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Re: I still don't like trump... [Re: ] #1910160
11/10/16 03:26 AM
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Exactly. x2. Hard to tell people whove been alive twice as long as you how much you know..... slap [/quote]

Irishguy..if this statement could get him that worked up...he isnt gonna listen. Thin skinned..

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Re: I still don't like trump... [Re: Atoler] #1910163
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Deerfeeder89, please post more often. thumbup

Re: I still don't like trump... [Re: captjab] #1910165
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Originally Posted By: captjab
Deerfeeder89, please post more often. thumbup


I agree.

Re: I still don't like trump... [Re: Atoler] #1910172
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Atoler, I have no problem with people that have different political views than myself. That's one of the many things that make this country what it is.
I do have an issue with people that want to blame the white working class man for their problems.
I've always been taught to respect my elders and it has gotten me a hell of a lot further in life than the blame game you want to play.

Re: I still don't like trump... [Re: captjab] #1910176
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Originally Posted By: captjab
Atoler, I have no problem with people that have different political views than myself. That's one of the many things that make this country what it is.
I do have an issue with people that want to blame the white working class man for their problems.
I've always been taught to respect my elders and it has gotten me a hell of a lot further in life than the blame game you want to play.


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Re: I still don't like trump... [Re: Atoler] #1910189
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Trump is about to work WITH folks like Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer. He’s not about to usher in the conservative platform that many of you are hoping for. He’s not a conservative. He only said what he needed to say to get elected. He’s gonna make deals and those deals are gonna include things that the other side want to see. Gay marriage is not going away…….abortions are not about to be outlawed……millions of illegal immigrants are not about to be deported. My hope is that he will at least fix our economic problems, rebuild our infrastructure, and gun rights are hopefully now safe for a few more years. Outside of that though, I think y’all are gonna be very disappointed if you think we’re really headed in a different direction. Our society will continue to become more progressive. This will only slow down the pendulum from swinging that way quite so fast.


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Re: I still don't like trump... [Re: Atoler] #1910196
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ol Ricky Schroder is at it again i see. Should have titled the thread. "NOT MY PRESIDENT... NOT MY PRESIDENT"


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Re: I still don't like trump... [Re: Atoler] #1910200
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Re: I still don't like trump... [Re: Atoler] #1910215
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Re: I still don't like trump... [Re: Atoler] #1910220
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Originally Posted By: Atoler
I held my nose and voted for him yesterday, but that hasn't changed my opinion of him based on his history. I think he is a very capable person, I'm simply not convinced of his intentions. I really hope that I'm wrong and most of you are right. We will have to wait and see on that end.

Either way, some of y'all need a reality check. I'm seeing all these claims of what he's going to do, what he will accomplish. Any real positive improvements will take multiple president's contributions. If he can get one or two policies implemented, he will be highly successful.


It's not the 1st time lots of us w' grey hair have had to hold our nose while voting for someone. Thankfully I've lived long enough to have cast my ballot for some great ones that came before. None of them were perfect either but I believe they loved their country and wanted to improve the lives of it's citizens.

Trump's idea of what'll make us great again is a heck of a lot better than what HRC had in mind. That is the bottom line and what many of us voted for.

Re: I still don't like trump... [Re: Atoler] #1910221
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Tell him how you really feel Troy. rofl

Re: I still don't like trump... [Re: Atoler] #1910224
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Exactly Troy.

These young guys want to blame us for their troubles..but here is the REALITY:

http://www.politico.com/story/2012/11/study-youth-vote-was-decisive-083510

2012..67% of 18-28 yr old MILLENIALS vote for Obozo for KING!

in 2008 it was 66% for Obozo:

http://www.pewresearch.org/2008/11/13/young-voters-in-the-2008-election/

Thats the reality...you younger guys have noone to blame but youre own age group. They got him elected..and they are the ones needing "Safe spaces" "time outs" the rest of the week free from work or college to "heal", Dogs to pet to help them "get through the injustice", and "Grief conselling".

What a bunch of molly coddled whining little cry baby pansies!

They need to grow up.

Before Atoler starts talking about who "our" generations ( multiple I might add) voted for..he better look at WHO HIS generation has elected! Obozo..twice.

