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Re: if the state did limit doe harvest?
[Re: hunterbuck]
#1947205
12/09/16 03:24 AM
12/09/16 03:24 AM
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toothdoc
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10 years ago you could hunt all season on our place and maybe no see a deer. We went with a strict zero doe policy. Even with tons of coyote and bobcat we have seen a huge increase in numbers. I see at least 10 every time I sit in the woods. We should now be able to shoot the occasional doe for the freezer, but I'm not the club president and don't make the rules. Laying off on the does for a while has certainly seemed to help our population though. That's a great individual club policy, but most folks here want it to control what their neighbors do. Yes, I'm one of those people. We all share the same deer heard though different property lines. People have proven throughout history that they can't show self control. We always have to wipe out a population. I'm in favor of a tag system. I fish a lot in Louisiana and I worry that these guys bringing in literally coolers full of fish every day to "limit out" are going to decimate that fishery.
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Re: if the state did limit doe harvest?
[Re: R_H_Clark]
#1947233
12/09/16 03:47 AM
12/09/16 03:47 AM
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hunterbuck
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Too many people want to make sure they control everyone else.The problem is that you think your neighbor is killing your deer. I've got news for you. They ain't your deer! +1000
"You think I care? Roll Damn Tide"
Have you tried Google?
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Re: if the state did limit doe harvest?
[Re: R_H_Clark]
#1947267
12/09/16 04:10 AM
12/09/16 04:10 AM
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Posts: 38,489 N. Bama
257wbymag
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Too many people want to make sure they control everyone else.The problem is that you think your neighbor is killing your deer. I've got news for you. They ain't your deer! Bullschit they are when they're inside the big pen
Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias
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Re: if the state did limit doe harvest?
[Re: 257wbymag]
#1947278
12/09/16 04:17 AM
12/09/16 04:17 AM
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Posts: 9,536 B'ham
Goatkiller
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That's not realistic. People can't self manage themselves. That's like saying we don't need a speed limit because everyone will just drive a safe speed.
The problem with no rules is that while one property might be ok and have lots of deer, another 2 miles away has got a pack of doe killing neighbors that shoot on sight.... so there are hardly any deer and that group can do nothing about it.
That's the reality of our current situation. I can assure you if you actually hunted a place where the neighbors sat on your property line and shot every deer they saw while you worked your rear off to try and have a nice place to hunt.... your opinion would change. Not the neighbors deer either.
No government employees were harmed in the making of this mess.
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Re: if the state did limit doe harvest?
[Re: hunterbuck]
#1947290
12/09/16 04:25 AM
12/09/16 04:25 AM
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Posts: 14,751 Clanton
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Too many people want to make sure they control everyone else.The problem is that you think your neighbor is killing your deer. I've got news for you. They ain't your deer! +1000 Here's my problem with that statement. I manage my 40 acres for deer and turkeys. Summer and winter plots, fertilize browse, burn and supplemental feed. I have a lot of smaller acreage neighbors too that do nothing but put out a feeder and will shoot whatever walks by. I'm doing my part and my property and population has dramatically increased. It doesn't take long for small land holders to wipe out a deer population if they all shoot 3-4 does a year. I have been in a club with 5,000 acres that had all but wiped out the deer on the property and several other people on here can vouch for that as well. It's not to control the ones who actually have self control and want to do what's best for the herd. But the ones who don't give a damn and kill everything that walks by need to be regulated.
Would walk over a naked woman to get to a gobblin turkey!
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Re: if the state did limit doe harvest?
[Re: MC21]
#1947296
12/09/16 04:29 AM
12/09/16 04:29 AM
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Posts: 5,280 Your Lock-on
Whild_Bill
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We dont shoot many does in our club. Our internal rule is one per member.
We Just Know What Works For Us
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Re: if the state did limit doe harvest?
[Re: Turkey_neck]
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12/09/16 04:55 AM
12/09/16 04:55 AM
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Reloader79
Bitch Peas, I'm a Kitty Whisperer
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Too many people want to make sure they control everyone else.The problem is that you think your neighbor is killing your deer. I've got news for you. They ain't your deer! +1000 Here's my problem with that statement. I manage my 40 acres for deer and turkeys. Summer and winter plots, fertilize browse, burn and supplemental feed. I have a lot of smaller acreage neighbors too that do nothing but put out a feeder and will shoot whatever walks by. I'm doing my part and my property and population has dramatically increased. It doesn't take long for small land holders to wipe out a deer population if they all shoot 3-4 does a year. I have been in a club with 5,000 acres that had all but wiped out the deer on the property and several other people on here can vouch for that as well. It's not to control the ones who actually have self control and want to do what's best for the herd. But the ones who don't give a damn and kill everything that walks by need to be regulated. You manage 40 acres, now that's a helluva management you got goin there.
If I agreed with you, we'd both be wrong.
Bluetick serpentines around green fields and rock spit a lease
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Re: if the state did limit doe harvest?
[Re: MC21]
#1947330
12/09/16 05:02 AM
12/09/16 05:02 AM
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Posts: 35,936 Boxes Cove
2Dogs
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The state does limit doe harvest , you can't kill all you want year around.
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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Re: if the state did limit doe harvest?
