Ha! Thanks slippin... Just realized that I read his post wrong entirely. Dang night shift is already getting to me. Thanks!!

Well how's bout this scenario. Last week I took a cooler full of deer meat to the processor for a buddy of mine from Florida. He hunts Florida but we both use the same processor in Alabama. Well I knew I had to go right by the processor so I offered to take it. I ain't pulled the trigger on a deer since November of last season. How would that have turned out?

The only thing you should do is be polite and say yes sir and no sir and refuse to let them look in anything without a warrant unless they have a reasonable suspicion like a beer top or busted corn bag or blood or a joint in view. You've got time for them to apply for and execute a warrant, so just relax as long as it takes and don't get tore up. Still be polite and cordial and let them build a case if they want. Just DON'T get into ANY kind of conversation with them, even yukking it up with even traffic cops, as every question they ask is not being your buddy, they are trying to get you to admit wrongdoing. That's their job. Don't take it personally and DON'T answer ANY questions except handing them your drivers license and car registration and insurance and identifying yourself. If it gets deep, just call your lawyer and let him or her handle it. Don't be an internet hero by dragging out the pocket constitution, either.

10 years of hard labor.

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I'm asounded when I read threads like this and find so many hunters are OK with being stopped and searched just because you look like you might be a hunter.

I searched for a pic of someone giving the nazi salute to add to this post, but I decided it would be in poor taste.

X2. Giving up rights for "progress."

Welcome to chuckys world, he would have to be pushing the issue and telling the wardens to make the roadblocks.

Good warning.

Post it on Wazze app too if you have it.

That would be a blatantly illegal/unconstitutional search - UNLESS he gave consent.


Why someone would ever waive a Constitutional right is beyond comprehension. Never do that folks!

Sounds like a law suit waiting to happen

An example I thought of: I can't swear, but I'm told you are not supposed to clean fish BEFORE transporting them home (so they can be indentified by species for creel limit purposes if you are stopped). So just how is that supposed to happen if they don't search the cooler, for example. I'm as Libertarian as they come, but dadgum y'all are sounding more and more like full-on anarchists. I'm just not so rebellious I reckon... LEO asks to see in my cooler, absolutely sir! I have a bed cover on my truck, and when I hunt on the local military base they will flat out ask to see beneath it sometimes (although you are pre-warned that they do random searches). Heck, they'll make you get out and then they'll look all over your truck--under the seats, hood, undercarriage, glove box, etc. It is shotgun only out there, and if they ever find one single rifle cartridge you are banned for life, no discussion. So if you hunt on a club sometimes and use a rifle, you better clean that crap out before you go out there! Is that stupid?...as heck!!!! But it's the law.

I wholeheartedly fundamentally agree with rights and liberty, but I can't imagine myself saying it to a GW. I wouldn't want to look suspicious, nor that much like a jack@$$.

"I do not consent to any search or seizure. Am I under arrest or am I free to leave?"

"Thanks officers, have a nice day"

Ikillbux, there is a big difference in getting searched on a military base or WMA. You go on those places you are agreeing in advance to be searched. I see a big difference in being searched without any probable cause when you are just driving down the road like everyone else.

Anyone who has ever hunted with me knows that I am a fanatic about making sure all my paperwork is right when hunting or when traveling while hunting. On some of the multi-state turkey hunts I've been on getting it right for every state takes a lot of effort, but I make sure to get it right and I am not concerned in the least about ever getting a ticket.

Still, this profiling of hunters is something I find concerning. When something like this gets started, government doesn't have a good record of ever reversing it; it usually just gets worse. If you are truly a libertarian, I'd urge you to think about it some more. Do you really see no problem with searching vehicles on a public road with no probable cause? What about your house? Is it OK with you if LEO come in once a week just to have a look around? My view is that the 4th amendment either exists or it doesn't.

That was the tactic used by a young man I know whose father just happened to be a police officer. Anyway, the officer that stopped the young man wanted him to stick around so he could bring in a K-9 unit. The young man repeatedly said he did not consent to searches and asked if he was under arrest or free to go? He ended up leaving since he was not under arrest.

His father had instructed him that NOTHING GOOD could ever come from a search, so never consent to searches, whether you have anything to hide or not.

You and I fully agree about all of that, and I know it looks like I'm trying to argue and contradict myself, but my point is just more that I think we're making some gymnastic leaps here. I think it's hyperbole to begin with that they're profiling hunters, just really being stretched. The report of roadblocks is just that--a report of a normal police roadblock, and then we're just running with it from there. Nobody who has commented on this post has actually been there. Here is a transcript of a text message between me and a game warden I am close personal friends with:
Me: I ask him about roadblocks and profiling hunters and searching vehicles, etc.
Him: I'm not aware of anything like that. They CAN though if looking for illegal activity. Seldom do, but can.

Obviously you haven't been keeping up with the roadblock threads dating back to last season. Also, claims of 1 GW stopping someone because he was pulling a 4 wheeler down the highway. No other reason.

Others on here have claimed to go through these roadblocks.

Could y'all imagine Rusty M or Tyson running around on today's vague set of "laws"?

I personally know someone who went through this roadblock. It's not a normal roadblock. It was one police officer and 3 GW's. They asked for driver's license, hunting license, and then proceeded to look in the cooler. What "normal" road block checks hunting license and a cooler?

I get the sense that some people do not think this is actually happening....