That is just plain stupid!! As I have said many times before, make the high fenced deer private property like a fenced in cow. Shoot your deer or cow anytime of year or day/night, remove the WFF from over them and let the USDA take it over.

The GW's are caught in the middle. But they ain't seen nothing yet...and neither have the hunters. I see next year the GW's pushed from the top to give tickets any way possible to drive home the message of Game Check. This will include questionable tactics such as the roadblocks. The GWs will be in a difficult position.

That was an awesome post! One of the best I've read anywhere.

Word I hear is the DCNR "spends" more resources ($) on monitoring high fence and breeding operations than they get in return. Resources that would be better served somewhere else. Guess who's paying for that, us? I guess that's why Chuck wants landowners, seniors and kids to start paying. Sure wouldn't want to cost his high fence pals any more $. High fence and deer breeding laws and regs must make it attractive to be in Alabama because you don't have to look far to find one. They are out of control. There is also a CAB member who is a high fence owner or part owner making regs for us all. That's BS! I agree they should be monitored for diseases and such that may effect the wild herd , beyond that screw them. Most of us don't give a hoot if Dr. Moneybags shoots one in the big pen in August or December.

Who owns the deer inside a high fence??

Does it really matter? Even if the state or the people still own them they have no access to them. That's like saying you own land but have no way to get to it.

Those big pen, high fence operations are probably going to be the start of CWD in Alabama. I hope the CAB is ready for an uprising if it happens.

Makes a HUGE difference. Example: High Fence Birmingham has a huge 3 yo buck. High Fence Montgomery offers to buy the deer. Can Birmingham sell a deer it doesn't own? If Montgomery moves it to their fence, would that not be stolen property?

Exactly. Chuck says the deer belong to everyone, yet when a high fence is installed they instantly become the property of the landowners. Can't have it both ways.

2Dogs, buck zones would be fine by me, but I doubt they'd make them equitable for all parts of the state.

I having a CAB member that's a high fence operator is a bad decision too. I was pretty vocal about it when it happened. His brother being elected to the state HOR basically paved the way for them getting to do whatever they wanted.

Yup, kinda scary . I hear daddy wants to see one of them Guv.

It could happen. If a womanizing wart burner can do it, I guess anyone can

Surely not

The DCNR committed restocking malpractice!

They should have restocked the State with deer from northwest Illinois, northern Missouri and southern Iowa!!

Dang idiots.

I am not so sure the high fence guys at least the ones I know care for Chuck, I thinks it's actually the opposite or least for the ones I have talked to who raise shooter bucks. They seem to have a low opinion of the current process and that their operations are governed by GW instead of treated like live stock. Someone correct me if I am wrong but I believe every wild deer must be removed from an enclosure once it's complete and the GW's actually have to inspect and permit the pen prior to being allowed to bring deer in. As far as CWD originating with deer farmers it is illegal to transport deer across state lines. All pen deer In the state of Alabama at this point should have been born here. I am sure some people brought deer in from other states but I think the risk now days would not be worth it when you could just AI and accomplish the same thing legally. With that being the case the only way to introduce CWD wouldn be through some natural transmission. I think CWD is the result of a prion similar to mad cow? I may be wrong about that but if so it unclear where it originates with some therioies being they come from meteors. As for deer farmers and who owns the deer I have heard some of the farmers say that if CWD ever showed up on their farm that every deer would be slaughtered and burned by DCNR. They are strictly regulated by the DCNR so even though the farmer owns the deer the DCNR still have a lot of say. Also deer farming to these guys or at least the ones I know are pretty competitive so the idea that they are a big click with Chuck may not be accurate.

According to the latest email sent out by them, it is clear that the rules they came up with are designed for giving tickets and generating revenue but not for healthy wildlife and resource management.

Bingo ^

Ain't that the truth.

ALL for Supplemental Feeding and high-scale Management......

BUT, it damn sure better be 100yds away and out of sight from any hunter wishing to reap the rewards of those same tactics.

LOL

Let's see, now. It's illegal to bring deer in from other states. Therefore, it can't happen.
We don't need these operations, in my opinion. (Any more than needing the CAB; and I'm not sure which is the most dangerous)

ya'll don't really want county deputies and municipal police enforcing game and fish laws. Seen it first hand over the years and it don't work. Most, with a few exceptions, of those officers won't get IN the woods. You really do want full time GWs enforcing those laws. You will want a real GW to answer yer call about poachers on your place.

an exception in the above statement, in my experience, would be Shelby Co Sheriffs office. When I had Jefferson and Shelby by myself for a year they were a great help to me in answering calls.