in NA. 
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Re: Bill defines legal hunting hours
[Re: BirminghamBuck]
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05/13/16 03:01 AM
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Round ‘bout there
Clem
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Well, you're in the woods or field. You have possession of a firearm and ammo or bow and arrows.
Someone might say you're hunting. Even if you're not. Common sense?
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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