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Re: Maternity leave at work?
[Re: BirminghamBuck]
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09/08/16 06:51 AM
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At the end of our lives I doubt any of us will be wishing we had spent more time at work. I am not at my end yet, and Lord willing I have some more time. I don't wish I had worked more right now. I doubt that will be changing. This thread sheds light on some of today's societal problems if you ask me. A man's duty is not just to work, but to also be a father and a husband. So a provider....? I can understand a week or two, especially if it's paid, but 12 weeks unpaid? Holy crap that's ridiculous. I'll have my mother and mother in law come in to help out.
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Re: Maternity leave at work?
[Re: BirminghamBuck]
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09/08/16 06:54 AM
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This thread sheds light on some of today's societal problems if you ask me. A man's duty is not just to work, but to also be a father and a husband.
I don't think working hard and being a good father are mutally exclusive, at all. And today's societal problems have to do with males (I won't call them men) impregnating a woman and never playing a part in the child's life. It's not the 55 hour workweek that's the problem in the black community, that one is for sure.
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Re: Maternity leave at work?
[Re: Remington270]
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09/08/16 07:34 AM
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This thread sheds light on some of today's societal problems if you ask me. A man's duty is not just to work, but to also be a father and a husband.
I don't think working hard and being a good father are mutally exclusive, at all. Nor do I. I am not sure why you took it that I did. That's why I used the word "also" in my statement.
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Re: Maternity leave at work?
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09/08/16 10:02 AM
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First off people that are running the show can't take off 4 weeks for a baby. Doesn't happen. If you want to run the show one day keep that in mind. If you want to just do your job and go home then take off all you want. Just understand the higher ups remember stuff like that. I've seen all this kind of thing go down. If you aren't going to stay where you are... take off all you can I guess. Every situation is different. BUT - If you think some dummy pulling a lever that works for you taking off a couple weeks for a baby will chap your arse.... You ought to deal with some foreigners. I have had to deal with some companies in various other countries and they'll take a month off for Vacation EVERY YEAR...and those SOB's are gone... not answering e-mails or give a flying rip if you need anything while they are out. They freaking vanish and act like it ain't no big deal. I've had to wait a month for some dumbarse to get back before getting things handled before. Seriously. Americans work more for less pay and have more stress riding on their jobs than anywhere else I've ever had to deal with. I have never had to deal with some Japanese though, so that might be the only other place.
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Re: Maternity leave at work?
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09/08/16 10:10 AM
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Well after thinking it over, im going to just take my 2 weeks of paid vacation for the entire year to stay home and help my wife and spend time with the baby, i cant see taking 6 weeks off of work.. thanks for the replies everyone
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Re: Maternity leave at work?
[Re: Goatkiller]
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09/08/16 10:15 AM
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First off people that are running the show can't take off 4 weeks for a baby. Doesn't happen. If you want to run the show one day keep that in mind. If you want to just do your job and go home then take off all you want. Just understand the higher ups remember stuff like that. I've seen all this kind of thing go down. If you aren't going to stay where you are... take off all you can I guess. Every situation is different. BUT - If you think some dummy pulling a lever that works for you taking off a couple weeks for a baby will chap your arse.... You ought to deal with some foreigners. I have had to deal with some companies in various other countries and they'll take a month off for Vacation EVERY YEAR...and those SOB's are gone... not answering e-mails or give a flying rip if you need anything while they are out. They freaking vanish and act like it ain't no big deal. I've had to wait a month for some dumbarse to get back before getting things handled before. Seriously. Americans work more for less pay and have more stress riding on their jobs than anywhere else I've ever had to deal with. I have never had to deal with some Japanese though, so that might be the only other place. Imo, the " people running the show" should have enough common sense to know , vacation is just that.. its a vacation that gets approved before hand, my company phones and computer are off when im on vacation, if i happen to check my phone and hear a important voicemail i will return it, but then again im not in managment and dont make any decisions that they cant figure out due to not getting in touch with me.
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Re: Maternity leave at work?
[Re: Remington270]
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09/08/16 10:34 AM
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This thread sheds light on some of today's societal problems if you ask me. A man's duty is not just to work, but to also be a father and a husband.
I don't think working hard and being a good father are mutally exclusive, at all. Exactly. I know that sometimes my wife, kids and I wish I hadn't worked as hard as I did several years back, but what they got instead of an at home Dad all the time was a decent life and a good example of what a man should be.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Re: Maternity leave at work?
[Re: Southwood7]
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09/08/16 10:40 AM
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At the end of our lives I doubt any of us will be wishing we had spent more time at work. You will when your old and can't retire because you haven't spent enough time at work. There is time for work and time for play. As always, moderation.
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Re: Maternity leave at work?
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09/08/16 10:52 AM
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What kind of scheldule does youre work offer? Found out we offer 6 weeks off, no pay, i like everythimg about it but the no pay part. I think the man was asking what kind of schedule YOUR work offers. You know, comparables. Not how you felt about how much time was acceptable. This'n went to crap in a hurry. Congratulations Steelman. I hope mom and baby do OK.
