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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: CNC] #1866213
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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: CNC] #1868086
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Been runnin' a pair of sprinklers on 1/4 acre for last 2 weeks. 5 sessions of 1hr each 2 or 3 days apart. The plot was half a** plowed and disced to same level of proficiency. This was due to dryness. Then sprayed Gly and seeded with BL Full Draw and EH Mega forage same day in mid sept. Mowed sides in over to help. Fertilized same day as 1st watering. Getting green were water is hitting pretty much.


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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: CNC] #1868859
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Originally Posted By: CNC
Originally Posted By: hitek
Planted most of my plots the generic disk and sow method and tried the "throw n mow" method on 3 plots. I will say, during these drought times, the generic disk and sow method was the only plots that we got seeds to germinate and grow with the one rain we have had since planting...


With the weather the way it is right now, that may end up being a detriment that it sprouted. I wouldnt call winners and losers just yet. As long as the birds arent hammering the fields then your seed is still there in the T&M plots. I know hunting clubs plan certain planting weekends in advance but with the current conditions the way they are.it would be better to not plant at all right now. I know that doesnt sound like an option for many but going ahead with planting right now is a huge gamble regardless of the method. It would really be good to let it go ahead and rain first before we all started trying to plant. Its gonna take a really good rain event to turn around the brown drought were getting into. These are just horrible planting times.worst I can remember seeing for fall plots.


With the turkeys we have, pretty much any seed that has not sprouted yet will be gone... It is all going to end up bad.

Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: CNC] #1872540
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Well, i been pulling back my thatch and looking and i've still got plenty of seed on the ground. One thing i've noticed since i started using a sprinkler on a couple plots, is that if you have really good thatch, it will take a couple hours of running the sprinkler to get the soil damp. The thatch will prevent premature sprouting during a lite rain. Crimson, i think you were talking about this very thing a few days ago. Where i had disk a small strip for dove hunting and threw out some wheat, sprouted after our last rain. It is 1" high and probably ain't going to make it. No rain here in over 2 weeks. None of my thatch plots sprouted, except the one where i'm using the sprinkler.

Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: blumsden] #1872564
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Originally Posted By: blumsden
Well, i been pulling back my thatch and looking and i've still got plenty of seed on the ground. One thing i've noticed since i started using a sprinkler on a couple plots, is that if you have really good thatch, it will take a couple hours of running the sprinkler to get the soil damp. The thatch will prevent premature sprouting during a lite rain. Crimson, i think you were talking about this very thing a few days ago. Where i had disk a small strip for dove hunting and threw out some wheat, sprouted after our last rain. It is 1" high and probably ain't going to make it. No rain here in over 2 weeks. None of my thatch plots sprouted, except the one where i'm using the sprinkler.



Yep..Ive noticed that too. It takes a significant rain event to saturate your thatch and the soil. I guess thats a good thing though. Once it does come a good rain then youre golden for the same reasonthe thatch holds a chit ton of moisture.


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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: CNC] #1872949
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Planning to plant my field right behind the house this weekend. I can get a hose to it after adding a lot of sections. Looks like I won't have any other plots till November at this rate. May have to buy a bale or two of hay to strew on some thin areas.

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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: CNC] #1873176
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I planted Kale, radishes, and turnips during the last rain we had in September. They were looking great last weekend under the thatch. Today........pretty much all of them are shriveled and dead or gone. I'm going to wait on my rye and clover.


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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: CNC] #1874771
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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: CNC] #1874978
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Dang, crimson, what happened? One of your apple tree's fall over?

Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: blumsden] #1875136
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Originally Posted By: blumsden
Dang, crimson, what happened? One of your apple tree's fall over?


Those are Japanese persimmons. Its so loaded that theyre pulling the limbs to the ground. The first ones are just starting to get ripe. If you look on the ground, you can see where I just mowed a circle around it. Its about to get ugly when the deer find it. Kind of surprised they havent already started hittin em.


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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: CNC] #1875907
10/13/16 04:07 AM
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you should def put a camera on it


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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: CNC] #1875946
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Its a good thing the limbs are low. My Jap Persimmons do not drop.

Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: CNC] #1875957
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I've never heard of a Japanese persimmon. Do deer prefer them over regular persimmons or is it about the same?

Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: crenshawco] #1875994
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Originally Posted By: crenshawco
I've never heard of a Japanese persimmon. Do deer prefer them over regular persimmons or is it about the same?


Yes, theyre like deer crack. They dont taste like a regular persimmon.theyve got this really odd sweet taste to it. Some people like to eat them but I dont care for em too much. The downside is that they dont drop from the limbs even when they get ripe. That means you have to do something to train the tree to not have the form of one main trunk. Its just been coincidence with this one but I see how I need to do my new ones with future plantings. I like these trees because they really put out the fruit and it doesnt ripen until deer season. Its not quite ready yet. The pic doesn't do it justice...it's LOADED! One tree will probably go quick when they start on it but if you had say 15-20 of them....that'd be a good little bit of fruit in one spot.

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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: CNC] #1876050
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That's pretty interesting. How quickly do they grow?

Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: crenshawco] #1876074
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Originally Posted By: crenshawco
That's pretty interesting. How quickly do they grow?


Eh...a little slower than other fruit trees I'd say but they start producing fruit very early. It'll likely put off a few persimmons in it's second year. The one in the pic is in the 5-6 year old range.


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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: CNC] #1876722
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Does are already hitting my little 1/4 ac plot 5 weeks after planting. The irrigation is working but I wish they were eating acorns for a few more weeks to give the plants some more time.


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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: CNC] #1879418
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Planted 6 plots this weekend. It was overcast Sat afternoon and Sun morning, but no rain. It'll be interesting to see how these plots turn out this year. I experimented with spraying vs not spraying as I'm trying to get rid of unwanted grass in a couple of plots.

Creek Plot- Feb 2016



Creek Plot- Oct 2016
Sprayed May and Sept
Planted 10/16 with Rye, Crimson and Advantage Clover


Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: CNC] #1882305
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They bumped the rain chance to 80% and a good chance next week... I'm putting seed out tomorrow Lord willing.


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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: Clark8907] #1885926
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After planting last Sunday and building a redneck greenfield watering stand I have seeds starting to sprout. I may build one more to keep me from having to move it. But I definitely have some take off and this cooler weather should help.


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