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Re: Game Check Scenario [Re: NightHunter] #1764017
06/18/16 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted By: NightHunter

So we put up here and somehow we're a$$ holes for not telling the public slap

There's 11,000 some odd folks on here.

See my point yet?


I’m really trying to let this go NH as I really ain't mad at you and Matt……

But you ARE being an arshole dude and disrespectful to anyone who doesn’t agree with you. This is how you entered into the conversation about the game check meetings…….


“ Ah' hell hunters are going to complain regardless what we do. Finally we are going to do the biologically sound thing. I honestly don’t care if a few folks gripe. Progress hurts sometimes. Being one of three states WITHOUT a check system of some type is laughable. I'm glad to be getting off that list.

Folks that piss and moan about this have a burr in their ass over something other than the actual the process they are being required to complete.”


If you are going to contribute to fanning the flames and roll in the mud with everyone, then you can’t start crying about it and play the victim when the conversation heats up and some chit gets slung on you. It gets made out to be that it’s just everyone else bitching and being mean but you are to blame as well for causing some of your own headaches on here. You can’t mock and ridicule folks one moment and then throw your hands up in the air the next saying you were only trying to help them out and how dare they not appreciate it.

I think the fact that you and Matt come here is a good thing but if you are here to represent the DCNR then you need to treat the general crowd with more respect just like you would if we were having an in person meeting…..stay above the fray. Realize other folks are capable of grasping what’s going on too and may have a different perspective of the situation. Give folks space to have their opinions without ridiculing them for having one. Folks have the right to air out their grievances without the DCNR’s pubic relations man telling them that they are just lazy whiners who have burrs up their asses. Relay info….not personal NH opinions.

On a side note…..it’s disturbing at how many homosexuals have texted me trying to hook up. Y’all must have found a picture of me and they saw what a sexy beast I am. laugh


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Re: Game Check Scenario [Re: Remington270] #1764025
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Matt, nighthunter, other DCNR folks. We...the hunting public, the folks you do your jobs for totally understand. Its those closed door "people" in Montgomery who have the communication problem. But it has been that way for almost 20 years and I do not expect any of that to change. They hate being open and honest.


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Re: Game Check Scenario [Re: Remington270] #1764036
06/18/16 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted By: Remington270
Bigt, if a few rules aren't a big deal, let's go ahead and institute across the board background checks and limit high capacity mags. It's really no big deal right?
Honestly, it's a perfect analogy.


Honestly it is not even close ...........just some more serious overkill ......the sky is falling drama. There is nothing that Game check is requiring that will limit your ability to hunt the same as last year or the year before except a few minutes of your time. So not even close....


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Re: Game Check Scenario [Re: poorcountrypreacher] #1764037
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Originally Posted By: poorcountrypreacher
I had not read any of this thread until now; I kinda hate to post in it cause I have resolved to be nicer around here. smile

But I can't resist asking Yotetrapper about the determination made that the mail in survey was overestimating the snapper harvest. How was it determined that all snapper fisherman were participating in Snapper Check and it is correct and the survey is wrong?

It is a virtual certainty that Game Check will reflect a lower harvest than the hunter survey. You can just read this forum and see that many hunters are openly saying they aren't gonna do it. It really concerns me if the dcnr is gonna say the Game Check info is right and the survey has been wrong all these years.

My fear is that someone has an agenda and it will be real easy to use the Game Check data to justify carrying it out. I hope my fear is unfounded, but your statement makes me wonder.


If they all refuse to do it then it will just show how many outlaws we have hunting in Alabama and there is no telling what other game laws and regulations they have decided they are not going to follow.......


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Re: Game Check Scenario [Re: Skinny] #1764041
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Originally Posted By: Skinny
PCP, ofcourse Gamecheck will be used to further an agenda we are not aware of yet. Just look at who paid for it and who wrote off on it.
The DCNR does not like us talking like that, but it is what is, and it is the truth.
I really would like to see the meeting notes on how gamecheck came about, who came up with it, the logic behind it, etc...


I am sorry but I just can't see this great agenda everyone is so worried about. I have hunted in both Texas and Illinois both of which have similar programs and way more with a lot more enforcement and yet the hunters seem pretty dang happy,hunting opportunities are still there and people still shoot young bucks, old bucks and does. So basically the sky didn't fall and hunting is still going strong ......


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Re: Game Check Scenario [Re: Remington270] #1764045
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bigt...how old are you son? You should know that nothing official happens in Alabama without a hidden agenda. Somebody is set up to make some bank off this thing. If they were not, they would have hung it up back when it was shot the hell down 3 years ago.


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Re: Game Check Scenario [Re: Remington270] #1764048
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I would also like to know who is going to pay for the extra bandwidth on my Obama-Phone for this thing?


