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Large Rifle Primers #1854186
09/23/16 12:50 PM
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I've been using CCI #250 large rifle primers since I started reloading. What issues could I expect to encounter if I switched to Winchester large rifle primers?


Last edited by Rocket62; 09/23/16 01:02 PM.


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Re: Large Rifle Primers [Re: Rocket62] #1854196
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Those are pistol primers, so expect a big change. Lol


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Re: Large Rifle Primers [Re: Rocket62] #1854197
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Dang, how did I do that? Editing ...



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Re: Large Rifle Primers [Re: Rocket62] #1854198
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These or the magnum version



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Re: Large Rifle Primers [Re: Rocket62] #1854201
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I use WLRM primers in several of my loads. They've given me higher velocity with some powders, which in turn, equates to higher pressures. Although, I haven't noticed enough, pressure wise, to keep me from running a listed book max. If you're shooting your rifle's max, you may want to drop half a grain or 10%(like it's always said) below that charge.


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Re: Large Rifle Primers [Re: Rocket62] #1854204
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CCI250 is the magnum. CCI200 is the large rifle. WLR is large rifle. WLRM is the magnum.


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Re: Large Rifle Primers [Re: Rocket62] #1854205
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Hotter or colder "burn".Drop load 10% and youll be ok.


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Re: Large Rifle Primers [Re: Rocket62] #1854207
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Ok thanks guys. That's what I needed to know. I'm running my 243 super hot, looks like I need to drop a grain or two and work back up



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Re: Large Rifle Primers [Re: Rocket62] #1854210
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Originally Posted By: Rocket62
Ok thanks guys. That's what I needed to know. I'm running my 243 super hot, looks like I need to drop a grain or two and work back up


80 grains Barnes bullet?


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Re: Large Rifle Primers [Re: Rocket62] #1854212
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Re: Large Rifle Primers [Re: Rocket62] #1854296
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Issue I have found is Winchester primers seem like they run a tad small(diameter size). Cci fit fine, Winchester are super loose.

That is what I have found

Re: Large Rifle Primers [Re: lefthorn] #1854518
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Originally Posted By: lefthorn
Issue I have found is Winchester primers seem like they run a tad small(diameter size). Cci fit fine, Winchester are super loose.

That is what I have found



What was the measurement of your WLR and CCI primers?

All my primers(CCI, Winchester, and Federal) all measure the same. I'm interested to hear how yours measure out.

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Re: Large Rifle Primers [Re: Rocket62] #1855063
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Haven't measured yet. I am out of town but will try to measure them Wednesday or Thursday

Re: Large Rifle Primers [Re: Rocket62] #1855105
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Ok. Thanks.


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Re: Large Rifle Primers [Re: Rocket62] #1859747
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Winchester measure 0.2090
CCI measure 0.2100

CCI are a fuzz deeper too

Went back and remeasured several times and corected the measurements

Last edited by lefthorn; 09/28/16 02:03 PM. Reason: Fixed measurements
Re: Large Rifle Primers [Re: Rocket62] #1948986
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What about federal 209 primers are they to hot

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209 is a shotgun primer.


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Re: Large Rifle Primers [Re: Rocket62] #1949724
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Try this info. http://www.jamescalhoon.com/primers_and_pressure.php

Might answer a few questions.

Re: Large Rifle Primers [Re: rothirsch] #1949754
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Originally Posted By: rothirsch
Try this info. http://www.jamescalhoon.com/primers_and_pressure.php

Might answer a few questions.

Excellent thanks.



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Re: Large Rifle Primers [Re: Rocket62] #1950819
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The Winchester primers can be loose. Just be aware and don't assume the brass is shot.


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