Ill take our record with Reagan, Bush etc. then Obozo 2x!

And a majority of HIS generation once again..voted for Hitlery.

Facts are a hard thing to deny. Reality check is his to take..not ours like he tried to say!

Just like it will take "several" Presidents to clean up this mess. No..it took ONE in 8 years with a pen doing executive orders to get us in it.
It will only take a day for him to sign executive orders UNDOING them with his pen..If he lets the border patrol CATCH illegals..instead of babysitting them..thats a big improvement.

Repeal Obamacare..another big hurdle.

So it wont take several presidents..it will just take 1, with a repub house and senate..and thats what we have. We also have a pissed off electorate that will PUNISH any repub pols that obstruct it from being done by getting them out of office.

So, again,the kids wrong.

Also, on a day when many of us are celebrating.. it comes as selfish and arrogant for him to come in playing "Debbie Downer" and stating what HE EXPECTS from the president. It is laughable actually..and again..highlights his arrogance.

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Re: I still don't like trump... [Re: SouthBamaSlayer] #1910239
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Originally Posted By: SouthBamaSlayer

Originally Posted By: Atoler
I held my nose and voted for him yesterday, but that hasn't changed my opinion of him based on his history. I think he is a very capable person, I'm simply not convinced of his intentions. I really hope that I'm wrong and most of you are right. We will have to wait and see on that end.

Either way, some of y'all need a reality check. I'm seeing all these claims of what he's going to do, what he will accomplish. Any real positive improvements will take multiple president's contributions. If he can get one or two policies implemented, he will be highly successful.


That's incorrect, because all of Obama's doings can be undone in the first 100 days. The only thing that requires Congressional repeal is Obamacare. Everything else was done by executive order, and Trump can just rip those up. I'm in no way saying he will do those things, I'm just saying that positive improvements will not take multiple presidents.


There is a provision in Obamacare that requires 60 votes. He can get those 60 votes with a little whipping. We have to remember though, the problem has always been the use of Senate procedure by the democrats and a republican congress refusing to fight it even with a majority. But, it will take a spine on the part of the republicans (looking at you McConnell) to cut the blood supply off through budget reconciliation.

Another note: I am really hoping the people of Kentucky wise up and boost that idiot. I am just about sick and tired of Mitch sabotaging everything the good republicans want to do.


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Re: I still don't like trump... [Re: captjab] #1910248
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Atoler - as bad as it is today it was just this bad after Carter. Keep that in mind. You sound a lot like me when I was trying to figure out how we got to where we are today. What I figured out is they didn't tell us the whole story in our history or political science classes. We learned about behavior and political theory. And you can see how useful that was this past Tuesday. All the intellectuals...They all got it wrong. They fed me and I'm sure you since you have come after me a bunch of BS in our core studies and didn't dive into controversial issues or topics. Sure we learned about some of them, but we breezed right over the hard truth. We didn't get the real story on a lot of it.

Read up on the Lyndon Johnson's Great Society, but more importantly look up "Warren Court" and study that. That might open your eyes as to why your vote Tuesday was so important.

Don't stop there.... I'd also study how Israel came to be, how Hilter came to power in a country where people were educated and obviously intelligent. I don't think anyone has ever accused the German's of being stupid. Look at what happened in the vacuums left behind when the European countries gave up their empires. Learn about the spread of communism and dictators and the back story that lead to the Vietnam war. Learn about Reaganomics. Learn about the movement to Globalization. This are the topics that will continue to impact our lives, not all the time we spent learning about Alexander the Great in class.

I've read the bible more times than I can count but I'm not much on religion. I've read the Quran. And why... because in order to have a discussion on it how could I regurgitate what I've been told about a religion. I had no first hand knowledge of what that book actually said. I'm not much on repeating what I have heard even if the preacher told me. I'm a man that forms my own opinion.

Matthew 7:7 - Ask, and it shall be given you: seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you.

Draw your own conclusion about how your world has been shaped. As for me... I've never voted for a Democrat in my life.







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Re: I still don't like trump... [Re: trlrdrdave] #1910268
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Originally Posted By: MorningAir
He was definitely the best choice, but I really worry that he might believe in the trickle down economics theory.