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Re: Game Check Scenario [Re: Skinny] #1764049
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Originally Posted By: Skinny
bigt...how old are you son? You should know that nothing official happens in Alabama without a hidden agenda. Somebody is set up to make some bank off this thing. If they were not, they have hung it up back when it was shot the hell down 3 years ago.


Closing in on 50 fast lol.....I have said it before I understand the distrust in Alabama for our politicians and the government, but I just honestly can't see where this has limited or hurt the hunting in the other state where similar programs are set up. If someone has any info showing where similar gamecheck laws have hurt or limited the hunting opportunities in those states then certainly I will understand the opposition to it.


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Re: Game Check Scenario [Re: Skinny] #1764050
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Originally Posted By: Skinny
I would also like to know who is going to pay for the extra bandwidth on my Obama-Phone for this thing?

I guess I will since I had to pay plenty of taxes the last few years.....your welcome smile


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Re: Game Check Scenario [Re: Remington270] #1764073
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CNC-. Actually I'm just being a butt to you. I did come into this one strong but there has been plenty of DCNR bashing lately. And it is personal to us. The fact is I haven't said anything that is false, which probably bothers you more.

Good luck this season! I hope to see you at a Game Check seminar. Surely by now everyone on here has at least gone to see when and where they are by now.

Re: Game Check Scenario [Re: Remington270] #1764075
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I would be willing to bet that in less than 5 years we will have tag fees and licenses costs will have increased by at least 50%.

Re: Game Check Scenario [Re: Remington270] #1764081
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Thats the thing, somebody went through the expense of making the app for a phone, that aint cheap, a software developer was paid. And the plan was put in place for the app long before any public input was even considered. And now we are supposed to do it, cause they think that everyone who hunts must own a smart phone? What kind of idiot who actually works with the public came up with that kind of nonsense? Someone who actually does not deal or live with the public.


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Re: Game Check Scenario [Re: Remington270] #1764092
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You can still use an old-fashion landline to call a toll-free number or use a website on the internet. You don't have to have smart phone or use the app.


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Re: Game Check Scenario [Re: bigt] #1764118
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Originally Posted By: bigt
Originally Posted By: Skinny
bigt...how old are you son? You should know that nothing official happens in Alabama without a hidden agenda. Somebody is set up to make some bank off this thing. If they were not, they have hung it up back when it was shot the hell down 3 years ago.


Closing in on 50 fast lol.....I have said it before I understand the distrust in Alabama for our politicians and the government, but I just honestly can't see where this has limited or hurt the hunting in the other state where similar programs are set up. If someone has any info showing where similar gamecheck laws have hurt or limited the hunting opportunities in those states then certainly I will understand the opposition to it.


Why wouldn't you demand proof from the government that it will actually be effective? Instead of demanding proof from us that it will be onerous and a hassle? The burden of proof should be on them to prove why it's necessary.

Re: Game Check Scenario [Re: NightHunter] #1764123
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Originally Posted By: NightHunter
Actually I'm just being a butt......


Lookie there….I knew we could find some common ground. grin grin


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Re: Game Check Scenario [Re: NightHunter] #1764153
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Quote:
... I hope to see you at a Game Check seminar. Surely by now everyone on here has at least gone to see when and where they are by now.


Here is the link to the Game Check seminars times, dates, locations:

http://www.outdooralabama.com/game-check-seminar-series


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Re: Game Check Scenario [Re: R_H_Clark] #1764160
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Originally Posted By: R_H_Clark
I would be willing to bet that in less than 5 years we will have tag fees and licenses costs will have increased by at least 50%.


Tags ain't happening.

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Big, big proponent of tags ...



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Re: Game Check Scenario [Re: Remington270] #1764227
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She can keep em, Clem!

Re: Game Check Scenario [Re: Remington270] #1764486
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Originally Posted By: Remington270
Originally Posted By: bigt
Originally Posted By: Skinny
bigt...how old are you son? You should know that nothing official happens in Alabama without a hidden agenda. Somebody is set up to make some bank off this thing. If they were not, they have hung it up back when it was shot the hell down 3 years ago.


Closing in on 50 fast lol.....I have said it before I understand the distrust in Alabama for our politicians and the government, but I just honestly can't see where this has limited or hurt the hunting in the other state where similar programs are set up. If someone has any info showing where similar gamecheck laws have hurt or limited the hunting opportunities in those states then certainly I will understand the opposition to it.


Why wouldn't you demand proof from the government that it will actually be effective? Instead of demanding proof from us that it will be onerous and a hassle? The burden of proof should be on them to prove why it's necessary.


Because I have hunted in states will similiar programs and it was not onerous nor a hassle and the hunting was good and all the hunters I encountered seemed to be happy with the hunting experience overall. So I just don't see the big deal and I hope that with more data they will be able to make better decisions in the future....


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