I did not say anything about doe seasons.

On populations, see for yourself ->

http://www.northamericanwhitetail.com/trophy-bucks/20-best-whitetail-states-for-2015/

https://www.nwtf.org/hunt/article/2016-spring-hunt-guide

I did say that...and mostly I (still) am. Oddly enough, I finally got my wife to eat it now, so we've kept two does this year. First two deer we've kept to eat in 22 years of marriage. I always gave them to folks I knew, or my local processor has a donation "feeding the hungry" type program I would give them to.

Just me personally, for BUCKS, if I ain't gonna mount it, I ain't gonna kill it. And nowadays that's gonna have to be a better than average buck. That wasn't my self-imposed rule for most of my years, but it's just where I am today. And again, I don't expect others to be that way, but I sorta have that rule because of the following reasons:
1. Just ain't that fun to kill. I've killed lots of em.
2. It's a waste. All I'd do is saw the horns off and throw em in the shed.
3. Whether it's true or not, I "assume" a doe is better eating. So if I want meat, I shoot a doe. And like you asked, I didn't really even shoot deer to eat until this season.

Ok. I you did not differentiate buck or doe when you mentioned we always had liberal limits so I thought you meant both my bad. As far as those herd population estimates the State gives out I really would like to know how they count all the live deer and turkeys in this State heck we can't even get all the dead ones counted lol.

Careful, I got corrected on here for saying ALFA had something to do with that

Seriously.... I'm discussing the merits of Game Check and deer management with folks who think insurance companies influence deer regulations. Like I told you before, I have never in 16 years heard one single breath of such silliness. And in the scheme of claims costs, deer don't even blip the radar screen.

A thread like this sorta evidences the problem with something like Game Check and/or any other regulating measure...

You have every kind of personality and skill level from A-to-Z, and trying to satisfy all of them is impossible. You state a fact, some hate it. You state an opinion, some hate it. Really doesn't matter if it's right or wrong. One hunter is a novice on some crappy public land. One hunter is seasoned and accomplished and has a very expensive private lease filled with deer. Those two guys won't easily agree about much, but the DCNR has to govern both.

I've said forever, until we have the ability to set regulations at a more local level (maybe by county), we have no choice but to govern in the middle. Can't work for everybody.

that is because you are what you think everyone else is, folks posted links and comments and you ignored them because it proved that you didn't know as much as you think you did

I dont no why but my whole life deer hunting has always sucked in Geneva county. You can lease 500 acres of Rover bottom and see three fresh tracks a day.

Some of it comes down to views concerning hunting, you think hunters are the problem and I think the system is. You denigrate those who are not trophy hunters, call them "if it's brown its down " bunch, and put them below you but personally I believe those with your view on hunting is a greater danger to the future of hunting than the brown its down group.

As someone who has monitored a lot of different survey data through the years, and as someone who understands response rates and how data should be gathered from a mandatory program, ... that number indicates total failure of the data collection instrument. For a mandatory legal survey instrument that number should be in 65-75% range to be considered marginally successful.

Thats why its best to leave seasons as liberal as possible to give the individual as much liberty to make their own decisions as possible, especially on their own property. That way every one can make what decisions they deem best. Thats what you and others that are like minded don't want though. You want to force your "mindset" of what hunting should be upon others through legislation or whatever means it takes. Of course as you've said the problem is the hunters who don't have your mentality.

I know Geneva has more deer now, but back in 70's-early 80's, I lived on the Geneva/Coffee County line. I hunted the land all around our place, and just seeing a deer track was exciting. I grew up hunting rabbit, squirrel, dove and quail, because that was all we had at the time.

My dad will see some deer around there some, but it still isn't loaded with them to my knowledge.