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Re: I still don't like trump... [Re: Atoler] #1909843
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What I meant was that what you said might actually be possible because although I disagree with his politics I don't think he's unethical.


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Re: I still don't like trump... [Re: bill] #1909848
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What I meant was that what you said might actually be possible because although I disagree with his politics I don't think he's unethical.


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Re: I still don't like trump... [Re: Atoler] #1909873
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Originally Posted By: Atoler
I held my nose and voted for him yesterday, but that hasn't changed my opinion of him based on his history. I think he is a very capable person, I'm simply not convinced of his intentions. I really hope that I'm wrong and most of you are right. We will have to wait and see on that end.

Either way, some of y'all need a reality check. I'm seeing all these claims of what he's going to do, what he will accomplish. Any real positive improvements will take multiple president's contributions. If he can get one or two policies implemented, he will be highly successful.


Like you, I think he is capable. I think he will get some stuff done. But I'm also going to wait and see what he actually does. It will be interesting to play out, that is for sure. I'm willing to admit I'm not on the Trump Train, as far as him as a person. But I think, I hope, he will be a capable leader.

I don't have a reason to be convinced of that, YET.

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Originally Posted By: perchjerker
No little boy you need to grow up. You're 25 yrs old. You know nothing. Boo Hoo I feel your pain. The reality check is yours.


I've held my tongue with you because of your health. I've gone so far as to put you on ignore. Congratulations, you're the only one.

Your response, lacking in substance and personally attacking me, spells out the kind of person you are. Your posts constantly speak volumes about you. I had hoped that you simply were in so much pain that you have a chit attitude. I question that now.

Let me spell this out for you and outdoor obsession. People your age have frak-Ed our country. Your life experiences have taught both of you plenty, that I don't know. How to pick an elected official is not one of those things. You and the rest of baby boomers have an awful track record. All of the problems we face today, are your failures. Your generation has saddled me with an enormous weight on my back. Not only are the few tax payers my age loaded down with regulation, a shitty economy, and a massive tax load, we face a mountain of medical bills and social security checks that we will be responsible for. As your generation ages (I'm sure you are already taking advantage of it) our burden will increase, and as you all die off, we are left holding the bag. I'm not hopeful that my generation will do any better, but we are too screwed to start with, to ever know.

So, screw off with the age stuff. You've proven over your lifetimes that you don't know a damn thing about picking a president.

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Originally Posted By: Atoler
Originally Posted By: perchjerker
No little boy you need to grow up. You're 25 yrs old. You know nothing. Boo Hoo I feel your pain. The reality check is yours.


I've held my tongue with you because of your health. I've gone so far as to put you on ignore. Congratulations, you're the only one.

Your response, lacking in substance and personally attacking me, spells out the kind of person you are. Your posts constantly speak volumes about you. I had hoped that you simply were in so much pain that you have a chit attitude. I question that now.

Let me spell this out for you and outdoor obsession. People your age have frak-Ed our country. Your life experiences have taught both of you plenty, that I don't know. How to pick an elected official is not one of those things. You and the rest of baby boomers have an awful track record. All of the problems we face today, are your failures. Your generation has saddled me with an enormous weight on my back. Not only are the few tax payers my age loaded down with regulation, a shitty economy, and a massive tax load, we face a mountain of medical bills and social security checks that we will be responsible for. As your generation ages (I'm sure you are already taking advantage of it) our burden will increase, and as you all die off, we are left holding the bag. I'm not hopeful that my generation will do any better, but we are too screwed to start with, to ever know.

So, screw off with the age stuff. You've proven over your lifetimes that you don't know a damn thing about picking a president.


I'm pretty sure you wouldn't want to be grouped with all these crybaby bitches that are protesting tonight simply due to your age. That's what you just did to perch and outdoor.

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Re: I still don't like trump... [Re: MorningAir] #1909889
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Originally Posted By: MorningAir
He was definitely the best choice, but I really worry that he might believe in the trickle down economics theory.

If he does believe that really works for the middle class, we are in big trouble in 4 years. Probably going to be in worse shape than we are now if that ends up being his strategy. I feel like he knows that can't be the sole strategy, so there is some hope.



Did you really say this? What liberal idjit you been listening too?


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Re: I still don't like trump... [Re: Atoler] #1909921
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Originally Posted By: extreme heights hunter
Originally Posted By: Atoler
Originally Posted By: perchjerker
No little boy you need to grow up. You're 25 yrs old. You know nothing. Boo Hoo I feel your pain. The reality check is yours.


I've held my tongue with you because of your health. I've gone so far as to put you on ignore. Congratulations, you're the only one.

