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Re: Child Custody Lawyer
[Re: sdw]
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06/23/16 05:55 AM
06/23/16 05:55 AM
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Conecuh county
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What are you trying to hide? Are you seriously trying to pay less support to your child by hiding your tax records? 1st class right there. Probably trying not to let some scumbag lawyer look at his finances when him and his ex have already come to an agreement otherwise.
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Re: Child Custody Lawyer
[Re: Deerslyer86]
#1768150
06/23/16 06:09 AM
06/23/16 06:09 AM
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Cape San Blas, Florida
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It would be nice for a dad to pay receipts for his childs needs instead of financing a tax-free hedonistic lifestyle for the ex wife and her new boyfriend/girlfriend.
Last edited by Deadwood; 06/23/16 06:12 AM. Reason: sign o' the times
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Re: Child Custody Lawyer
[Re: Deadwood]
#1768153
06/23/16 06:09 AM
06/23/16 06:09 AM
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sdw
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It would be nice for a dad to pay receipts for his childs needs instead of financing a tax-free hedonistic lifestyle for the ex wife and her new boyfriend. I agree with this 100%!
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Re: Child Custody Lawyer
[Re: sdw]
#1768170
06/23/16 06:22 AM
06/23/16 06:22 AM
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Hartselle, Al
Deerslyer86
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What are you trying to hide? Are you seriously trying to pay less support to your child by hiding your tax records? 1st class right there. Het if my son is that much trouble and expensive for her to raise then send him to me and let me raise him and I'll not ask her for a dime. Also if we've came to an agreement on what CS should be I find it that it's none of that lawyer business nor is it the court business on how much I make
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Re: Child Custody Lawyer
[Re: Deadwood]
#1768172
06/23/16 06:23 AM
06/23/16 06:23 AM
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Hartselle, Al
Deerslyer86
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It would be nice for a dad to pay receipts for his childs needs instead of financing a tax-free hedonistic lifestyle for the ex wife and her new boyfriend/girlfriend. No what I wish is that they would put a max on a CS. A man that makes $12 an hr shouldn't have to pay a lot less then a man that makes $40 an hr. My kid is no better than that other man child is nor does he cost more
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Re: Child Custody Lawyer
[Re: Deerslyer86]
#1768195
06/23/16 06:42 AM
06/23/16 06:42 AM
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Come on guys, everyone should know by now that Child Support is set by the Court BY LAW according to the Alabama Child Support Guidelines. The Amount in the Guidelines is calculated on the monthly incomes of both parties. There is very little leeway in setting the child support amount. No matter what the parties agree to, the child support Guidelines control. They can be modified under some extremely rare circumstances, but the parties must convince the Court that it is in the best interest of the child and that extra ordinary circumstances exist to justify a deviation from the Guidelines.
One thing that most people do not recognize is that the Court will have continuing jurisdiction over the children of a marriage and that the children become, in fact, wards of the Court until they reach the age of majority. Hence the Court is charged to act in the "Best Interest" of the child regardless of what the parties agree to. That is why the Court can reach back a number of years to recover unpaid child support. You would be amazed at the amounts that some non-custodial parents owe because they did not pay the total of the Court ordered child support.
So yes, the other lawyer can and should ask for all financial records even in the event of an agreement on child support. To do otherwise could be considered malpractice. And good grief, Alabama child support is so low I doubt an ex could live much of a hedonistic life style on child support.
I know of one man who is paying $1000.00 per month for his six, that's right six children under the age of 13. What kind of life can a woman provide for six children, feeding them, housing them, and clothing them, paying for transportation and medicine.
Remember, you are still a parent. You owe child support to the child not the wife. I think you should make sure that your children have what they need rather than trying to punish your ex-spouse. I know of cases where the child, upon reaching the age of majority, sued both the divorced mother and father for not paying the child support the non-custodial parent was obligated to pay, and the custodial parent for failing to collect it.
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Re: Child Custody Lawyer
[Re: Deerslyer86]
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06/23/16 06:58 AM
06/23/16 06:58 AM
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Cape San Blas, Florida
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That makes a person wonder why ALL expenses incurred raising a brood of children in a MARRIED household are not totally tax free.
In the mean time, a single dad who loses a custody battle is driving around in a rip of a vehicle, eating Ramen noodles for every meal, while the female with the kids is driving a new set of wheels and still bitching about money.
Yes, I'm aware of the lame write off on your annual 1040. But I'm beating a dead horse.
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Re: Child Custody Lawyer
[Re: Deerslyer86]
#1768250
06/23/16 07:34 AM
06/23/16 07:34 AM
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Your mom’s house
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CS was set 4 yrs ago. Me and my ex have joint custody I have him every other week. I already pay CS. So now that he has reached age to start school we have to go back to court to determine who has custody. Instead of spending all that lawyer fees money we came to an agreement she'll have custody I'll have every weekend and during summer months every other week and we keep child support that same as it had been the last 4 yrs but apparently her lawyer says that's fine we can keep it the same, but he needs to know my income That isn't legal. Child custody agreements and child support must be set by the court under the law. Now, you can agree to something different if you want, after the court enters its order. But, it can come back and bite you on the ass when she gets mad, goes to court and gets an order for you to pay all the back child support. The lawyer isn't trying to screw you, the lawyer is following the law.
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Re: Child Custody Lawyer
[Re: judge sharpe]
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06/23/16 07:41 AM
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I know of one man who is paying $1000.00 per month for his six, that's right six children under the age of 13. What kind of life can a woman provide for six children, feeding them, housing them, and clothing them, paying for transportation and medicine.
