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Re: Game Check road block [Re: extreme heights hunter] #1949985
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Originally Posted By: extreme heights hunter
I have blood in the bed of my truck right now but I ain't shot a deer this season. Wonder how that one would end up


Well, if your wife has been missing for 2 weeks, there is going to be a LOT of questions! grin

Re: Game Check road block [Re: jmj120] #1950231
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Talked to an Attorney this morning at church. He made lots of interesting points, too many to type. The basic point is it's kinda senseless, as really all they can check for are too many deer in possession and harvest record not completed. Seems like a waste of State money, especially when another guy chimed in that a known outlaw up here has been shooting hawks for two weeks and the GW basically blew him off when he reported it. I just don't understand the end game here. I'm beginning to think they want to make it some complicated that folks will just go to the hunting preserves and pay to hunt. I understand that's Chuck's background.

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Well if people weren't on here and every other site telling how they are not going to follow the regulations they probably wouldn't be doing this kind of thing. Everyone wants to be an internet hero and claim they ain't following no stinking regulations no matter what. Do people really think officials don't see this? Everyone says they can't enforce it anyway but they can if they really want to and are proving it I guess. If I were to be one to break laws which in am not I dang sure wouldn't be posting all over the internet.


You may be addressing me, maybe not. I have a harvest record and a pen in my backpack. Sometime on a quick sit, I only grab my binoculars. It's more of me knowing I'm going to forget it, than just trying to break the law. Take this example. Me and my brother own some land. If I go up there just to walk during deer season, just to get out, I'm wearing jeans and a shirt, just walking. Now, if I grab a gun (in case I see a coyote, record deer, sasquatch, or just want to shoot, I have to have 144 square inches of blaze orange, a harvest record, and a pen. It's just stupid in my opinion.

Re: Game Check road block [Re: timbercruiser] #1950246
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Originally Posted By: timbercruiser
I've known of log trucks that were weighed with those small portable scales right outside of the mill that got tickets for being overweight that then went inside the gate and were weighed on the state certified whole truck scales and were 100% within the weight limitations. Carry it to court and you will lose tho.


ours were also certified on a regular basis by the same dept that certified the mill scales, but I will say if a mill scales showed legal and our were over and it went to court the mill scales won the battle, we always lost to a permanent certified scale.

and yes a well built trailer but it took it a country mile to stop and that driver was so glad he got stopped and forced his boss to unload the trailer. That was many moons ago but remember that incident like it was yesterday.

Re: Game Check road block [Re: jmj120] #1950285
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Originally Posted By: jmj120
Originally Posted By: bigt
Well if people weren't on here and every other site telling how they are not going to follow the regulations they probably wouldn't be doing this kind of thing. Everyone wants to be an internet hero and claim they ain't following no stinking regulations no matter what. Do people really think officials don't see this? Everyone says they can't enforce it anyway but they can if they really want to and are proving it I guess. If I were to be one to break laws which in am not I dang sure wouldn't be posting all over the internet.


You may be addressing me, maybe not. I have a harvest record and a pen in my backpack. Sometime on a quick sit, I only grab my binoculars. It's more of me knowing I'm going to forget it, than just trying to break the law. Take this example. Me and my brother own some land. If I go up there just to walk during deer season, just to get out, I'm wearing jeans and a shirt, just walking. Now, if I grab a gun (in case I see a coyote, record deer, sasquatch, or just want to shoot, I have to have 144 square inches of blaze orange, a harvest record, and a pen. It's just stupid in my opinion.

I wasn't addressing anyone in particular and don't remember you outright saying you weren't going to check in a deer. I was referring to the many that have flat out stated no matter what they weren't going to do it. I understand people forgetting stuff especially as new as this stuff is and that's definitely not what I am referring to.


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Re: Game Check road block [Re: bigt] #1950381
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Originally Posted By: bigt
Originally Posted By: jmj120
Originally Posted By: bigt
Well if people weren't on here and every other site telling how they are not going to follow the regulations they probably wouldn't be doing this kind of thing. Everyone wants to be an internet hero and claim they ain't following no stinking regulations no matter what. Do people really think officials don't see this? Everyone says they can't enforce it anyway but they can if they really want to and are proving it I guess. If I were to be one to break laws which in am not I dang sure wouldn't be posting all over the internet.