Your response, lacking in substance and personally attacking me, spells out the kind of person you are. Your posts constantly speak volumes about you. I had hoped that you simply were in so much pain that you have a chit attitude. I question that now.

Let me spell this out for you and outdoor obsession. People your age have frak-Ed our country. Your life experiences have taught both of you plenty, that I don't know. How to pick an elected official is not one of those things. You and the rest of baby boomers have an awful track record. All of the problems we face today, are your failures. Your generation has saddled me with an enormous weight on my back. Not only are the few tax payers my age loaded down with regulation, a shitty economy, and a massive tax load, we face a mountain of medical bills and social security checks that we will be responsible for. As your generation ages (I'm sure you are already taking advantage of it) our burden will increase, and as you all die off, we are left holding the bag. I'm not hopeful that my generation will do any better, but we are too screwed to start with, to ever know.

So, screw off with the age stuff. You've proven over your lifetimes that you don't know a damn thing about picking a president.


I'm pretty sure you wouldn't want to be grouped with all these crybaby bitches that are protesting tonight simply due to your age. That's what you just did to perch and outdoor.


not really, I'm grouping the two of them with other right leaning voters who have watched our society degrade to this point, over their lifetimes. It's been a constant downhill trend through their voting careers. If they want to demean me about my age, regardless of substance, I'll classify them by theirs, with substance.

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Originally Posted By: MorningAir


If he does believe that really works for the middle class, we are in big trouble in 4 years. Probably going to be in worse shape than we are now if that ends up being his strategy. I feel like he knows that can't be the sole strategy, so there is some hope.


Can't say that I agree with you there.

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Re: I still don't like trump... [Re: Atoler] #1909925
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When government health care is out of your life. Along with being taxed to death, plus some new 20,000 additional government regulations that Barry signed into action. And a bunch of illegals are stopped from living off of your social security that you have payed in you should stop and hold your nose and thank Donald Trump.


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Re: I still don't like trump... [Re: extreme heights hunter] #1909927
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HE GOT THE CLINTONS OUT OF POLITICS FOR GOD SAKES!

Re: I still don't like trump... [Re: leroycnbucks] #1909934
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Originally Posted By: leroycnbucks
When government health care is out of your life. Along with being taxed to death, plus some new 20,000 additional government regulations that Barry signed into action. And a bunch of illegals are stopped from living off of your social security that you have payed in you should stop and hold your nose and thank Donald Trump.


Maybe, you are missing this. I voted for him. If he does all that, I'll like the guy.

simply because I have reservations, doesn't mean I don't want him to succeed. Expecting him to magically make good on most of his campaign promises is a little out there though. And honestly, we can't handle that abrupt of a change. Whatever happens with illegals needs to be phased in, same with bringing jobs back.

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Re: I still don't like trump... [Re: extreme heights hunter] #1910074
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Originally Posted By: extreme heights hunter
Originally Posted By: Atoler
Originally Posted By: perchjerker
No little boy you need to grow up. You're 25 yrs old. You know nothing. Boo Hoo I feel your pain. The reality check is yours.


I've held my tongue with you because of your health. I've gone so far as to put you on ignore. Congratulations, you're the only one.

Your response, lacking in substance and personally attacking me, spells out the kind of person you are. Your posts constantly speak volumes about you. I had hoped that you simply were in so much pain that you have a chit attitude. I question that now.

Let me spell this out for you and outdoor obsession. People your age have frak-Ed our country. Your life experiences have taught both of you plenty, that I don't know. How to pick an elected official is not one of those things. You and the rest of baby boomers have an awful track record. All of the problems we face today, are your failures. Your generation has saddled me with an enormous weight on my back. Not only are the few tax payers my age loaded down with regulation, a shitty economy, and a massive tax load, we face a mountain of medical bills and social security checks that we will be responsible for. As your generation ages (I'm sure you are already taking advantage of it) our burden will increase, and as you all die off, we are left holding the bag. I'm not hopeful that my generation will do any better, but we are too screwed to start with, to ever know.

So, screw off with the age stuff. You've proven over your lifetimes that you don't know a damn thing about picking a president.


I'm pretty sure you wouldn't want to be grouped with all these crybaby bitches that are protesting tonight simply due to your age. That's what you just did to perch and outdoor.


