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To all the Blackhorn 209 lovers.... #1812114
08/11/16 02:25 PM
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Ya'll are full of crap. laugh

It won't corrode a barrel as bad but it will darn sure corrode one if left fouled for any amount of time! This is twice now it has corroded mine pretty bad. First chance I get, I'm going to a smokeless.

Last edited by JUGHEAD; 08/11/16 02:26 PM.

"The only reason I shoot a 3.5" shell for turkeys is because they don't make a 4" one." - t123winters
Re: To all the Blackhorn 209 lovers.... [Re: JUGHEAD] #1812692
08/12/16 07:15 AM
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thank you Jughead never liked Blackhorn either

Re: To all the Blackhorn 209 lovers.... [Re: Standbanger] #1812762
08/12/16 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Standbanger
thank you Jughead never liked Blackhorn either
I certainly like it better than 777 and Pyrodex (easier to clean up than either of them), but it's still the same ol song and dance on the corrosion front though....just not as bad.


"The only reason I shoot a 3.5" shell for turkeys is because they don't make a 4" one." - t123winters
Re: To all the Blackhorn 209 lovers.... [Re: JUGHEAD] #1812905
08/12/16 12:26 PM
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I guess I might ought to shoot the BH out of mine, it's been loaded since last fall.


"When you've stared down the barrel of a shotgun in your own home, 3rd & 20 don't seem too bad"......Ken "Snake" Stabler
Re: To all the Blackhorn 209 lovers.... [Re: .308] #1813010
08/12/16 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by .308
I guess I might ought to shoot the BH out of mine, it's been loaded since last fall.


I would be interested in what your barrel looks like after it being loaded for so long. I agree that it is corrosive when fired and left fouled but I have loaded mine at the beginning of the ML season and left it there for over a month with no damage whatsoever.


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Re: To all the Blackhorn 209 lovers.... [Re: JUGHEAD] #1813277
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I left mine loaded with Pyrodex for months before with no damage. It was loaded in a clean barrel.


"When you've stared down the barrel of a shotgun in your own home, 3rd & 20 don't seem too bad"......Ken "Snake" Stabler
Re: To all the Blackhorn 209 lovers.... [Re: JUGHEAD] #1817227
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You still have to clean it at the end of the day after you shoot it and you never leave it loaded for more than a few days at a time. Just better that way. Moisture can enter the barrel in humid conditions and cause your powder to not fire well if left in the barrel for an extended time.

Re: To all the Blackhorn 209 lovers.... [Re: JUGHEAD] #1818185
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I'm told Windex with Vinegar is awesome black powder cleaner.


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Re: To all the Blackhorn 209 lovers.... [Re: JUGHEAD] #1819439
08/19/16 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by JUGHEAD
Ya'll are full of crap. laugh

It won't corrode a barrel as bad but it will darn sure corrode one if left fouled for any amount of time! This is twice now it has corroded mine pretty bad. First chance I get, I'm going to a smokeless.


I'll bet Lumpy could write you a check for a million dollars and you'd beech about it being in the wrong colored ink.... rolleyes grin

Last edited by Claims Rep.; 08/19/16 12:21 PM.

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Re: To all the Blackhorn 209 lovers.... [Re: Claims Rep.] #1819484
08/19/16 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Claims Rep.
I'll bet Lumpy could write you a check for a million dollars and you'd beech about it being in the wrong colored ink.... rolleyes grin
I was about to offer to buy one of your scopes and even give you more than you're asking. Too bad now Betty Blackhorn...you can just keep it. laugh


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Re: To all the Blackhorn 209 lovers.... [Re: JUGHEAD] #1819685
08/19/16 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by JUGHEAD
Originally Posted by Claims Rep.
I'll bet Lumpy could write you a check for a million dollars and you'd beech about it being in the wrong colored ink.... rolleyes grin
I was about to offer to buy one of your scopes and even give you more than you're asking. Too bad now Betty Blackhorn...you can just keep it. laugh


Um hmmm... rolleyes grin


Jesus... I hope you know Him personally like I do.

Si vis pacem, para bellum.

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Re: To all the Blackhorn 209 lovers.... [Re: JUGHEAD] #1825709
08/26/16 02:18 AM
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It's been my favorite black powder substitute so far, but I've always cleaned after firing and before putting up before season up. First season tho last year but didnt notice anything during period I left loaded. Accuracy has been second to none so far for me wit BH really woke my Encore up.

Re: To all the Blackhorn 209 lovers.... [Re: mr.clif] #1830671
08/31/16 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by mr.clif
It's been my favorite black powder substitute so far, but I've always cleaned after firing and before putting up before season up. First season tho last year but didnt notice anything during period I left loaded. Accuracy has been second to none so far for me wit BH really woke my Encore up.
It is my favorite too. It truly is some good stuff. I still want to make the move to smokeless though. grin


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Re: To all the Blackhorn 209 lovers.... [Re: JUGHEAD] #1830711
08/31/16 05:40 AM
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I haven't had a reason to leave the pellets.


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Re: To all the Blackhorn 209 lovers.... [Re: N2TRKYS] #1831013
08/31/16 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by N2TRKYS
I haven't had a reason to leave the pellets.
Says the guy that believes TSS 7's are necessary to kill a turkey. In other words, your opinion don't count. grin


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Re: To all the Blackhorn 209 lovers.... [Re: JUGHEAD] #1831037
08/31/16 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by JUGHEAD
Originally Posted by N2TRKYS
I haven't had a reason to leave the pellets.
Says the guy that believes TSS 7's are necessary to kill a turkey. In other words, your opinion don't count. grin


Not necessary, just better. And it's 7.5s. Lol

But then again, my muzzleloader isn't corroding, either.


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Re: To all the Blackhorn 209 lovers.... [Re: N2TRKYS] #1831057
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Originally Posted by N2TRKYS
But then again, my muzzleloader isn't corroding, either.
Leave it fouled for a couple of months after shooting it with those pellets and come report back. laugh

I swapped to Blackhorn because I had 3 or 4 different people tell me they had left their barrels fouled for several months with no corrosion. Seemed like a cheaper/better solution (for lazy arses like me) than a smokeless MZ. Mine rusted like hell though. Might be because mine is blued instead of stainless. I dunno. I'll prolly just pass it down to my son for when he needs one (ain't got but about $175 in it including scope and it is super accurate). I'm on the lookout for a smokeless. Piss on the rest of it!


"The only reason I shoot a 3.5" shell for turkeys is because they don't make a 4" one." - t123winters
Re: To all the Blackhorn 209 lovers.... [Re: JUGHEAD] #1839423
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Smokeless is the ONLY way to go.


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Re: To all the Blackhorn 209 lovers.... [Re: Snuffy] #1841872
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Most people are to lazy to properly take care of a muzzleloader. I sight in with a clean barrel, therefore my barrel is always clean. I have left mine loaded for 6 months with blackhorn without a problem.

Re: To all the Blackhorn 209 lovers.... [Re: gbee] #1842393
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Originally Posted by gbee
Most people are to lazy to properly take care of a muzzleloader. I sight in with a clean barrel, therefore my barrel is always clean. I have left mine loaded for 6 months with blackhorn without a problem.
So if you miss on the first shot or if you wanted to stay and try to kill a buck after shooting a doe....you clean it in the tree or just go home and clean it instead of keeping on hunting? That has always been my issue with the "sighting it in with a clean barrel" argument. It just ain't practical from a hunting standpoint when hunts often span long weekends, consecutive weekends, etc. If they shot the same on a clean barrel versus a fouled one it would be super easy to deal with one but they don't...and that's why they suck regardless of which powder you put in em!


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