You may be addressing me, maybe not. I have a harvest record and a pen in my backpack. Sometime on a quick sit, I only grab my binoculars. It's more of me knowing I'm going to forget it, than just trying to break the law. Take this example. Me and my brother own some land. If I go up there just to walk during deer season, just to get out, I'm wearing jeans and a shirt, just walking. Now, if I grab a gun (in case I see a coyote, record deer, sasquatch, or just want to shoot, I have to have 144 square inches of blaze orange, a harvest record, and a pen. It's just stupid in my opinion.

I wasn't addressing anyone in particular and don't remember you outright saying you weren't going to check in a deer. I was referring to the many that have flat out stated no matter what they weren't going to do it. I understand people forgetting stuff especially as new as this stuff is and that's definitely not what I am referring to.


Bigt may have been referring to me. I'm not going to do anything to help promote the crooked ass bunch making decisions agenda. I hope the whole game check BS is a failure (it's right on track), and we can replace chuck and the rest of those politicians and lobbyists making decisions affecting hunters.

Re: Game Check road block [Re: crenshawco] #1950384
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Originally Posted By: crenshawco
Originally Posted By: bigt
Originally Posted By: jmj120
Originally Posted By: bigt
Well if people weren't on here and every other site telling how they are not going to follow the regulations they probably wouldn't be doing this kind of thing. Everyone wants to be an internet hero and claim they ain't following no stinking regulations no matter what. Do people really think officials don't see this? Everyone says they can't enforce it anyway but they can if they really want to and are proving it I guess. If I were to be one to break laws which in am not I dang sure wouldn't be posting all over the internet.


You may be addressing me, maybe not. I have a harvest record and a pen in my backpack. Sometime on a quick sit, I only grab my binoculars. It's more of me knowing I'm going to forget it, than just trying to break the law. Take this example. Me and my brother own some land. If I go up there just to walk during deer season, just to get out, I'm wearing jeans and a shirt, just walking. Now, if I grab a gun (in case I see a coyote, record deer, sasquatch, or just want to shoot, I have to have 144 square inches of blaze orange, a harvest record, and a pen. It's just stupid in my opinion.

I wasn't addressing anyone in particular and don't remember you outright saying you weren't going to check in a deer. I was referring to the many that have flat out stated no matter what they weren't going to do it. I understand people forgetting stuff especially as new as this stuff is and that's definitely not what I am referring to.


Bigt may have been referring to me. I'm not going to do anything to help promote the crooked ass bunch making decisions agenda. I hope the whole game check BS is a failure (it's right on track), and we can replace chuck and the rest of those politicians and lobbyists making decisions affecting hunters.

I agree with you

Re: Game Check road block [Re: crenshawco] #1950570
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Originally Posted By: crenshawco
Originally Posted By: bigt
Originally Posted By: jmj120
Originally Posted By: bigt
Well if people weren't on here and every other site telling how they are not going to follow the regulations they probably wouldn't be doing this kind of thing. Everyone wants to be an internet hero and claim they ain't following no stinking regulations no matter what. Do people really think officials don't see this? Everyone says they can't enforce it anyway but they can if they really want to and are proving it I guess. If I were to be one to break laws which in am not I dang sure wouldn't be posting all over the internet.


You may be addressing me, maybe not. I have a harvest record and a pen in my backpack. Sometime on a quick sit, I only grab my binoculars. It's more of me knowing I'm going to forget it, than just trying to break the law. Take this example. Me and my brother own some land. If I go up there just to walk during deer season, just to get out, I'm wearing jeans and a shirt, just walking. Now, if I grab a gun (in case I see a coyote, record deer, sasquatch, or just want to shoot, I have to have 144 square inches of blaze orange, a harvest record, and a pen. It's just stupid in my opinion.

I wasn't addressing anyone in particular and don't remember you outright saying you weren't going to check in a deer. I was referring to the many that have flat out stated no matter what they weren't going to do it. I understand people forgetting stuff especially as new as this stuff is and that's definitely not what I am referring to.