[Re: Reloader79]
#1947331
12/09/16 05:03 AM
12/09/16 05:03 AM
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Posts: 7,780 central ala,
centralala
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Too many people want to make sure they control everyone else.The problem is that you think your neighbor is killing your deer. I've got news for you. They ain't your deer! +1000 Here's my problem with that statement. I manage my 40 acres for deer and turkeys. Summer and winter plots, fertilize browse, burn and supplemental feed. I have a lot of smaller acreage neighbors too that do nothing but put out a feeder and will shoot whatever walks by. I'm doing my part and my property and population has dramatically increased. It doesn't take long for small land holders to wipe out a deer population if they all shoot 3-4 does a year. I have been in a club with 5,000 acres that had all but wiped out the deer on the property and several other people on here can vouch for that as well. It's not to control the ones who actually have self control and want to do what's best for the herd. But the ones who don't give a damn and kill everything that walks by need to be regulated. You manage 40 acres, now that's a helluva management you got goin there. I am pretty sure he owns that 40 acres. There is a tremendous amount can be done on small properties that can be productive. I have found sometimes hunting 40 acres by yourself can be better than hunting 1000 acres with 5 people. Also, people that own the property tend to spend more time and money to improve the health of the game within their limits. He will be more proud of a deer taken here. The bottom line is it's his, he's proud of that as he should be, and he can pass it on. Small properties are the future in Alabama and he will be ahead.
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Re: if the state did limit doe harvest?
[Re: Turkey_neck]
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12/09/16 05:03 AM
12/09/16 05:03 AM
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Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 14,012 AL
hunterbuck
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Too many people want to make sure they control everyone else.The problem is that you think your neighbor is killing your deer. I've got news for you. They ain't your deer! +1000 Here's my problem with that statement. I manage my 40 acres for deer and turkeys. Summer and winter plots, fertilize browse, burn and supplemental feed. I have a lot of smaller acreage neighbors too that do nothing but put out a feeder and will shoot whatever walks by. I'm doing my part and my property and population has dramatically increased. It doesn't take long for small land holders to wipe out a deer population if they all shoot 3-4 does a year. I have been in a club with 5,000 acres that had all but wiped out the deer on the property and several other people on here can vouch for that as well. It's not to control the ones who actually have self control and want to do what's best for the herd. But the ones who don't give a damn and kill everything that walks by need to be regulated. Yet, you want an entire statewide limit based on what your whole 40 acres contains? Got it.
"You think I care? Roll Damn Tide"
Have you tried Google?
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Re: if the state did limit doe harvest?
[Re: centralala]
#1947339
12/09/16 05:08 AM
12/09/16 05:08 AM
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Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 14,012 AL
hunterbuck
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Booner
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Too many people want to make sure they control everyone else.The problem is that you think your neighbor is killing your deer. I've got news for you. They ain't your deer! +1000 Here's my problem with that statement. I manage my 40 acres for deer and turkeys. Summer and winter plots, fertilize browse, burn and supplemental feed. I have a lot of smaller acreage neighbors too that do nothing but put out a feeder and will shoot whatever walks by. I'm doing my part and my property and population has dramatically increased. It doesn't take long for small land holders to wipe out a deer population if they all shoot 3-4 does a year. I have been in a club with 5,000 acres that had all but wiped out the deer on the property and several other people on here can vouch for that as well. It's not to control the ones who actually have self control and want to do what's best for the herd. But the ones who don't give a damn and kill everything that walks by need to be regulated. You manage 40 acres, now that's a helluva management you got goin there. I am pretty sure he owns that 40 acres. There is a tremendous amount can be done on small properties that can be productive. I have found sometimes hunting 40 acres by yourself can be better than hunting 1000 acres with 5 people. Also, people that own the property tend to spend more time and money to improve the health of the game within their limits. He will be more proud of a deer taken here. The bottom line is it's his, he's proud of that as he should be, and he can pass it on. Small properties are the future in Alabama and he will be ahead. I get all that, but you can't base an entire state's management program on what someone sees or doesn't see on their 40, or 80, or 120, etc acres.
"You think I care? Roll Damn Tide"
Have you tried Google?
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Re: if the state did limit doe harvest?
[Re: hunterbuck]
#1947345
12/09/16 05:16 AM
12/09/16 05:16 AM
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Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 7,780 central ala,
centralala
14 point
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14 point
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Posts: 7,780
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Too many people want to make sure they control everyone else.The problem is that you think your neighbor is killing your deer. I've got news for you. They ain't your deer! +1000 Here's my problem with that statement. I manage my 40 acres for deer and turkeys. Summer and winter plots, fertilize browse, burn and supplemental feed. I have a lot of smaller acreage neighbors too that do nothing but put out a feeder and will shoot whatever walks by. I'm doing my part and my property and population has dramatically increased. It doesn't take long for small land holders to wipe out a deer population if they all shoot 3-4 does a year. I have been in a club with 5,000 acres that had all but wiped out the deer on the property and several other people on here can vouch for that as well. It's not to control the ones who actually have self control and want to do what's best for the herd. But the ones who don't give a damn and kill everything that walks by need to be regulated. You manage 40 acres, now that's a helluva management you got goin there. I am pretty sure he owns that 40 acres. There is a tremendous amount can be done on small properties that can be productive. I have found sometimes hunting 40 acres by yourself can be better than hunting 1000 acres with 5 people. Also, people that own the property tend to spend more time and money to improve the health of the game within their limits. He will be more proud of a deer taken here. The bottom line is it's his, he's proud of that as he should be, and he can pass it on. Small properties are the future in Alabama and he will be ahead. I get all that, but you can't base an entire state's management program on what someone sees or doesn't see on their 40, or 80, or 120, etc acres. My point was off subject. Wasn't about limits, I usually don't get into the limit discussions because there is no right or wrong answer. I'm just a big proponent of everyone owning their own land and getting full enjoyment from it regardless of acerage.
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Re: if the state did limit doe harvest?
[Re: MC21]
#1947347
12/09/16 05:19 AM
12/09/16 05:19 AM
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Posts: 38,489 N. Bama
257wbymag
Boo Boo Head
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I'll put my little 40 acre tract up against any larger property around me.
Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias
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