This entire thread 100% proves my point I made earlier. I clearly stated that I would get reamed out for saying Alabamians are NOT quality management minded. I think my exact words were something like "if it's legal, then blah blah blah". And 575 dozen of y'all said it. I cannot understand this subconscious association with hunting regulations stealing your fun???? I am not a trophy-score hunter, heck I hunt local WMAs very often!!!! The whole "new hunter" argument is a straw man too. Nobody is deer shaming, we've all done it. I still kill does, always will. I guess the word I'm looking for is "discriminating". I am discriminate, with herd management in mind, when I kill ANY deer. And I don't think it's unreasonable to train children and new hunters to be this way--THEY ARE IN THOSE "TROPHY" STATES WE ARE JEALOUS OF. We aren't trying to grown genetically giant deer like Iowa, but we could substantially improve our herd and hunting experience in Alvabama with some modern mentality!