LOL - I love the concept that limits and call-ins are going to stop over and illegal harvests.

Heck, why didn't I think of it!

We should make murder, drugs and theft all illegal, too!!!!

It's not like a speed limit. We already have limits for deer. It would be like you are required to check it and report how many miles you have driven in which county and on which dates. This information is vital to know where the traffic is/was so speed limits can be adjusted for your benefit. While this may not be the perfect analogy, I think it does show that regulations are not always helpful or make sense.

Until they know how many deer should be killed, what sense does it make to track how many deer have been killed? If someone would say, we don't know but we are going to use the harvest data to try and determine that, then I could see maybe where it is needed. If the harvest data is known and population censuses are conducted yearly and it can be determined that the overall herd is growing/shrinking/or whatever, and adjustments are made to the regulations to adjust the harvest, then that makes sense to me. However, "we need the data because we are only one of 3 states that don't get it and we don't want to look like we are behind the times so complain all you want, but we are getting it", doesn't seem like a very good reason to me.

Maybe getting this data is just a start. Maybe there are more plans to obtain additional data in the future, but you have to start somewhere and build gradually over time???

I'm not against supplying the data if it will help, but it sure would be nice for someone to logically explain HOW it will be used and why it is necessary. Yotetrapper is the only one that has attempted this, that I have seen.

I still have the same questions, 1) How many deer should be killed annually, and 2) What is the goal for the deer herd, to decrease it, maintain it, or grow it???

How do you know the population is going down since we don't have gamecheck to tell us?

Since you know the population is going down without gamecheck,then why do we need gamecheck?

Since you know what the population is without gamecheck ,why not just have doe days again?

Then you obviously need to stop hunting that area. You didn't need gamecheck to tell you that.

Waiting on the state to "fix" that area for them.

You are absolutely right that I didn't need game check to tell me that but I am not the one that gets to set seasons and limits either. They are the ones that need to get as much data as possible to make the best decisions for the resource as possible. As far as stop hunting the area well since I have only killed one deer in twelve years off my hundred acres but have continued planting food sources in hopes of at least saving a few deer from getting shot and hopefully start rebuilding the herd I think I am already there. Now if I could just some more people to do the same but that's not as easy as you would think. When you talk to the neighbors they all say the deer population is way down but then they will say we got to keep killing does to ever get big bucks or the I only seen a doe or two all season but I shot them since I needed some meat in my freezer ........smh

Well the State is the one that screwed it up to begin with with liberal doe seasons and pushing the thought that you can't kill too many does and all the while still allowing the buck a day limit go for way too long with the wholesale slaughter of the buck makers. We would have never needed buck limits if they would have started with a more conservative approach to the doe season. The problem they created can not be fixed by education only it will take some sort of adjustment to the doe season in areas hurting and if more data is needed for the biologist to convince the CAB then I am in support of it.

Fix a government program with another government program. You can't make this stuff up any better. But hey, that's worked so well in the past, why not?

Lol. The state screws it up, but will continue to trust the state to not to screw it up. Good thing you trust the state to "fix" it.

So what you really want is for the state to suspend the harvest of does in your area and you are hoping gamecheck will accomplish that?

I'm still not sure why we can't promote DMAP and use that data to support decision making on matters like bigt is wanting to see changed. They didn't have to harvest very many deer to determine conception dates and use that to support season changes. What was it...like 5-10 deer per site or something like that? We sure didn't have to check every deer for the data to be good enough and we didn't have to force hunters to participate either. What can't DMAP give us a good enough data to use at CAB meetings?

Last time I checked the State is the only one that can set limits and season. So yes I will hope that those running the show now will do a better job this time around. Now give me the power to set seasons and limits and I will be more than happy to drop the gamecheck program for you guys

Again it is not a trust factor......it's the only route we have since they set the seasons and limits. Y'all crack me up lol

I am hoping that with this and other data they will make better decisions in the future about the resource and not blanket one size fits all regulations for the whole state.

It possibly would and I have no problem with that route, but in my almost fifty years of hunting I know of no one that has ever used that program around here so they would have to do a way better job of promoting it to be effective with it.

Bless your heart. Maybe you do need the GameCheck. I hope it solves all your doe killing problems in your area to the way that you see fit.

They need to get QDMA to start a "NO DOE KILLING" campaign. It was about when they started the "SHOOT ALL DOES" campaign that the populations started getting messed up.

Shocktop your so funny ......

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(merely trying to add levity)