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Sorry to derail the OP's post but Im going to play devils advocate. What you leave out here is what that mans monthly income was. What kind of life can that man have if he say only takes $1900 a month home and then $1000 of that goes to her leaving him $900. Could you live on that a month? I worked with a guy 12 years ago who divorced with 2 kids. Wife got custody and they set up child support thru court. After CS deductions from his 40 hr check his take home was $126 a week. No way in hell that man could pay rent, utilities, buy gas and eat on that. I saw a old check prior to his CS went in effect and his take home was about $400.... IMHO from $400 to $126 that wasnt "set so low" as you say they are. Im all for paying your fair share but it has to match the income and not just screw the person (man or woman) who is paying over.
Ethical behavior is doing the right thing when no one else is watching - even when doing the wrong thing is legal. Aldo Leopold .. (except when it comes to trailer tags)
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Re: Child Custody Lawyer
[Re: Deerslyer86]
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06/23/16 07:50 AM
06/23/16 07:50 AM
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Fayetteville TN Via Selma
jawbone
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CS was set 4 yrs ago. Me and my ex have joint custody I have him every other week. I already pay CS. So now that he has reached age to start school we have to go back to court to determine who has custody. Instead of spending all that lawyer fees money we came to an agreement she'll have custody I'll have every weekend and during summer months every other week and we keep child support that same as it had been the last 4 yrs but apparently her lawyer says that's fine we can keep it the same, but he needs to know my income OK, Advice from someone who was the first responder/supervisor of first responder of more calls to police regarding custody disputes than I could begin to count. A custody paper that says "every other weekend" means nothing to an officer. We don't know what happened last weekend. Have the judge sign something definitive showing what weekend belongs to what parent. Take the time to write out a calendar with alternating weekends being weekend A and weekend B. A is Mom, B is Dad. While truthfully, there is usually really nothing an officer can do when one side won't budge, but they can write a report that will show one side being the more reasonable so that when it gets back in front of a judge, he can see the officers opinion that was there at the time. That may or may not aid him in his decision, but it shouldn't hurt.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Re: Child Custody Lawyer
[Re: judge sharpe]
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06/23/16 07:53 AM
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Come on guys, everyone should know by now that Child Support is set by the Court BY LAW according to the Alabama Child Support Guidelines. The Amount in the Guidelines is calculated on the monthly incomes of both parties. There is very little leeway in setting the child support amount. No matter what the parties agree to, the child support Guidelines control. They can be modified under some extremely rare circumstances, but the parties must convince the Court that it is in the best interest of the child and that extra ordinary circumstances exist to justify a deviation from the Guidelines.
One thing that most people do not recognize is that the Court will have continuing jurisdiction over the children of a marriage and that the children become, in fact, wards of the Court until they reach the age of majority. Hence the Court is charged to act in the "Best Interest" of the child regardless of what the parties agree to. That is why the Court can reach back a number of years to recover unpaid child support. You would be amazed at the amounts that some non-custodial parents owe because they did not pay the total of the Court ordered child support.
So yes, the other lawyer can and should ask for all financial records even in the event of an agreement on child support. To do otherwise could be considered malpractice. And good grief, Alabama child support is so low I doubt an ex could live much of a hedonistic life style on child support.
I know of one man who is paying $1000.00 per month for his six, that's right six children under the age of 13. What kind of life can a woman provide for six children, feeding them, housing them, and clothing them, paying for transportation and medicine.
Remember, you are still a parent. You owe child support to the child not the wife. I think you should make sure that your children have what they need rather than trying to punish your ex-spouse. I know of cases where the child, upon reaching the age of majority, sued both the divorced mother and father for not paying the child support the non-custodial parent was obligated to pay, and the custodial parent for failing to collect it. I beg to differ on the good Ole screwing some parents put on others during a divorce. I know first hand from my parents and from two very close friends of mine. My dad paid my mom under a $100 a month for 3 kids every other month was $118. We had split week custody one parent had use wed. Night, Thurs. Friday, and Saturday the other parent picked us up sunday morning had us sund,Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. Every quarter they swapped. A close friend of mine. Pays $1000 dollars a month for 1 (ONE) child. And her mother and new husband blow through that buying crap for them not towards the child, the other pays $700 a month for his daughter which he paid to the mother and the mother took him back to court for more said because that wasn't enough for her to not work and raise a child he had custody every other weekend. And he's the one that filled for divorce because me and him came in a day early from a 3 day fishing trip and her and her contact worker were just chilling in the pool naked. Some how he got it worked out that he pays the same amount set but it gets put in a savings account set up by the court that the daughter can only access when she's 18. He said that way atleast she can have a college fund if she wants to go or do what she pleases with it as long as her mother wasn't blowing out of her ass
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Re: Child Custody Lawyer
[Re: doekiller]
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06/23/16 12:19 PM
06/23/16 12:19 PM
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Hartselle, Al
Deerslyer86
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CS was set 4 yrs ago. Me and my ex have joint custody I have him every other week. I already pay CS. So now that he has reached age to start school we have to go back to court to determine who has custody. Instead of spending all that lawyer fees money we came to an agreement she'll have custody I'll have every weekend and during summer months every other week and we keep child support that same as it had been the last 4 yrs but apparently her lawyer says that's fine we can keep it the same, but he needs to know my income . How is it not legal a judge set that CS. I know what it cost to raise a child the bs I hear about the electric bill, house note, water bill and etc. guess what guys that woman still had to pay that chit regardless she is raising a child. That isn't legal. Child custody agreements and child support must be set by the court under the law. Now, you can agree to something different if you want, after the court enters its order. But, it can come back and bite you on the ass when she gets mad, goes to court and gets an order for you to pay all the back child support. The lawyer isn't trying to screw you, the lawyer is following the law.
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