Captjab, respect is lost. I greet everyone with a certain level of respect and our interactions after that, determine whether my respect for them increases or decreases. OO and perch don't have mine at this point.

My post was simply pointing out the facts, of why I don't give a damn about perch's comments on my age. He is a miserable person, and finally got under my skin.

What j stated is factual. It is what it is, and I can point that out without blaming anyone. . We have been on a steady decline as a society since LBJ, both morally and economically. The economy is being held up by the Feds and has never hit bottom. It is built on a straw house and when it tumbles life will change as we know it. The moral decay is obvious. Both of these were on the steady decline well before Obama got in. He simply made it obvious enough for normal people to get riled up.

That is all true - and the ONLY person (other than Cruz or Carson) who can or could make ANY difference in the direction of this country is Mr. Donald Trump. And I am certain that only Trump could have pulled off a GOP victory.

I have to say this about your comment on Obama - he didn't just make the severe moral decay "more obvious" - he dramatically accelerated it with WIDE OPEN SATANIC radical Left culture war.

Now, imo, while Trump has a chance to dramatically change the direction of this country, in Biblical terms he can only forestall the inevitable devolution of America and the West. I hope it is a long, long forestalling.

We have to pray, pray pray for Trump and his Admin.

I prayed my butt off over this election, that the satanic Hillary would be defeated. Tens of millions also prayed that prayer.

Now, it is a matter that ALL OF US PUT MASSIVE PRESSURE on Trump **and** the Congress to do all of the things that Trump promised to do.

LOL..likewise Kid. Want some Cheese to go with your WHINE???

No..you were BLAMING our generation...and your facts werent facts..just your opinion.

I think myself and others have provided you with facts..but Im sure youll ignore them.

Dang Debbie Downer..calm down. Our side WON!

We are going to make America Great again..well hopefully at least slow down the slide into socialism.

And here is the problem with our generation. Sums it all up

"Respect" has been replaced with "expect" in this country.. no respect is given, they just expect it when nothing has been done to earn it, just like everything else.

I agree.Just because someone disagrees AND follows up with FACTS, not opinion on why they disagree doesn't warrant disrespect.There's alotta folks on here I don't agree with on multiple things but I still respect them and their opinion.

I think you've pretty much nailed it with this wm.

Seems we are actually on the same base then. My respect for someone doesn't diminish because they have a different opinion than me, it diminishes when they start calling names and ranting because I have a well Informed opinion, that is slightly different than theirs. When that happens over and over, through a variety of subjects, it erodes.

It'd be nice if the world was as black and white as you seem to think it is.

Watch the news or keep up with current events lately?? It couldnt be anymore black and white

Sorry, but Grandpa was slightly incorrect. A young man will hurt you, an old man will kill you. I can name several instances off the top of my head that this was true in my career. An old man don't care anymore about his future.

I agree with this completely. I'm 25, and cannot stand a SINGLE PERSON that I know that's my age. I hate being put into this age group, because if I had it my way, I personally whip everyone of their asses. I voted for trump, so did the wife. I actually witnessed to several people that I saw in the polling station that were my age, trying to get them to see the light. I've been behind trump since he was nominated, and will continue to be.


And another thing. I'm getting pretty damn sick of all this negitive crap all over this site. It's getting pretty old clicking on things and seeing people bash other folks on here that is not called for. You people need to think before you type. Have some respect for folks. You bitch about the way this country is and all its problems, and come on this site to do the exact same crap that you're bitching about. The crap needs to stop now. I think for some folks it's physically impossible for them not to be an asshole and selfish.

Black,white,purple,or brown i dont give a rats azz what color scheme you choose. Respect is respect. I dont get along with alot of folks but i respect them and they respesct me old or young. I respect peoples opinions even if i dont like it, its theirs to have along with me to have one as well. I respect them enough not to shove my opinion down there throat because we didnt see eye to eye. I dont go blame baby boomers which alot of them are probally vietnam vets, for my hard ship or the way the economy is. I deal with what I'm dealt and if i didnt like the cards i was dealt that day I do what i can to fix it for the next time,not point fingers or wait for someone else to fix it for me. I dont cry about it ,whine about it. In the end opinions are like azzholes everybody's got one and they all stink

You don't have a right to the cards you believe you should have been dealt. You have an obligation to play the hell out of the ones your holding.

A. You're full of it, if you say you have the same level of respect for everyone. You don't, I don't, not a person on this earth does. Extreme examples, Hillary, Ted bundee, Bruce/Caitlin...

B. Somehow you and others are under the impression I'm whining about the circumstances that you and I will be left with. I'm not. Those circumstances are fact. Neither you nor I created them, but we will live with them.

C. I made a statement about having some reservations, was attacked for having reservations, and told that I didn't know crap because I'm 25 years old. I then presented my thought process on why I don't particularly give a damn about what they have learned over a life time of voting. i worded it specifically the way I did, because they chose to attack me personally instead of disagreeing and presenting some rebuff in a factual-logical manner.

D. My lack of respect for someone doesn't come from having a difference of opinion. I respect the hell out of quite a few people who are on the trump train. My lack of respect comes from the way they interact with me and others. If you cannot disagree with someone without name calling, etc, that sure doesn't elevate you in my eyes. Certainly not when it happens time and time again.

I agree.

"A gentle answer turns away wrath, but a harsh word stirs up anger." PROVERBS 15:1 (NASB)

Believe we would all do well to remember this. We all have knowledge, but wisdom is how we use it. None of us know what Trump will do. We can pray for him and the folks he surrounds himself with. Even though the Republicans have control of the Presidency, the Senate and the House, we all also know that a lot of those are RINO's, and who knows, Trump may be one himself. I believe this is why many of us had reservations about voting for him. The positive for him was that we all knew what Hillary would do to us.