I'm unfortunately part of that generation of lazy azz,free loading, whiny bitches I'm 26. But theres two parts of that generation. Theres the ones like us that work hard,bust azz and dont expect a hand out, get out there and earn it the only one that can fix your situation is you and you can't do it sitting on your azz or with a pacifier in your mouth......Then there's this guy who comes off as the whiny bitchy finger pointing half of our generation thats always looking for someone to blame for problems instead of maning up accepting the problem and then overcoming the problem.
Theres always two sides. I would not like to be classified as the latter half I mentioned even though I'm part of the generation as a whole

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Originally Posted By: Atoler
Originally Posted By: perchjerker
No little boy you need to grow up. You're 25 yrs old. You know nothing. Boo Hoo I feel your pain. The reality check is yours.


I've held my tongue with you because of your health. I've gone so far as to put you on ignore. Congratulations, you're the only one.

Your response, lacking in substance and personally attacking me, spells out the kind of person you are. Your posts constantly speak volumes about you. I had hoped that you simply were in so much pain that you have a chit attitude. I question that now.

Let me spell this out for you and outdoor obsession. People your age have frak-Ed our country. Your life experiences have taught both of you plenty, that I don't know. How to pick an elected official is not one of those things. You and the rest of baby boomers have an awful track record. All of the problems we face today, are your failures. Your generation has saddled me with an enormous weight on my back. Not only are the few tax payers my age loaded down with regulation, a shitty economy, and a massive tax load, we face a mountain of medical bills and social security checks that we will be responsible for. As your generation ages (I'm sure you are already taking advantage of it) our burden will increase, and as you all die off, we are left holding the bag. I'm not hopeful that my generation will do any better, but we are too screwed to start with, to ever know.

So, screw off with the age stuff. You've proven over your lifetimes that you don't know a damn thing about picking a president.


Anger issues much?

LOL..a lot you know about past presidents. We voted in Reagan..who was a good president. You must have been indoctrinated early in life to think any otherwise. Clinton worked WITH repubs, and on 9/11 Bush was a hero.

Also, the 80s and 90s were actually great years economically. People, businesses and personal wealth grew...but forget all that..just believe what youve been spoon fed by the liberal educators and media...we LIVED it.

And dont blame us for the chitty economy..look around you and blame your PEERS, those are the idiots who voted for Obozo..not us.

I think you are the typical know it all young 25 yr that thinks the rest of us owe him something, thinks he knows EVERYTHING, way more then his elders and has NO RESPECT for his elders.

You come across as an arrogant know it all who thinks he knows more about life, politics, hunting and just about everything else , then people who have done it A LOT longer..while you dont know CHIT.
Still in college..but you know it all. SMDH.

Typical millenial.

You talk about attacking someone over their age..but then you do the same thing too.

Boy, you knew all about this election too didnt you? Ole Trump had no chance in your opinion. However a lot of us older then you remember Carter/Reagan. The media said Reagan had no chance either. But he did..he won..just like TRUMP did. How did we know that was going to happen? EXPERIENCE kid. Wisdom of past years, similiar situations..and similiar results. The american people were angry..and they were going to make a change. Its called a CHANGE election for that very reason.

Unlike you..they have experience based on not just IDEAS..but the REALITY of what has happened in the past. History..experience, the wisdom you get as you age.

When I was young..we were taught to respect and Learn from our elders..people who had LIVED and EXPERIENCED way more then us.

I took that seriously.

Now we have a generation that thinks they know it all from reading it on the INTERNET. Because we all know it you find it there..it has to be true.

It reminds me of a young guy I hunted with..he knew it all too. From experience..no..but because he read all about it in magazines and on the internet. Never shot a good buck his entire life..still hasnt. But boy..hed argue all about big bucks with myself and a couple of guys that were big buck killers.
He would tell them what they were doing wrong...but would he ever listen? Heck no. Because when you KNOW IT ALL..or think you do, then you can NEVER learn.

I guess its been maybe 8 years since youve even been able to think as an adult,(if youre 25), employee any process of critical thinking that wasnt centered around chasing chicks in school and playing sports etc.

But I guess youve learned a lifetime of knowledge in that short time. More then people with a couple of college DEGREES, and 30 -40 years of critical thinking, experience, etc.

Also, dont take offense ..it is a thing that happens all the time with young guys. I know..Im the father of a kid your dam age.

However, one thing he doesnt do is disrespect his elders or go on at length about how he knows everything. And hes got 2 4yr degrees with honors and is going to law school.
But hes learned critical thinking..as the LSAT's are all about critical thinking, and he realizes book learning, youth and piss and vinegar..doesnt equal EXPERIENCE and the WISDOM of age..

I think if you didnt argue so much, tried to learn and listen..youd be alot better off. One thing I taught my kid..is you DONT learn by TALKING..you learn by listening.

