Lol look at Bhamfred lol, his best answer to anything is "14 year old brain dead girl" lol.
My brother in law is a game warden, maybe not the funniest guy but he beats the hell out of the ego stroking, question masturbating, douches on here..... Although this is just a worthless internet opinion and they are probably good folk in "real life".

Does sound funny but I can assure it wasn't me. I could really care less about this anymore

Matt, nighthunter, others that work for the DCNR...thank you for posting on your lunch break and such like you do.
However, the official stance of the DCNR is not to be a participant or partner here. It has been that way since we came online almost 20 years ago. Which seems strange to us and basically every person who hunts in Alabama, but that is the way it is. They have made it clear that they do not really want to interact with the public in an open forum. I suspect that they are terrified by lawyers who reckon the DCNR cannot properly handle the 49er's of the World.

Over the years we have tried, we have even offered the DCNR their own forum for talking to the public. Nope, they don't want to do it. They just want to continue to hand down rules and regulations with virtually no real public input.

When gamecheck was first announced some three years ago the DCNR purchased an ad-spot and said nothing about it other than posting the ad. And btw it was a real pain in the ass just to get them to cut a check to pay for that spot.

So, after trying for many years, we have given up and decided that the official Aldeer position is that the DCNR does not get any freebies.

If they (DCNR) truly want to talk with the public on here then they are going to have to pay-up. That is the bottom line. They can purchase an entire forum, ad spot, or have an official DCNR post-person, or whatever if they wish. But no freebies.

Matt and Nighthunter need not give any more free info on this site for people to lazy to go to meetings yet get on here and cry that somebody has spilt their milk !
If I was Aldeer moderators I would be thanking these guys for frequently coming on and keeping us informed of what is being proposed etc . Everyone is not opposed to what Gamecheck might bring like I said we had 1 out of 35 that had a issue with it at the Jasper meeting and the one guy from my understanding is constantly calling or writing letters complaining .

You say we should be grateful for them voluntarily telling us about these things but don’t you think it’s the state’s responsibility to inform the public of major changes and meetings like this and not on the public’s to have to seek it out? I don’t mean Matt and NH’s responsibility to voluntarily do it either…..I mean for the DCNR to officially promote it well enough through different media outlets so that the public has a reasonable chance of finding out about it. You say…….”Fine!....Matt and NH just won’t come here and tell us about it on their own accord anymore.”……but if that’s the only way we were finding out about to begin with….isn’t that a reflection of a pretty chitty approach to informing the public. I imagine there are very few hunters in the state that routinely visit Outdoor Alabama to check for upcoming events. What percentage of hunters do you think know about these meetings? It's really no big surprise that there was such low participation in the voluntary check system.

Well Damn! I personally hope you don't stop contributing maybe just use that ignore on those that even after you answer the question the best you can keep beating the dead horse into the ground.....

Maybe you just need to learn how not to be such an aggravating ass to other people sometimes......

We were actually just trying to help those on here that might not check the other avenues we use to put the info out.

And in your rant above you have effectively said hunters must be spoon fed information like children. Sorry but a big part of the responsibility lies with the hunter to educate themselves.

The response I get from the top is Matt and Nighthunter post on here for the State but the State want pay , as I said to them they should be Blessed to have people like Matt and Nighthunter voluntarily keeping us posted on what might be coming in the future , these 2 guys are no different than any of us they are members not Sponsors and last time I checked we don't pay a membership so which is it a place for hunters to come enjoy being able to speak as a group if we wish or a paid site ?
I told them if I was these 2 guys I would never post another thing on this site related to any State issues .
We are suppose to be grown adults not a bunch of titty babies !

Damn dude…..it’s not about spoon feeding the public. You should have more perspective than that. It’s about effectively marketing the info to the public. If you want someone to hear about something and remember it….then you put it in front of their faces over and over. You don’t just post it at the bottom of your home page and hope the word gets out. This is most important change in deer hunting in the last few decades. Would you be ok if your bank changed up the rules and just left you to figure it out instead of reaching out to you to let you know?

I tell you what....why don't we just call a truce and let it go for a while fellas. There’s no need in us melting down the forum over out. I bow out.

I am actually kind of surprised that there is this much being said by the Department this early. It's June, deer season opens in October. I figured it would be announced and really marketed closer to hunting season. I know me personally, I had heard about this from Outdoor Alabama a few days before it blew up on Aldeer. Also, again this is just me, but I always take personal responsibility to find out season dates, limits, and other rule/regulation changes before the hunting season starts. I didn't think it was that novel of concept though (the personal responsibility part but Game Check, while new to Alabama, is not that novel of a concept either).

Just as an example, many years ago I once got a 5$ ticket for an 8.5" crappie. After court fee's, it was a 20$ ticket. I was just casting from the bank to see what I could catch and caught several bream, some warmouth, and a single decent crappie.
I had no idea there was even a size limit on crappie, especially so specific that 9" was the size limit. I had my fishing license and everything else was legal. It was my fault that I did not have the regulation book properly memorized. No gamewarden or DCNR official ever informed me of the reason why they made a size limit on crappie or that there was a dang size limit on crappie. I had never even had the idea that such a regulation was in place nor had I ever heard of such a regulation. But it was my fault for not being properly informed.

This scenario is why I don't like Game Check. It will, without a doubt, cause more regulations to be created. In the end, it will mean fewer hunters fooling with even going out. How can that be good?

So we put up here and somehow we're a$$ holes for not telling the public

There's 11,000 some odd folks on here.

See my point yet?

LOL.....The old fewer hunters because of regulations scenario. Have you ever hunted in these other states that already have these and way more regulations? I have and I can assure you that at least in Texas and Illinois there is no shortage of hunters. If a few measly rules stop someone from hunting then they probably never really enjoyed hunting anyway....

Bigt, if a few rules aren't a big deal, let's go ahead and institute across the board background checks and limit high capacity mags. It's really no big deal right?
Honestly, it's a perfect analogy.

I had not read any of this thread until now; I kinda hate to post in it cause I have resolved to be nicer around here.

But I can't resist asking Yotetrapper about the determination made that the mail in survey was overestimating the snapper harvest. How was it determined that all snapper fisherman were participating in Snapper Check and it is correct and the survey is wrong?

It is a virtual certainty that Game Check will reflect a lower harvest than the hunter survey. You can just read this forum and see that many hunters are openly saying they aren't gonna do it. It really concerns me if the dcnr is gonna say the Game Check info is right and the survey has been wrong all these years.

My fear is that someone has an agenda and it will be real easy to use the Game Check data to justify carrying it out. I hope my fear is unfounded, but your statement makes me wonder.

PCP, ofcourse Gamecheck will be used to further an agenda we are not aware of yet. Just look at who paid for it and who wrote off on it.
The DCNR does not like us talking like that, but it is what is, and it is the truth.
I really would like to see the meeting notes on how gamecheck came about, who came up with it, the logic behind it, etc...

Y'all are trying to look way too deep into something that isn't there.