The bible speaks of older men teaching younger men. It also says to not let one's youth fool you. Old men can be dumb and young men can be very smart (even wise; I know a few). I've seen both and I fall probably somewhere in the middle.

If respect is shown on both sides, we can agree to disagree and not have to ignore anyone. There will always be those that like to stir the pot. Heck, truth be known, we all like to stir it at times. One of the warnings for newbies on here is to have thick skin. When folks disagree with you or have a differing opinion, sometimes it's just better to move on (of course, then the rest of us lose a chance of some good entertainment). As the lead penguin in the movie "Madagascar" would say, "Just smile and wave boys, just smile and wave."

From my perspective, I believe we all are to hold some blame for where we are at as a nation. When this nation was at it's greatest point (probably a few years before WW II), the people worked hard and had character and integrity. They had to work hard because the country was recovering from a terrible depression. They worshipped and gave God the glory for the things they were blessed with. Many didn't have much, but they weren't whiners. They hung in there and when the need arose to have men & women defend our country and its Constitution, they were willing to step up. After WWII, and for several years, the USA enjoyed prosperity. Prosperity went too far (as it does most times. Look at what happened to the children of Israel each time they would become prosperous and stray from the One True God)and people began to become more enthralled with entertainment and having stuff. Each generation wanted the next to be better off and truly be able to experience the American dream. Problem is, they began forgetting God and history. People stepped aside and let schools take over teaching their kids and many never checked up on what their kids were being taught. Television became a babysitter. Folks became intrigued with all the stuff they could have; most want the best for their family, but when you sacrifice your family to have it, what's it really worth? It's only gotten worse through the years and even though there were some more difficult times (70's) and some prosperous times (some of the 80's and early 90's), morals and values began to decline sharply (of course a lot got started in he 60's). One of the big problems was/is that so many people are willing to go into major debt to have the stuff that they thought would make them happy. Maybe they were just playing off the government. The country is now $20 trillion + in debt. I have no idea of how much debt the average family now carries overall, but that along with government handouts, billions of dollars going to rogue, enemy nations, and the cost of living rising sharply (a lot just on insurance premiums), companies cutting back and laying people off, and if there is a pay raise they're generally small and do not meet the rising cost of living. This is where our world is at presently. And yet, entertainment still has a hold on us, and not only secularly, but that's what many folks want out of church (a time when we should be worshipping the Almighty God, the only one who can save us from ourselves).

Folks, this is a great forum and I believe most of us are very like-minded. We're a group (one of many)that would like to see America become great again; but we can't depend on others to make that happen for us. We have to care and we have to take the lead that God assigned to us as men. Us older men have to teach the young men (don't assume someone else will do it), especially our own sons (I only have a daughter, but I've tried to spend as much time with her as possible teaching and paying attention to what she has been taught by others). I do have nephews that I've tried to be an example for as they're growing into young men. Let's get to work guys!

EXCELLENT quote!

I don't believe that 8 years of Obama was a generational faux pas...I believe the generational faux pas is, like Obama, a symptom of a different issue, that someone brought up earlier...parenting. family. values. ethics....these things stopped being taught, therefore they stopped being learned.

I voted against the downward spiral this country is in 2 weeks before the election. Tuesday, my father and my youngest son also voted, and voted the same way I did. That's representatives of 3 generations who each struck their blow for a better America. My youngest, voting for the first time ever in this election, has no idea what "parenting" means, and he's still learning and feeling his way with the other things...Anybody that knows him will tell you in no uncertain terms that "vote for this guy because I'm voting for him" just flat wouldn't hold water with him. He's VERY much his own person with his own brain, and while there are things to come for him that he's too young to understand, yet, he's obviously able to recognize the fundamental difference between left and right, good and evil, constructive and destructive.

My father, myself, and my son all had a distinct advantage over many...we were all taught those things from early on; parenting. family. values. ethics.

I was hoping the whineing would end, but no chance. Its not a generation issue. Many great Americans have fought and died before they saw 30. Many young guys are serving now. My issue is many are spoiled. My generation grew up working as kids when we wanted something. Cutting grass, raking leaves,collecting soda bottles , saving for the things we wanted . When we were old enough 16 we got jobs bagging groceries, delivering things, working in hospitals and hotels. Then my generation had kids, they wanted to give them everything. The result is spoiled whine brats. Of course its normal to want the best for your kids, but it must be sensible. They grow up expecting everything THEIR way, or for free. There are no perfect candidates. No sane person would expose their family to the constant attacks by the lying Democrates. The last time Obama ran, HERMAN CANE was the man I wanted. He ran early, but dropped out because of the personal attacks. they were too much for his wife and family.
A good man ended his chance to be President. Fast forward to TRUMP . He got the same attacks, he never flinched. The attacks got stronger and more women appeared. Now that its over, the women have disappeared. Really ? You wait 20 some odd years and only speak up now? Why would you do that ? CASH thats right.
I am grateful President TRUMP was strong and his family too.
I think he will be a good President. Time will tell. All the whining shuld be over but its not. Its sickening because its going on both sides. Truymp did what he had to taday to try and have a smooth transition. I hope he ask Obama to drop the pardon Hillary crap and worry about his self. Obama was part of the Benghazi arms deal behind Congress. His butt is in jeopardy now and he knows it. I don't know if he can pardon himself. The point is before the election this borad was consumed by negitive crao. He has won many you were WRONG ! Give the man a chance to MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN ! God Bless America !
Now get off your butts and get a cancer screen !!!

Here we go, the nay sayers are out there. The man hasn't been elected for two days and here they are on the ALDEER. It's all over the radio and TV. Give them hell Trump!