Sorry my one little comment about age set you off. I have seen you can be pretty thin skinned. But you made this very thread LOOKING for a reaction JUST to be argumentive IMO.

Well whatever..good luck and one more thing...its time to MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!
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Originally Posted By: deerfeeder89
Originally Posted By: extreme heights hunter
Originally Posted By: Atoler
Originally Posted By: perchjerker
No little boy you need to grow up. You're 25 yrs old. You know nothing. Boo Hoo I feel your pain. The reality check is yours.


I've held my tongue with you because of your health. I've gone so far as to put you on ignore. Congratulations, you're the only one.

Your response, lacking in substance and personally attacking me, spells out the kind of person you are. Your posts constantly speak volumes about you. I had hoped that you simply were in so much pain that you have a chit attitude. I question that now.

Let me spell this out for you and outdoor obsession. People your age have frak-Ed our country. Your life experiences have taught both of you plenty, that I don't know. How to pick an elected official is not one of those things. You and the rest of baby boomers have an awful track record. All of the problems we face today, are your failures. Your generation has saddled me with an enormous weight on my back. Not only are the few tax payers my age loaded down with regulation, a shitty economy, and a massive tax load, we face a mountain of medical bills and social security checks that we will be responsible for. As your generation ages (I'm sure you are already taking advantage of it) our burden will increase, and as you all die off, we are left holding the bag. I'm not hopeful that my generation will do any better, but we are too screwed to start with, to ever know.

So, screw off with the age stuff. You've proven over your lifetimes that you don't know a damn thing about picking a president.


I'm pretty sure you wouldn't want to be grouped with all these crybaby bitches that are protesting tonight simply due to your age. That's what you just did to perch and outdoor.


I'm unfortunately part of that generation of lazy azz,free loading, whiny bitches I'm 26. But theres two parts of that generation. Theres the ones like us that work hard,bust azz and dont expect a hand out, get out there and earn it the only one that can fix your situation is you and you can't do it sitting on your azz or with a pacifier in your mouth......Then there's this guy who comes off as the whiny bitchy finger pointing half of our generation thats always looking for someone to blame for problems instead of maning up accepting the problem and then overcoming the problem.
Theres always two sides. I would not like to be classified as the latter half I mentioned even though I'm part of the generation as a whole


Good man. I like your attitude and have worked with young guys just like you .
Really open to learning..and asked QUESTIONS..to learn.
You have my respect...and sorry about your generation. A lot of buttercup, whining , know it all, has to be their way kids these days. Its sad.

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How the 18-25 year old voted, sad
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How the 18-25 year old voted, sad
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I think that's awesome! Now they get to see why they don't know what they'll they're talking about.

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How the 18-25 year old voted, sad
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EXACTLY! And right there is the future of America...but Atoler wants to blame us older folks. slap

And hes gonna have to support us? I guess the 41 years I paid over 20% of my income into Social Security and Medicare was for fun? So I could use it for maybe 5 - 10 years after I retire..which the age has gone up constantly?? Ill be maybe 70 before I can collect...and might live 5-10 years. slap

But wait..I forgot..he knows it all. I better thank him in advance in case I get Alzheimer and forget to.

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Re: I still don't like trump... [Re: Atoler] #1910154
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Originally Posted By: Atoler
Originally Posted By: perchjerker
No little boy you need to grow up. You're 25 yrs old. You know nothing. Boo Hoo I feel your pain. The reality check is yours.


I've held my tongue with you because of your health. I've gone so far as to put you on ignore. Congratulations, you're the only one.

Your response, lacking in substance and personally attacking me, spells out the kind of person you are. Your posts constantly speak volumes about you. I had hoped that you simply were in so much pain that you have a chit attitude. I question that now.

Let me spell this out for you and outdoor obsession. People your age have frak-Ed our country. Your life experiences have taught both of you plenty, that I don't know. How to pick an elected official is not one of those things. You and the rest of baby boomers have an awful track record. All of the problems we face today, are your failures. Your generation has saddled me with an enormous weight on my back. Not only are the few tax payers my age loaded down with regulation, a shitty economy, and a massive tax load, we face a mountain of medical bills and social security checks that we will be responsible for. As your generation ages (I'm sure you are already taking advantage of it) our burden will increase, and as you all die off, we are left holding the bag. I'm not hopeful that my generation will do any better, but we are too screwed to start with, to ever know.

So, screw off with the age stuff. You've proven over your lifetimes that you don't know a damn thing about picking a president.


Relax man. Perchjerker is just playing a role on the forum here. I kind of think of him as one of those Finebaum callers that likes to rant all the time. Just keep that perspective on it.

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