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Re: Maternity leave at work?
[Re: Deadwood]
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09/08/16 10:58 AM
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What kind of scheldule does youre work offer? Found out we offer 6 weeks off, no pay, i like everythimg about it but the no pay part. I think the man was asking what kind of schedule YOUR work offers. You know, comparables. Not how you felt about how much time was acceptable. This'n went to crap in a hurry. Congratulations Steelman. I hope mom and baby do OK. That would be correct deadwood, but it was fun reading all the replies and thanks deadwood.
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Re: Maternity leave at work?
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09/08/16 11:32 AM
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It was kinda fun reading it all.
I have a friend who took 6 weeks off. He was the sorriest sack of chit you've ever seen. Dude was hunting every day, etc. Now, he said he stayed up all night so mama could sleep but no one would define it as "family leave."
Anyway, that always skewed my perspective.
Congrats steelman.
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Re: Maternity leave at work?
[Re: Goatkiller]
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09/08/16 02:32 PM
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I have had to deal with some companies in various other countries and they'll take a month off for Vacation EVERY YEAR...and those SOB's are gone... not answering e-mails or give a flying rip if you need anything while they are out. They freaking vanish and act like it ain't no big deal. My wife works for a global company with offices in Europe and deals with this every year. They plan for it and just deal with it. Those on holiday in Europe do exactly as you said: they are off -- off means off to them, not "I'll be in touch" or "Call-email if you need something." They take vacation and forget about work. I try to do the same. An off day means I'm gone, period. Vacation means I'm not available, period. If I happen to check in, text or something else, that's on me. But I plan accordingly beforehand and when I'm not working, I'm not working. That's what vacation and off days should be. Bosses and/or top management may not be able to always do this but IMO every employee should try to do so. It ain't a vacation or off day if you're having to answer some bullchit or get on a "mandatory" conference call or anything else.
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Re: Maternity leave at work?
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09/08/16 06:07 PM
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When my son was born I didn't miss a day. Showed up at the hospital a little before the c section stayed up all night with her and Jordan I was back at work the next morning. 6 weeks is ridiculous 12 weeks I'd find a reason to let them go when they got back. I understand you need time to spend with kids but you've also got a responsibility to the people you work for
We will burn that bridge when we get there
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Re: Maternity leave at work?
[Re: Beadlescomb]
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09/09/16 12:14 AM
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When my son was born I didn't miss a day. Showed up at the hospital a little before the c section stayed up all night with her and Jordan I was back at work the next morning. 6 weeks is ridiculous 12 weeks I'd find a reason to let them go when they got back. I understand you need time to spend with kids but you've also got a responsibility to the people you work for Then you would end up in court.
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Re: Maternity leave at work?
[Re: doekiller]
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09/09/16 12:26 AM
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When my son was born I didn't miss a day. Showed up at the hospital a little before the c section stayed up all night with her and Jordan I was back at work the next morning. 6 weeks is ridiculous 12 weeks I'd find a reason to let them go when they got back. I understand you need time to spend with kids but you've also got a responsibility to the people you work for Then you would end up in court. Not nessecarily.
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Re: Maternity leave at work?
[Re: Beadlescomb]
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09/09/16 12:36 AM
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When my son was born I didn't miss a day. Showed up at the hospital a little before the c section stayed up all night with her and Jordan I was back at work the next morning. 6 weeks is ridiculous 12 weeks I'd find a reason to let them go when they got back. I understand you need time to spend with kids but you've also got a responsibility to the people you work for Then you would end up in court. Not nessecarily. Okay. I'm sure your correct. No one would ever sue you for retaliatory discharge for taking a leave given to them by federal law. I have never defended those cases because no one would ever be smart enough to figure out the real reason you fired them. No jury would ever see their employee file and see they had no issues or write ups before they took their leave and think you started looking for reasons to fire them. Your right, I'm sure you are correct. I don't know what I am talking about. I should always assume you know more about the law than I do.
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Re: Maternity leave at work?
[Re: Clem]
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09/09/16 03:20 AM
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I have had to deal with some companies in various other countries and they'll take a month off for Vacation EVERY YEAR...and those SOB's are gone... not answering e-mails or give a flying rip if you need anything while they are out. They freaking vanish and act like it ain't no big deal. An off day means I'm gone, period. Vacation means I'm not available, period. If I happen to check in, text or something else, that's on me. But I plan accordingly beforehand and when I'm not working, I'm not working. That's what vacation and off days should be. This is me. If I work for 10 minutes my vacation day becomes a billed work day. When I am off I am off.
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Re: Maternity leave at work?
[Re: Beadlescomb]
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6 weeks is ridiculous 12 weeks I'd find a reason to let them go when they got back. I understand you need time to spend with kids but you've also got a responsibility to the people you work for Anyone with balls would sue you to Kingdom Come and likely win easily if you retaliated in this way. And should.
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