Bigt may have been referring to me. I'm not going to do anything to help promote the crooked ass bunch making decisions agenda. I hope the whole game check BS is a failure (it's right on track), and we can replace chuck and the rest of those politicians and lobbyists making decisions affecting hunters.


Just asking, do you know something we don't about GC being a failure " it's right on track"?

Re: Game Check road block [Re: jmj120] #1950574
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I'll borrow this quote from Skinny. He's much more of an authority than I am on statistics and data gathering.

Originally Posted By: Skinny

Originally Posted By: Skinny
Originally Posted By: ElkHunter
[quote=AU7MM08]What percentage of deer taken this year have been reported on game check?
60%?


Assuming deer are being killed at the same rate as last year, the Game Check registration rate is only 24.6% as of today.


As someone who has monitored a lot of different survey data through the years, and as someone who understands response rates and how data should be gathered from a mandatory program, ... that number indicates total failure of the data collection instrument. For a mandatory legal survey instrument that number should be in 65-75% range to be considered marginally successful.

Re: Game Check road block [Re: capehorn24] #1950657
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Originally Posted By: capehorn24
Originally Posted By: crenshawco
Originally Posted By: bigt
Originally Posted By: jmj120
Originally Posted By: bigt
Well if people weren't on here and every other site telling how they are not going to follow the regulations they probably wouldn't be doing this kind of thing. Everyone wants to be an internet hero and claim they ain't following no stinking regulations no matter what. Do people really think officials don't see this? Everyone says they can't enforce it anyway but they can if they really want to and are proving it I guess. If I were to be one to break laws which in am not I dang sure wouldn't be posting all over the internet.


You may be addressing me, maybe not. I have a harvest record and a pen in my backpack. Sometime on a quick sit, I only grab my binoculars. It's more of me knowing I'm going to forget it, than just trying to break the law. Take this example. Me and my brother own some land. If I go up there just to walk during deer season, just to get out, I'm wearing jeans and a shirt, just walking. Now, if I grab a gun (in case I see a coyote, record deer, sasquatch, or just want to shoot, I have to have 144 square inches of blaze orange, a harvest record, and a pen. It's just stupid in my opinion.

I wasn't addressing anyone in particular and don't remember you outright saying you weren't going to check in a deer. I was referring to the many that have flat out stated no matter what they weren't going to do it. I understand people forgetting stuff especially as new as this stuff is and that's definitely not what I am referring to.


Bigt may have been referring to me. I'm not going to do anything to help promote the crooked ass bunch making decisions agenda. I hope the whole game check BS is a failure (it's right on track), and we can replace chuck and the rest of those politicians and lobbyists making decisions affecting hunters.


Just asking, do you know something we don't about GC being a failure " it's right on track"?


Before I will call it a failure, I'd like to know what the objective is. There's an old saying "follow the money". I think time will tell unless the new Governor throws Chukie out on his arse.

Re: Game Check road block [Re: crenshawco] #1950686
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I hope the whole game check BS is a failure (it's right on track), and we can replace chuck and the rest of those politicians and lobbyists making decisions affecting hunters.


Directors and appointees will come and go, but GameCheck is here to stay. They and many hunters have wanted it for years. The behind-the-scenes power brokers have wanted it for years. Other states have it and now they're not "one of the only three without it" as has been for years.

It's here to stay. Like taxes and herpes, it won't ever go away.


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Re: Game Check road block [Re: hayman] #1950813
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I guess that you have to have a hunting license to ride a 4 wheeler now. What a joke! I guess to them it beats walking the woods and looking for corn piles.

Re: Game Check road block [Re: jmj120] #1950825
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This is giving me flashbacks. I went through the same road block in the same location on the last weekend of season last year. It was around 6 or 7 p.m. There were Game wardens from multiple counties at the roadblock. They were questioning everyone who looked to be hunters. My dad was driving the truck and in street clothes, they gave him a warning for hunting without a license (he wasn't hunting, and when he does hunt it is on his own private land), gave me a ticket for hunting without a license and no harvest record ( i had killed a buck and a doe and had no harvest record so i was in violation of that one). The other person with us had a buck and a doe and got a ticket for no harvest record as well. After an hour on the side of the road waiting for our tickets we finally were released and barely made it to shanas processor in time.

