Same mentality as refusing to vote for anyone who isn't a democrat or republican. If you keep doing the same things you WILL get the same results. If 80% of the 2 1/2 half year olds lived to be 4 1/2 years old ,instead of the maybe 10% we have now we would have LOTS of big bucks.Can you imagine what the hunting would be like here if there were 8 times as many 4 1/2 year old bucks? Maybe not as many 170's as IOWA but plenty of 140 class deer. I will never understand killing a spike or 4 point when you can legally kill a doe? Yet some people kill several every year, yes they don't report them,haha. Talked to someone just this week who killed a spike and a little 5 point in the same day and reported them both as does on different days.