Ben, this really isn't hard to understand. There are two players in this race. Those two being Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton. Like it or not they are the choices.

If Trump only does 15% of what he says, that's a hell of a lot more good you are going to get out of him than you are a stinking lowdown liberal Hillary Clinton.


You guys are refusing to vote for someone because he "may" steal your lunch money, when you know the other candidate will steal your lunch money and kick your ass just for the hell of it. Makes no sense to me.

Makes no sense at all.

Known quantity (atheist Marxist globalist anti American anti Christian zealot feminist biatch) vs. a possible center right pro American guy.

Lock the thread right here^^^^^

X2!

Whomever wins or steals the Presidency, the next four years (if we survive the next 7 months of the current administration) should be interesting. Now I'm going to make like a song and "Let it Go." No more political discussion for me until after the election. No one on here will change my mind. Only the good Lord can do that.

Maybe the Good Lord sent Trump to save this country.

There is O difference in the 2 choices in my opinion based on their past preformances

Do me a favor and don't tamper with my posts like that. It is immature and disrespectful.

If you want to make your own separate post have at it.

That has not been my objection. Mine has been based on the belief that with God, there is no middle ground. There is a right choice and a wrong choice and neither of the Republican or Democrat candidates seem like the kind of people God would have me endorse to lead this nation. Both have a host of qualities that are in direct opposition to the things God says a leader or a believer should possess. God said he didn't give us a spirit of fear and I don't think he'd have us give our vote based on a fear of the lesser evil.

There is no doubt that God has a right thing and a wrong thing for His people to do in this election. I've done the wrong thing to this point because I've relied on my own understanding, just like most other professed believers on this site have. I have said that I wouldn't vote for Trump under any circumstance but I'm saying right now that I'm going to pray about it until God gives me an answer as to the right decision to make. No man will save this nation but if this nation will humble itself and ask God to lead us everything could change. All believers should petition God for an answer and have the conviction to follow through no matter if we like the answer or not.

James 1:5 ESV

If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask God, who gives generously to all without reproach, and it will be given him.

My apologies for the above was not intended to be disrespectful.

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Known quantity (atheist Marxist globalist anti American anti Christian zealot feminist biatch) vs. a possible center right pro American guy, known quanity (liberal, adulterous ego maniac who supports the atheist Marxist globalist anti American anti Christian zealot feminist biatch.)

So what's the solution Ben? You going to vote for Hitlery to spite Trump.


It's either Trump or Hillary.

Nuh uh. There are other parties.

I've voted libertarian since Reagan was my CINC.

IMO there is no solution currently. I really don't think I can vote for either one of them as we know who they are. As I have said I expect Trump will win easily. I just think he is a terrible representation of what a Conservative Republican president should be. With that said the word Conservative Republican seems to mean different things to different people these days.

I also truly hope and pray Trump does everything he has said and goes down as one of the greatest presidents of all time but if he does not I think he destroys any chance of having a Republican candidate elected for 16 more years which will truly doom the US. I know a lot of you guys can't see my point of view along with a few others here. But I really don't have anything against the Donald. I am just so dissapointed in the entire process, we had the most important election of all time and we chose the one candidate that spent his life supporting everything republicans used to be against and now no one has any idea whether he is or is not what he now claims to be but the majority is fine taking that gamble. I will be glad when it is all over.

I don't think anyone really is considering Trump a true conservative republican.........

Everyone is arguing about what trump may or may not do. But just by his past history of comments, NO ONE has any idea what he will do. You guys are assuming that he's going to do what he says. You have no proof of that. His recanted a lot of what he said he would do. I for one don't like my choices of either. I hate having him in the White House as much as Hitlary. But IF he wins this election and is conservative to a degree, I'll eat crow. But either way does not look good for the conservative evangelical Christian.

Man, you folks are so argumentative. Glad I don't engage in this foolishness.

I'd like to know the last Republican president that was.

No doubt me too I was really hoping and think it was needed this time around but oh well maybe next time.

Eisenhower