After multiple calls with game warden office, head of game wardens, macon county court etc. i never got any info on how much the ticket would be. I tried to go in advance to show my license that i did not have with me that night because i was not hunting, i was just riding in a truck to a processor and then back to camp for the night. They said i had to go before the judge for the no license issue. So i go to my court date which is full of people in similar situations and 2 game wardens. I go before the judge and apparently my no license ticket was already thrown out and no one had informed me. This made the court date a waste of time since the license ticket was the only reason i went to the court date. And when i attempted to show my license and pay in advance of course no help was given. So I paid my court costs and harvest record ticket and was done with it.

Even better, my buddy who was in the truck that got a harvest record ticket went ahead and paid his in advance since it was only the harvest record ticket, the macon county courts screwed that up and listed him as a failure to appear in court. Luckily for him i was in court that day for mine and i let him know. He called up there and confirmed he had a failure to appear and he had to contact judge directly to get that taken care of as apparently he had become a fugitive because macon county court system is full of idiots.

It was a wonderful experience and there was a pretty lengthy thread on it last year at the time. I was guilty of no harvest record so no one to blame but myself, but the whole road block by a processor on the last weekend with multiple game wardens from multiple counties checking hunting license and harvest records from everyone who appeared to be a hunter seemed a little over the top to me as well.

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they give yer dad a written or verbal warning??


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I guess I just don't get it. Who gives a chit if they have a road block set up. legal or not. If you are not breaking the law, then you pass through the road block, show them your ID or whatever else they request within the law and you move on. Simple as that.

Other than delaying me from getting from point A to point B, I could care less if they have a road block. Maybe they will catch some of the low life than don't know how to follow the law and ignore the limits on what they are allowed to kill.

I would think if I were going to set up a road block for DUI, then I would go set up near a known honky tonk. If I were looking for folks who didn't tag their deer properly then I would likely set up near a processor or outside a Management Area.


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Originally Posted By: muzziehead
I guess I just don't get it. Who gives a chit if they have a road block set up. legal or not. If you are not breaking the law, then you pass through the road block, show them your ID or whatever else they request within the law and you move on. Simple as that.

Other than delaying me from getting from point A to point B, I could care less if they have a road block. Maybe they will catch some of the low life than don't know how to follow the law and ignore the limits on what they are allowed to kill.

I would think if I were going to set up a road block for DUI, then I would go set up near a known honky tonk. If I were looking for folks who didn't tag their deer properly then I would likely set up near a processor or outside a Management Area.


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ya'll don't care if a law enforcement agency(any) violates the law and/or your constitutional rights as long as YOU feel you have done nothing wrong and the bad guys might get caught??? Really??

Just where would YOU draw the line on a law enforcement agency breaking the law?? Walking into your house without any legal warrant to look for whatever they wanted?? It ain't no big deal, just a little inconvience to you. They won't find anything illegal so it ain't no big deal???


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Since when is a roadblock illegal? Heck, I wish they had more DUI roadblocks

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I wish they had more DUI roadblocks too, lefthorn -- but only if done legally and not with other law enforcement there asking for stupid chit like a hunting license when it's supposedly an "insurance" checkpoint.

WTF has insurance checkpoints anyway? That's nothing but a gussied-up cover story. If you're going to try to screw the public at least hand 'em a little dab of KY to apply before bending them over at a questionable roadblock.

x2 what Fred said.


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Originally Posted By: BhamFred
ya'll don't care if a law enforcement agency(any) violates the law and/or your constitutional rights as long as YOU feel you have done nothing wrong and the bad guys might get caught??? Really??

Just where would YOU draw the line on a law enforcement agency breaking the law?? Walking into your house without any legal warrant to look for whatever they wanted?? It ain't no big deal, just a little inconvience to you. They won't find anything illegal so it ain't no big deal???


Amen brother. There's a lot of trust of the government going on here for a bunch of so-called Liberty minded conservatives.

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