If he does believe that really works for the middle class, we are in big trouble in 4 years. Probably going to be in worse shape than we are now if that ends up being his strategy. I feel like he knows that can't be the sole strategy, so there is some hope.



Did you really say this? What liberal idjit you been listening too?


I don't know where the information was received, but it is misinformed. Trickle-down economics is just a political term. What it refers to is the non-linear Laffer curve that “proved” a correlation between taxes at different levels and taxable income/spending/marginal propensity to save. It can be implemented on supply side or demand side economics. Supply side being laissez faire in nature and demand side being more Keynesian in nature. Reagan’s “trickle-down economics” was supply side as it assumed that decreasing taxes would increase output and pump money into the economy, which it did. However, trickle-down economics is probably the worst and most destructive phase ever devised to describe a very plausible and successful economic theory. It was just a stupid phrase meant to hurt Reagan and tell the American people that growing government/raising taxes was the way to prosperity. Wealth that leads to a strong economy doesn’t trickle down or up or sideways. Wealth happens because people have the propensity/incentive to produce. Lower taxes and fewer regulations the democrats called trickle-down resulted in more opportunities to create and spend. But, nothing trickled down and people in this country benefited from wealthy people having more money to invest and spend.

Anyone who has a problem with that theory doesn’t understand economics.


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Re: I still don't like trump... [Re: Atoler] #1910282
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Re: I still don't like trump... [Re: Atoler] #1910284
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I agree with Atoler on one thing...the older generations screwed us with the kids they raised. Sadly those chickens are coming home to roost.

These kids are SO WEAK minded.

If you are a dad today, make it you TOP priority.

Re: I still don't like trump... [Re: Atoler] #1910286
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i think bush jr gave trickle down economics a bad name.


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Re: I still don't like trump... [Re: Atoler] #1910303
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Originally Posted By: Atoler
I held my nose and voted for him yesterday, but that hasn't changed my opinion of him based on his history. I think he is a very capable person, I'm simply not convinced of his intentions. I really hope that I'm wrong and most of you are right. We will have to wait and see on that end.

Either way, some of y'all need a reality check. I'm seeing all these claims of what he's going to do, what he will accomplish. Any real positive improvements will take multiple president's contributions. If he can get one or two policies implemented, he will be highly successful.


Not convinced of his intentions? Watch this,maybe it will help. he didn't do this out of ego, or because he wants to profit from it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?hl=mr&...ient=mv-google-

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Re: I still don't like trump... [Re: Atoler] #1910315
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Originally Posted By: Atoler
Originally Posted By: perchjerker
No little boy you need to grow up. You're 25 yrs old. You know nothing. Boo Hoo I feel your pain. The reality check is yours.


I've held my tongue with you because of your health. I've gone so far as to put you on ignore. Congratulations, you're the only one.

Your response, lacking in substance and personally attacking me, spells out the kind of person you are. Your posts constantly speak volumes about you. I had hoped that you simply were in so much pain that you have a chit attitude. I question that now.

Let me spell this out for you and outdoor obsession. People your age have frak-Ed our country. Your life experiences have taught both of you plenty, that I don't know. How to pick an elected official is not one of those things. You and the rest of baby boomers have an awful track record. All of the problems we face today, are your failures. Your generation has saddled me with an enormous weight on my back. Not only are the few tax payers my age loaded down with regulation, a shitty economy, and a massive tax load, we face a mountain of medical bills and social security checks that we will be responsible for. As your generation ages (I'm sure you are already taking advantage of it) our burden will increase, and as you all die off, we are left holding the bag. I'm not hopeful that my generation will do any better, but we are too screwed to start with, to ever know.

So, screw off with the age stuff. You've proven over your lifetimes that you don't know a damn thing about picking a president.

Agree with you Austin. Not saying we don't have a lot of dumbarses from our generation. But some of the older folks on here are from the same generation as John Kerry and all the other drug induced tree lovers from the 60s and 70s. Oh and the Clintons. The same people from that generation have been in power for 8 years and have only made this country go backwards. I'm not blaming anyone or wanting anything. I can and do make my own path through life. But the blame everything on folks 30 years old and younger, like some on here do, is foolish.. parents do make a difference is a kids life. Maybe the parents of the 20 year old protesters should have raised them better.

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